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Old 09-27-2011, 01:18 PM
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Apart from the height problem that looks so much better.

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Old 09-27-2011, 05:21 PM
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I think (although this isn't even the original point of the topic..) most of you are missing the point.

Tim is doing SOMETHING within his capabilities. Why would there ever be anything wrong with that?

Yes, gun updates and fancy new content would just be ****ing swell, I agree. But if you have a wayward graphics artist that's willing to sit down and put out some work to bring a fresh take to an old tileset..what's wrong with having them do that, too?

Plus, if I remember correctly, guns aren't being changed anymore as per alfonso's orders.
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Old 09-27-2011, 07:23 PM
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Argument should have stopped here really, because Dusty can do better and has.
My quarrel was never with him. I tip my hat to anyone who can utilize proper grammar regularly, and in this case, use logic in an argument.

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"Extremely" limited space to work with? Tilesets? Are you living under a rock? Geez. Just because a server works even though it looks like a steaming pile of crap doesn't mean you shouldn't work on improving the graphics.
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Graphics could be worked over without changing levels, as it was shown above, and would not impede on the progress of the rest of the server. Your approach to development seems to be like a lot of people who don't really know how to approach it: "we have BIG PROBLEMS thus we can never do SMALL STUFF on the side."
Did I not say there was room for improvement? Pretty f*cking sure I did. Wait, let me s-
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There are SOME things that could be improved - the only thing that springs to mind right now is some of the older guns, but to suggest some sort of overhaul is completely ridiculous.
oh, right! There it is!

Maybe it's just my prehistoric, old guard marine corps mindset, but I think you can make a pretty damn fine-looking server with what Era currently has. Of course graphics can be improved - to a degree. I referenced Graal3D as an attempt to improve drastically on our graphics - it never even got off the ground. Why, I'm not sure, but one way to think is because what we have works.

You guys are acting like we have f*cking picket lines on the server as if the whole game looks like a steaming pile of crap. We aren't on Runescape, come on - I'm with Crono, this has gone SO FAR past any sort of relevance to what I posted to begin with. To summarize my position in this trainwreck of a thread, I'm only saying that I think people seem to be asking for too much. If what was requested of the server were more definitively quantified, then we could really get into the meat and potatoes of this. Since my opinion isn't shared, and my rep's taking a hit (twice, actually, I lolled irl), I'll kindly shut the f*ck up.

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So people criticize a server and you jump to insulting them? You take things way too personally and just seem like some jerk who would rather insult people than listen to useful advice.
Listen man, I've got some pretty thick skin beat into me, I mistake other people for having it too - I call people a**holes about as much as Denis Leary in Rescue Me. I certainly don't like your attitude, or your position, but you have my respect - don't get it twisted.
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Old 09-27-2011, 07:27 PM
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I referenced Graal3D as an attempt to improve drastically on our graphics
It wasn't.
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@Tim: Looks definitely better, if you take the time to convert it and fix the errors, I see no reason why NOT to use it.
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Old 09-27-2011, 11:18 PM
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oh, right! There it is!
Where you say there was room for improvement had no correlation to where I said there was room for improvements -- graphics.
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Maybe it's just my prehistoric, old guard marine corps mindset, but I think you can make a pretty damn fine-looking server with what Era currently has. Of course graphics can be improved - to a degree. I referenced Graal3D as an attempt to improve drastically on our graphics - it never even got off the ground. Why, I'm not sure, but one way to think is because what we have works.
The graphics can be improved to a vast degree. Also, Graal3D was not an improvement of graphics. It was simply 3D. 3D does not automatically mean better graphics, so that was a horrible example. Graal3D was also widely considered to be pretty horrible looking as well.

The fact that you consider 3D graphics to be automatically superior to 2D graphics shows how little you understand on the subject.

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Listen man, I've got some pretty thick skin beat into me, I mistake other people for having it too - I call people a**holes about as much as Denis Leary in Rescue Me. I certainly don't like your attitude, or your position, but you have my respect - don't get it twisted.
I never said I was offended, but it simply showed how much thought you put into your arguments, or lack thereof, that they even had to make their way into your posts.


Anyways, I'm not saying that priorities need to take a hit. That's dumb. But there are a reason there are such things as priorities, and priorities also don't need to work in a linear way. Anyone who has developed knows this. You can work on larger things, and smaller things at the same time. In fact, it's probably for the better. Usually the things that really need to be fixed are the ones that are the most time-consuming, and honestly, not the most fun. Working on those problems all the time will burn a developer out, make them lose interest. Spending a little time on some other things that eventually will need to be fixed is a good way to be productive and not burn out your motivation on the larger things that most desperately need to be done.

I pity any developer that doesn't indulge himself in little side projects when they're bored, or have run into a wall with the bigger projects.
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Old 09-28-2011, 02:08 AM
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Where you say there was room for improvement had no correlation to where I said there was room for improvements -- graphics.

The graphics can be improved to a vast degree. Also, Graal3D was not an improvement of graphics. It was simply 3D. 3D does not automatically mean better graphics, so that was a horrible example. Graal3D was also widely considered to be pretty horrible looking as well.

The fact that you consider 3D graphics to be automatically superior to 2D graphics shows how little you understand on the subject.



I never said I was offended, but it simply showed how much thought you put into your arguments, or lack thereof, that they even had to make their way into your posts.


Anyways, I'm not saying that priorities need to take a hit. That's dumb. But there are a reason there are such things as priorities, and priorities also don't need to work in a linear way. Anyone who has developed knows this. You can work on larger things, and smaller things at the same time. In fact, it's probably for the better. Usually the things that really need to be fixed are the ones that are the most time-consuming, and honestly, not the most fun. Working on those problems all the time will burn a developer out, make them lose interest. Spending a little time on some other things that eventually will need to be fixed is a good way to be productive and not burn out your motivation on the larger things that most desperately need to be done.

I pity any developer that doesn't indulge himself in little side projects when they're bored, or have run into a wall with the bigger projects.
I agree with you wholeheartedly on your approach on developing. I LATed here and there for Val and Era, but I've never claimed it on my resume, as it were.

Where did I imply improvement on anything other than graphics? We've been talking about the tileset, and graphics in general, right? I didn't know I deviated from that.

As far as the 3D response, don't imply that I'm stupid. Obviously FF7 smokes Super Mario 64. I picked a bad example, I guess, but I know full goddamn well how development works, I managed my team for the better part of a year, and I've received nothing but praise concerning my reign.

I put plenty of thought into everything I've said - the fact is you clearly have more experience than me, and I can only generalize. Despite what people who've known me for a good bit may think, I'm not afraid to admit when I'm wrong or to shut up when I've been shown my place. Haven't I already bowed out of this whole thing?
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Old 09-28-2011, 02:54 AM
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@Tim: Looks definitely better, if you take the time to convert it and fix the errors, I see no reason why NOT to use it.
I already did all that last night, do you see more errors or something?


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@Tim looks good reminds me of like old aeon tileset ;D
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