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Originally Posted by -Ramirez-
That may be true for you. The people were part of it, but how significant a part is dependent on the person you're talking to. Just because you see them as the dominant factor in what made the server great doesn't mean that has to be the case for everyone else.
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That statement applies to more people than just me, whether anyone else wants to take off their nostalgia goggles and admit it is up to them. The problem here is more than HD and default movement. This problem is Graal-wide. If all the people who loved 'classic'-type servers because of HD and movement, why is UN struggling right now?
Most people just don't enjoy playing Graal period. And it has nothing to do with HD, it has to do with content and enjoyability. No one is offering anything new and it's pretty stagnant development-wise across the board. Granted, some people really dislike the HD on Classic, so they're not going to enjoy any content that it produces because of their bias towards the system, justified or not.
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It's kind of pathetic to see development go in random directions at all times regardless of who's playing. You're not offering a magical solution, sorry.
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You're right. It's rough to watch an administration go in a million different directions at once and accomplish nothing. But, I'd say it's just about as pathetic to see people cry about the lack of content and offer nothing more than, "Bring back old levels!" and "This HD sucks! Bring back the old one!". That is what this is all resorted to and it's going to continue being a stalemate until both sides realize that there is a certain amount of give and take that needs to happen.
For me personally, I'm willing to adapt to the HD and movement if the administration is willing to put out new content and make an attempt at listening to players requests (the feasible ones at least).
But hey, what do I know? It seems like the way you guys have been handling this has worked so well...
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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva
What people liked was not exclusive to one thing or the other. When I used to play many people left and came, so the community was always changing. Appeal to a server is usually always a combination of this and that, here and there. Sometimes one provides the hook and the other provides the catch. It's not as simple as, "community = win!".
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But the fact remains that there was a community there. And you can not deny that a server with a higher populous is not attractive to old and new players alike. I did not say that the end all comes and goes with the community, but it plays a huge part in why I played Classic after other servers started appearing and is what keeps me coming back to Graal even today. I think it's fair to say that I'm not the only one who feels this way. But by no means am I calling the community the end all. I'm simply stating that people who use the HD as their main reason why Classic is not 'Classic' is just wrong, and fixing the HD will not fix Classic.
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If people aren't playing, it's for a reason, no? Maybe it's because they're unhappy with the server, so why should they play?
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I agree. Classic is stagnant, development is at a crawl - at best, and there isn't a lot to offer in terms of game play. However, can you really expect management to listen to players who don't frequent their server? I'd be interested to see how many people would actually play on Classic if the HD was default. My guess is that it wouldn't make much of a difference as Classic's problems extend far beyond the HD and movement issues.