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Old 06-21-2005, 10:21 AM
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I have a question and since this thread below is closed I decided to make a new thread for peoples opinions.
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=49824

Not to mention any names, but recently I was involved with a server where one staff member deleted some contents of a server. I read the first page of the thread above and the last one, I didn't read the other pages because something this important should be on the front page.

Well anyways, what is the penalty of someone deleting parts of a server? I've known two people, one who got away with it and one who didn't.

I for one believe an investigation is needed. On one case where the person didn't get convicted there wasn't a full investigation; instead a higher global said it was legal for deleting parts of a server.

On the other case, there was an investigation but one what was done very poor; they asked staff members what happened even though none were online at the time and with that they decided to globally ban the individual without confronting him. When the individual did come forward and ask what happened he got two different replies from two global staff members.

So, what I'm asking is what do the PWA (?) or whoever do when someone deletes a server? And how come several people get away with deleting a server and so many do not?

Opinions please.

Note: I would've sent a PM but I speak for many when I say no-one knows exactly what happens.
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Old 06-21-2005, 04:33 PM
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Old 06-21-2005, 05:07 PM
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No one gets away with deleting a server o_O.
He isn't refering to the deletion of a whole server...note:

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Not to mention any names, but recently I was involved with a server where one staff member deleted some contents of a server.
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He isn't refering to the deletion of a whole server...note:

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So, what I'm asking is what do the PWA (?) or whoever do when someone deletes a server? And how come several people get away with deleting a server and so many do not?



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Delete a server = Global Bannable Offense
Why do some get away with it? = They don't
Delete content on server = Depends on whose it is and why they removed it
Why some can do it and others can't = Depends on the reasoning and the creator of the content
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Old 06-21-2005, 05:37 PM
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Delete a server = Global Bannable Offense
Why do some get away with it? = They don't
Delete content on server = Depends on whose it is and why they removed it
Why some can do it and others can't = Depends on the reasoning and the creator of the content
I want a clear answer on this question from the PWA/Stefan (in public), as I have heard different.
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I want a clear answer on this question from the PWA/Stefan (in public), as I have heard different.


You've already spoken to Stefan privately, so you should know this answer.
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Old 06-21-2005, 06:16 PM
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You've already spoken to Stefan privately, so you should know this answer.
No, I have not
Stefan will only give me one short answer, but will never discuss anything with me, and anyway, I want a public, clear answer/rule on this. I am tired of people skirting the rules, and people can just lie and say "Well, I removed this because it wasn't working right" or "I removed this because I made it, but I didn't like the way it worked", or "I removed this, because it was my personal script/level/GFX, and since I work here, I decided I dont want to use it" (even though the server is using it at the time) then quits the same day or soon after....that is skirting the rules, abusing a loophole in the rules. If this is acceptable, then I feel sorry for the PW's who hire staff, and I suggest that NO ONE be given rights to anything, especially NC, because staff would have the right to quickly remove content, make up a story, then quit...leaving the PW in a bind.

In my opinion, after content is uploaded and in use on a PW, especially when Staff made the content for the server, then the Manager should make the decision as to whether or not the content is to be deleted for whatever reason. If the Manager does not agree, then the content should be left on the server...this would make it so staff cannot remove stuff because they are quitting, and make up reasons in doing so, because the Manager must approve of it first.
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You've already spoken to Stefan privately, so you should know this answer.
What is said in private could be different in public.
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If people backed up everything every couple of days, things like this would be a minor problem.
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If people backed up everything every couple of days, things like this would be a minor problem.
That isn't the point...
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Delete content on server = Depends on whose it is and why they removed it
Why some can do it and others can't = Depends on the reasoning and the creator of the content
Well, you recently deleted contents of a server and you got away with it. However, when I deleted some content on a server what were illegal I got globally banned.

Well, I didn't get asked why I'd done it, instead I got globally banned. Funny, I guess you just have to know people in high places
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No one gets away with deleting a server o_O.
Lol, you're a bit optimistic.
I beg to differ.
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Well, you recently deleted contents of a server and you got away with it. However, when I deleted some content on a server what were illegal I got globally banned.

Well, I didn't get asked why I'd done it, instead I got globally banned. Funny, I guess you just have to know people in high places


Really? What content did I remove that is not on NP right now? I gave jady back ups to the GWI and she uploaded it. That's all I removed besides my own personal npc's which no one used besides myself.
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Well, you recently deleted contents of a server and you got away with it. However, when I deleted some content on a server what were illegal I got globally banned.

Well, I didn't get asked why I'd done it, instead I got globally banned. Funny, I guess you just have to know people in high places
lol.

Sorry about that, ol' buddy.
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