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Old 12-17-2007, 01:44 AM
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Theres is a difference from effort and pointless boring hours of grinding.
GK was supostue be grind-free.

You dont care because you already met the requirements.
if there was something to soot for... it wouldn't be pointless...
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Old 12-28-2007, 01:58 AM
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Those Stats work. Although it still makes it a high power item. With +5 after its EAd, that will boost up to 18 and including the +1 Str it will still be over powered. But lowing some stats will balance it out. Maybe put -dex or con on it.
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Old 12-28-2007, 10:17 PM
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good idea -2 con =O
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Old 12-28-2007, 11:07 PM
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good idea -2 con =O
I think -2 con is fair as well :O

Are we getting anywhere with this?
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Old 12-29-2007, 01:14 AM
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I think -2 con is fair as well :O

Are we getting anywhere with this?
Yes, I think we can rest easy with those stats.
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Old 12-29-2007, 01:41 AM
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Yes, I think we can rest easy with those stats.
That's what I thought the first time, when I started the poll :[
Oh well... I won't let this rest. It'll be a long struggle to get the Ogma Bracer's up.

And I'm sick of everyone saying "no" in the thread rather than trying to help. Like I said before, if the bracers had very weak stats like "speed+1" only, there'd obviously be no argumet to release them. So "don't release them at all" is just plain stupid.

Bjorn at least had an understandable reason for not releasing them which was something along the lines of "if the stats are lowered, everyone will complain. you cant make everyone happy".
And he's right, you can't make everyone happy. So we need to find the best fair area to release them. I think the most imporant thing is for Bjorn to agree on the stats, or he'll never allow them to be released.
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Old 12-29-2007, 02:07 AM
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If it was the relic of their God they would not be complaining.

Anyway, with the new stats (along with the -2 con) I don't see how anyone can argue. It's balanced out pretty well now and it's a major improvment on the orignal bracers.
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Old 12-29-2007, 02:14 AM
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-2 Con is alright. Did somebody actually say these would be released if everyone came to an agreement or something? If not. I don't care.
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Old 12-29-2007, 06:36 AM
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You may have the stats, but finding a willing staff member who has the self motivation to do such a minor change is far-beyond findable with our current development team.
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Old 12-29-2007, 08:45 AM
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You may have the stats, but finding a willing staff member who has the self motivation to do such a minor change is far-beyond findable with our current development team.
That's why we have to take it one step at a time.
Bjorn's stated concern was that noone will be happy.

If we can't agree on stats among ourselves, there's no point in even asking him to get this done.

If we can show him that we've debated, discussed, and concluded, as active players who know what's fair in the game, on some acceptable stats, then maybe he'll consider getting this done.

Also, there's nowhere near a guarantee that even if he does put Ogma bracers up, he'll use the stats we say. He'll change them however he wants if he doesn't think those stats are appropriate.
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