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Old 07-06-2012, 02:22 AM
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I think this is something that should be emailed to him, this is totally off-topic.
Well its horrible when the PWAs says they will forward it to him and when Stefan ignores most of the emails and PMs. We already did several times x-x
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Old 07-06-2012, 02:28 AM
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Well its horrible when the PWAs says they will forward it to him and when Stefan ignores most of the emails and PMs. We already did several times x-x
It's hard enough to get a single response from Stefan on the forums (at least repsonses that we want to hear.) We should just try and avoid jumping on him with demands that are irrelevant to the thread is all I'm saying.
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Old 07-06-2012, 07:48 AM
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Zone is actually an interesting example of what limiting the player does. Originally trial accounts weren't saved but could still partake in guild activities and had 100HP. Displeased with this, they later changed it so trials started with 80HP and could no longer join guilds. Zone began to lose some playercount over this and much of its guild activity died off. The moment v5 came out, I declared Zone "RIP" and was quickly proven correct. Zone is such a good server, but it is ruined by imbalances caused by the cash shop and the restrictive limitations that were stacked onto players over the years. I hope iZone revives interest in the server.
You forgot about terrible managers.

I was there.... it was like watching a train wreck go into a nuclear power plant with explosives.
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Old 07-06-2012, 07:57 AM
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You forgot about terrible managers.
QFT. He has a point here Cron
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Old 07-06-2012, 04:12 PM
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I was there.... it was like watching a train wreck go into a nuclear power plant with explosives.
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QFT. He has a point here Cron
Zone's managers weren't ace (no names) but they were heavily restricted on what they could and couldn't do by Stefan. You can't blame them.
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Old 07-06-2012, 05:24 PM
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I don't have the best memory of Zone, but didn't things start going downhill once Supernanny started managing?
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Old 07-06-2012, 06:23 PM
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I don't have the best memory of Zone, but didn't things start going downhill once Supernanny started managing?
Who is Supernanny
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Old 07-06-2012, 06:27 PM
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The observer mode is needed right now to justify the playerworld gold subscription since we cannot check each day if the servers are correctly scripted or so and prices are fair. So there needs to be a "hard" limit somewhere (level cap on Zodiac) or observer mode.
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I still stand by the argument that observer mode is much more than a restriction, and is indirectly having a highly detrimental affect on the ability for trial's to properly experience the game and therefore want to upgrade.
To further iterate my point, you simply cannot compare a limitation which allows trials to experience the game but at a disadvantage, with something which causes so much bugs and/or disruption that staff have no choice but to prevent trials from participating with events, trials automatically lose if entering observer mode while sparring or playing something like Classic's trading card game (which lasts long enough for it to be hard to avoid), or are unable to progress within a quest due to a bug directly caused by observer mode.

I agree that obtaining a higher playercount is not as simple an issue as just lowering the price by itself, but observer mode is a game killer, it's like saying "upgrade to not have a terrible experience" or a joke I used to say as a kid "pay me £5 and I won't beat you up".

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At some point we can transform all servers to free-to-play mode but we don't have the tools in-place right now (built-in customization shop and such stuff).
While it is good to know you have this intention, server staff are not asking you to transform these servers yourself, they are asking you to help them transform their servers themself. For Classic we have our own plans that I have emailed to you for how we can accomplish a sustainable free to play environment, and so I'd like to know what level of possibility exists for it to go ahead, or what (if any) changes would be needed.
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Old 07-06-2012, 07:42 PM
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At some point you're going to have to learn how to stop *****ing, because believe it or not there's other people who have similar problems to you and are able to keep their mouths shut for longer than 3 days at a time.
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Old 07-06-2012, 07:48 PM
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At some point you're going to have to learn how to stop *****ing, because believe it or not there's other people who have similar problems to you and are able to keep their mouths shut for longer than 3 days at a time.
Could someone ban this idiot?
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Old 07-06-2012, 07:51 PM
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At some point you're going to have to learn how to stop *****ing, because believe it or not there's other people who have similar problems to you and are able to keep their mouths shut for longer than 3 days at a time.
So at what point have I insinuated that I am the only person frustrated with the lack of support?
Also I had kept my mouth shut as you put it for a very long amount of time, longer than many developers would even remain active for, and have been developing a server since before you even began playing Graal.
I think you're bark... hissing up the wrong tree here.

I would also suggest learning the difference between begging/sympathy seeking and persuasive arguments.
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Old 07-06-2012, 08:05 PM
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So at what point have I insinuated that I am the only person frustrated with the lack of support?
Also I had kept my mouth shut as you put it for a very long amount of time, longer than many developers would even remain active for, and have been developing a server since before you even began playing Graal.
I think you're bark... hissing up the wrong tree here.

I would also suggest learning the difference between begging/sympathy seeking and persuasive arguments.
I don't know, but you do post an awful lot about the same issue and it isn't going to get you anywhere, and you're making yourself look like a fool.
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Old 07-06-2012, 08:20 PM
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I don't know, but you do post an awful lot about the same issue and it isn't going to get you anywhere, and you're making yourself look like a fool.
But it actually has finally gone on to get some form of response, which while not a very encouraging one, is pretty much what one of the main problems was in the first place.

I couldn't care less how it affects my "reputation". I've already made a lot of sacrifices to it for the sake of long term progress, though I don't think it appears as foolish as randomly snapping at someone with a common goal, offering no form of constructive input, and making out that you're some kind of victim.
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Old 07-06-2012, 08:53 PM
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I don't know, but you do post an awful lot about the same issue and it isn't going to get you anywhere, and you're making yourself look like a fool.
The only one that's made himself look like a fool in this thread is you, and you're doing a mighty fine job at it right now.
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Old 07-06-2012, 09:00 PM
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I don't know, but you do post an awful lot about the same issue and it isn't going to get you anywhere, and you're making yourself look like a fool.
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