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Old 10-01-2010, 12:24 AM
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Dithered water? GG
Okay gg how.. you've given one example and even with that I gauruntee you if not myself.. someone else could easily do a styled dither to make a good looking water.. so point still not taken.
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Old 10-01-2010, 12:36 AM
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Okay gg how.. you've given one example and even with that I gauruntee you if not myself.. someone else could easily do a styled dither to make a good looking water.. so point still not taken.
The point is it does look worse than the original, which many of the graphics do. I'm not here to prove anything to you, and I'm not all that interested in going through backups to post comparisons. The staff can either take what I said or ignore it, but they will be stupid to mix styles like that and expect it to present itself as a grand revival. It might do to someone with no idea of standards, someone who is used to seeing crap content (it did to me when I first played on it) but after a while it rubs off.
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Old 10-01-2010, 12:46 AM
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The point is it does look worse than the original, which many of the graphics do. I'm not here to prove anything to you, and I'm not all that interested in going through backups to post comparisons. The staff can either take what I said or ignore it, but they will be stupid to mix styles like that and expect it to present itself as a grand revival. It might do to someone with no idea of standards, someone who is used to seeing crap content (it did to me when I first played on it) but after a while it rubs off.
Well I do understand where you're coming from and I also know what you are talking about in reference to alot of the images not being up to par.. but I personally thought as far as the bodies looked and their relation to graal they were rather amazing..
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Old 10-02-2010, 07:52 AM
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Once you get it in working condition, i say you release as is, and every month push out an update whether it be small or big just to let us know things have not came to a halt
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Old 10-02-2010, 08:42 AM
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Throughout the years I have witnessed many, many posts like this. Some how I feel optimistic about this one It is practical.

Karsh and I were the main gani staff for 2k1 for quite a while. I can tell you from my experience that the "2k1" bodies are a lot easier to work with than the "Classic" alternative, and they provide a platform with more capacity to be creative. I will gladly make such contributions again when I have the time after graduating (from University) in Jan-April!

It would be nice to see the old Kingdoms if the backup had those levels.

I strongly recommend the following:

1) Server has to be free.
2) Needs a manager with an understanding of economics.
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Old 10-02-2010, 08:59 AM
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Throughout the years I have witnessed many, many posts like this. Some how I feel optimistic about this one It is practical.

Karsh and I were the main gani staff for 2k1 for quite a while. I can tell you from my experience that the "2k1" bodies are a lot easier to work with than the "Classic" alternative, and they provide a platform with more capacity to be creative. I will gladly make such contributions again when I have the time after graduating (from University) in Jan-April!

It would be nice to see the old Kingdoms if the backup had those levels.

I strongly recommend the following:

1) Server has to be free.
2) Needs a manager with an understanding of economics.
I don't see 2k1 becoming Gold again. Microtransactions however..

I think Skyld will probably remain Manager of 2k1, it's his call in the end.
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Old 10-05-2010, 04:13 PM
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only reason I would want old bodies is the health system. Bomys could fight humans in the old health system. With the new one, humans were able to damage us when we were in in our shell after getting knocked back when being struck. I don't see why you would need to 'fix' anything with bomys in the old health system. I could easily own 95% of humans on the server as a bomy.
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Old 10-05-2010, 04:14 PM
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Old 10-05-2010, 06:20 PM
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I am confused, is the plan to recreate a version of 5-7 year old version of the server? Didn't they try this a few times and it fail? I am confused on what changed over the years (especially since you're not using any of Konidas' stuff).
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Old 10-05-2010, 08:22 PM
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Do you still plan on using these bodies?
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Old 10-05-2010, 09:19 PM
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the bodies they are talking about are the G2K2/Graal Kingdoms look-a-likes. I get the impression that they're not using any of Konidas work.
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I am confused, is the plan to recreate a version of 5-7 year old version of the server? Didn't they try this a few times and it fail? I am confused on what changed over the years (especially since you're not using any of Konidas' stuff).
I guess the overall goal everyone seems to want is would be to bring back 2k1, and turn it what it might be like today, so essentially 2k11. How we will approach this is still uncertain, which is why we are looking for input. We're going to do what we can with 2k1, but with reservation in mind. We don't want to spend our time doing extremely daunting tasks if we have room for doubt that our efforts would be wasted.

As far as Konidias' bodies go, no we don't plan to use those. The system that was left on the server was in an extremely complex and unfinished state, and it was pretty painful backing all that up as well. The system itself I think accounted for about 150-200 directories in the backup, lol.
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Old 10-05-2010, 09:34 PM
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Well, it looks like a doomed project from where I stand. You don't have a plan outside of "convert a decade old server and do... something". If you want to revive the server, you're going to do what Konidas was in the process of doing; a complete overhaul of the server. He knew that a simple conversion wasn't going to do a damn thing, and you should know better too.
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Old 10-06-2010, 09:18 PM
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First of all, gratulations for the already achieved goals and commited work

Yet I wonder:
I renember that there was a G2k1 rework some years ago - that failed terribly. First it had a great response, but the playercount decreased rapidly.

So... what will you offer to make it attractive as an up to date playerworld, attracting players (an object that is becoming less and less frequent) - or will it just be a fully functional memorial ground for former g2k1 players, that can be used to idle by them?

Konidias attempt was interesting, sadly it took off in an too different direction. Do you really think that you can "revive" a playerworld?
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Old 10-07-2010, 12:52 AM
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use the bodies koni made.

most of the people dont even know how they work. its really cool. if you post some shots that would prob get the majority to agree with them.

Rufus you need to realize this is Graal and it is not going to be perfect.
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