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Default 29 78.38%
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Old 07-07-2009, 08:59 PM
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Custom or default

I think some wonders if the remade classic will have a custom or a default system. I think we deserve an answer before something gets started. We all know Storms position in this matter, but why should we have a custom system and barely any scripters who knows it?

Maybe a similair vote has been made before, so remove it if you wish=p
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Old 07-07-2009, 09:01 PM
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Custom is not bad if it is done right. Classic has never done it right, however.
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Old 07-07-2009, 09:18 PM
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Custom is not bad if it is done right. Classic has never done it right, however.
Agreed. Definitely a no on custom systems unless you can get them to behave exactly like the default ones. It won't feel like classic Graal unless it feels like classic Graal.
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Old 07-07-2009, 09:23 PM
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I am voting no a solid no.

Voting a "no, unless" gives them a foot in the door for a chance to give custom systems another run. Classic cannot survive another year while the scripters are tinkering away, trying to get it "just right".
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Old 07-07-2009, 09:53 PM
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I don't see the point in re scripting functionality that's already there.
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Old 07-07-2009, 10:05 PM
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I don't see the point in re scripting functionality that's already there.
Because a lot of the 'functionality' is actually not there... the default system is extremely limited in what is possible with it.
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Old 07-07-2009, 10:28 PM
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I will hold off my vote until someone experienced in scripting with both systems explains them out in a post, as well as the current situation on classic. I've seen bits and pieces but I'd like the full report in one place.
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Old 07-07-2009, 11:08 PM
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Custom systems are superior to default systems if they're made correctly and well documented.

The offside to Custom systems is that they take a while to redevelop. And Classic shouldn't have too much time to spare with other competing worlds being developed, as well as declining staff motivation.

I personally would like to see Default systems being used, but then again, it isn't my decision.
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Old 07-07-2009, 11:35 PM
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I like some of the custom systems, like nickname systems, that change color beyond the ap spectrum.(purple), some are unncessary
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Old 07-07-2009, 11:58 PM
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I voted custom, because custom system are generally more flexible and easy to edit, where as if you wanted to expand the movement system and it was default, there would be no way to improve it.

Scripting it encourages future expansion/improvement. However, it must be done to exactly replicate the classic movement system or else I retract my vote.
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Old 07-08-2009, 01:07 AM
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Yes, there are many different things you can do with custom systems. But then people get so caught up with making these systems and when they finally get to the gameplay part they either are burned out, or have no idea what to do next with them.

That time could be better well spent developing the actual gameplay, be it quests, jobs, and the systems they belong to. Perhaps as they develop they should only introduce the custom systems they actually need.
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Old 07-08-2009, 01:13 AM
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Meh, I don't think it takes that long to develop a system that mimicks default.
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Old 07-08-2009, 08:45 AM
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I voted custom, because custom system are generally more flexible and easy to edit, where as if you wanted to expand the movement system and it was default, there would be no way to improve it.

Scripting it encourages future expansion/improvement. However, it must be done to exactly replicate the classic movement system or else I retract my vote.
yes if people know that system and can script it, which is a problem on classic.
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Old 07-08-2009, 04:39 PM
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Default ftw.
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Old 07-08-2009, 08:04 PM
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Clone the source code of the default system so you can have the default system, but at the same time have full control of variables and all.
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