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Old 03-07-2012, 06:02 AM
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Is it a permission thing or are the limitations hard-coded into the server? I imagine you could do the following without regard for "Managements" opinion and probably get away with it. It's not like they're logging into the server and checking.

1. Scripted Limitations could be completely removed.
2. You could 'hack' up the shop and change the items for sale, except the prices or flat out disable it.
3. Weapon re-balancing would be feasible as well.
4. Old worlds could be re-instated.

I can see how Zone being converted to a "minigame" could completely destroy your development drive to put work into the server though.

I think you would have at least a year before they would actually have iZone ready enough to take over the PC version.
Unfortunately, without authorization from Stefan, the restrictions will most likely be replaced, defeating the purpose of removing them in the first place.

It has already been half a year since Stefan's intentions were announced to me. :/
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Old 03-07-2012, 03:35 PM
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Unfortunately, without authorization from Stefan, the restrictions will most likely be replaced, defeating the purpose of removing them in the first place.

It has already been half a year since Stefan's intentions were announced to me. :/
I've attempted asking stefan if he's still going to remove zone and he aint replying so.
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Old 03-08-2012, 12:23 PM
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Just do whatever you want to do to Zone, It's dead. Just make a complete backup.. If the changes aren't accepted you can just reverse it?
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Old 03-08-2012, 07:17 PM
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Just do whatever you want to do to Zone, It's dead. Just make a complete backup.. If the changes aren't accepted you can just reverse it?
We tried getting backups from several years ago, but the PWAs refused to assist us. Thank you, globals, for representing the players.
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Old 03-08-2012, 07:28 PM
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We tried getting backups from several years ago, but the PWAs refused to assist us. Thank you, globals, for representing the players.
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Old 03-08-2012, 07:47 PM
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We tried getting backups from several years ago, but the PWAs refused to assist us. Thank you, globals, for representing the players.
Generally speaking, PWAs don't have jurisdiction over gold servers unless there is a PWA member who is actually a staff member on said gold server- and in that case s/he only has as much power as has been given to him/her on that server. There may be a few rare instances where I intervene on gold servers, but more realistically, we especially don't have any jurisdiction over content ownership/distribution of gold servers.
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Old 03-08-2012, 11:18 PM
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Generally speaking, PWAs don't have jurisdiction over gold servers unless there is a PWA member who is actually a staff member on said gold server- and in that case s/he only has as much power as has been given to him/her on that server. There may be a few rare instances where I intervene on gold servers, but more realistically, we especially don't have any jurisdiction over content ownership/distribution of gold servers.
Then that could have been brought to my attention at the time, not just a blatant refusal. Unfortunately, neither Stefan nor Unixmad are entirely enthusiastic about restoring Zone or removing the Gelat shop.
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Old 03-09-2012, 05:07 PM
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Wait tig are you able to get stefan to respond to my messages?..
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Old 03-09-2012, 11:04 PM
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Wait tig are you able to get stefan to respond to my messages?..
Whoa, Tench. He's the head of PWA, not a miracle worker.
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Old 03-10-2012, 12:24 AM
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Whoa, Tench. He's the head of PWA, not a miracle worker.
You think a miracle worker could do that?
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Old 03-10-2012, 03:07 PM
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You think a miracle worker could do that?
think we should make a thread somewhere that is called STEFAN LOOK HERE

then every post should be 'hi'
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Old 03-10-2012, 08:58 PM
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think we should make a thread somewhere that is called STEFAN LOOK HERE

then every post should be 'hi'
Stefan would find some way to miss it, even if the title was this big.
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Old 03-11-2012, 10:31 AM
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I'm watching these threads when there is something interesting, but I've already said how Zone will run. Currently the Zone iPhone server is in the works, and since it's much more advanced than the current Zone PC server it would make sense to also let PC players login to it sometime. The focus is on the iPhone server of course though. I've asked some former Zone staff if they would be interested to help but wasn't seeing a lot of interest yet, so currently we are working mainly with Era iPhone staff.
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Old 03-12-2012, 01:59 AM
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I'm watching these threads when there is something interesting, but I've already said how Zone will run. Currently the Zone iPhone server is in the works, and since it's much more advanced than the current Zone PC server it would make sense to also let PC players login to it sometime. The focus is on the iPhone server of course though. I've asked some former Zone staff if they would be interested to help but wasn't seeing a lot of interest yet, so currently we are working mainly with Era iPhone staff.
so what's the verdict if you're removing zone PC or not..? Seeing as we can actually make the Zone PC have more playercount, i did 2 things and i've seen people actually online and buying gelats.
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