Is buying an apple for 20k legal? - Page 3

Zurkiba · #81 01-15-2002, 06:16 AM

If he got his money back from a scam... I want ALL my money back from a scam... and I mean ALL of it.

Jap · #82 01-15-2002, 06:17 AM

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Originally posted by Psyker

i wasn't referring to you.

I know, I was saying he got HIS money back, not you got yours.

Androk2k1 · #83 01-15-2002, 06:20 AM

Scaming is wrong! Someone worked hard for his money and you take it from him! That jsut should feel wrong.
Though i do agree that that's persons name to buy an items which was sold for hell of a price...

I thought Jap was better then to scam... guess he's not...

Jap · #84 01-15-2002, 06:21 AM

Loriel said to me that :
"On the rules page, there is no rule saying that admins may not
take 20000 gralat from you for fun. So?"

So, is there a way to get him fired for this wrong doing of taking 20k for fun from me? Then having more fun and giving 20k to AcidIce. And since it was legal and what he said above, he was implying that he took from me 20k for fun, and gave 20k to AcidIce for fun. Is it legal or allowed to give 20k to someone? I dont know, maybe another admin, or someone higher than Loriel doesnt liek his actions, and should fire him. He may give someone else 20k for "fun".

Zurkiba · #85 01-15-2002, 06:21 AM

Scamming isn't wrong... it's for smart people tricking the dumb people.

Jap · #86 01-15-2002, 06:24 AM

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Originally posted by Androk2k1
Scaming is wrong! Someone worked hard for his money and you take it from him! That jsut should feel wrong.
Though i do agree that that's persons name to buy an items which was sold for hell of a price...

I thought Jap was better then to scam... guess he's not...

Liek I had said TWICE before, if you work VERY hard for your money, then why risk buying an unknown priced apple? Say I value my REAL money very much, I dont keep it out for friends to steal. I keep it away, hidden. I dont keep it where it is vonerable from being taken.

Androk2k1 · #87 01-15-2002, 06:26 AM

You use human instincts to take what they can and use thm to steal... that low...

You were one of those guys I actually thought were cool... Now I don't... but well i guess none cares....

Torankusu · #88 01-15-2002, 06:28 AM

give me the 20,000 gralats and i will see sure that it is taken care of.

Torankusu · #89 01-15-2002, 06:29 AM

Whose money was it? That Jap recieved...

Jap · #90 01-15-2002, 06:30 AM

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Originally posted by AlkarenHyralt
I've been informed I am a pathetic ***** and deserve to die. oyey, fun.

I dont know why, the only thing I disagreed with you with is that you think its illegal with more money value. I mean you agreed that with those elements of an apple buy is legal with low value scam. Half right, half is .5, .5 rounds up to 1, 1 is a whole, ALRIGHT!

Jap · #91 01-15-2002, 06:31 AM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
Whose money was it? That Jap recieved...

"AcidIce" before he bought an apple for 20k. Then it was was mine, then back to him.

Torankusu · #92 01-15-2002, 06:31 AM

If he didn't have a banner that said "FREE APPLES" then it's not illegal. Who took the money away?

Torankusu · #93 01-15-2002, 06:32 AM

Half of it wasn't even his. Why in the hell did Loriel give him the house?

Jap · #94 01-15-2002, 06:34 AM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
If he didn't have a banner that said "FREE APPLES" then it's not illegal. Who took the money away?

Who else? LORIEL!!!

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ · #95 01-15-2002, 06:47 AM

You have to be the stupidest ***** to work that long to lose it to buy an apple. Well, it better have been the best damn apple he ever tasted

AlkarenHyralt · #96 01-15-2002, 06:48 AM

Why do people think this has something to do with me? This whole thing is none of my business. It's between Jap and Loriel. I was not there, and I was not present for all of this. So please folks, leave me out of this.

Cyber-X · #97 01-15-2002, 06:48 AM

If the situation was like Jap said... He owns that 20.000g

Jap · #98 01-15-2002, 06:49 AM

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Originally posted by AlkarenHyralt
Why do people think this has something to do with me? This whole thing is none of my business. It's between Jap and Loriel. I was not there, and I was not present for all of this. So please folks, leave me out of this.

You are invlovled by presenting the rules to Loriel. And he told me to ask you if i was legal or illegal, so he obivously cares about your opinion.

DeathChill · #99 01-15-2002, 06:51 AM

Hi I'm about to be different!
He worked for the 20k which is A LOT of money so it's only fair it's given back :/
But whatever

Torankusu · #**100** 01-15-2002, 06:52 AM

Well,
Police (Chief) is one of the most trusted admins, for some reason (although most of them have been demoted because of corruption, or whatever). You actually do have a say in what is legal or not. If you weren't there, then present the rules anyway.

Jap · #**101** 01-15-2002, 06:56 AM

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Originally posted by DeathChill
Hi I'm about to be different!
He worked for the 20k which is A LOT of money so it's only fair it's given back :/
But whatever

So you don't agree with how he should have walked away if it meant so much to him? Or, agree with the rules, or wait to see the price and ten say buy item 1?

AlkarenHyralt · #**102** 01-15-2002, 07:01 AM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
Well,
Police (Chief) is one of the most trusted admins, for some reason (although most of them have been demoted because of corruption, or whatever). You actually do have a say in what is legal or not. If you weren't there, then present the rules anyway.

I report to Loriel though you see. You usally don't tell your boss what to do, you know?

Jap · #**103** 01-15-2002, 07:02 AM

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Originally posted by AlkarenHyralt

I report to Loriel though you see. You usally don't tell your boss what to do, you know?

You tell your boss what is legal to you. Which is what we follow by.

Torankusu · #**104** 01-15-2002, 07:05 AM

If you do not attempt to do it then nothing that you feel is just will get done. You are supposed to be upholding justice and whatnot, which means you have an opinion that actually matters 'legal-wise' on graal.

DeathChill · #**105** 01-15-2002, 07:05 AM

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Originally posted by Jap

So you don't agree with how he should have walked away if it meant so much to him? Or, agree with the rules, or wait to see the price and ten say buy item 1?

No I don't agree with anything you said.If he waited and it was 0 it obviously would have been gone..I could care less about gralats hence why I have only 1 so it would never really matter to me.

View GraalOnline Profile · #**106** 01-15-2002, 07:05 AM

smooth

TrueHeaT · #**107** 01-15-2002, 07:06 AM

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Originally posted by DeathChill

No I don't agree with anything you said.If he waited and it was 0 it obviously would have been gone..I could care less about gralats hence why I have only 1 so it would never really matter to me.

GO ON AIM

Jap · #**108** 01-15-2002, 07:07 AM

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Originally posted by DeathChill

No I don't agree with anything you said.If he waited and it was 0 it obviously would have been gone..I could care less about gralats hence why I have only 1 so it would never really matter to me.

Then that is his fault for waiting. You either take a chance of it being 20,000g/0g, or don't buy any apples at all.

AlkarenHyralt · #**109** 01-15-2002, 07:07 AM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
If you do not attempt to do it then nothing that you feel is just will get done. You are supposed to be upholding justice and whatnot, which means you have an opinion that actually matters 'legal-wise' on graal.

You are right.

Jap · #**110** 01-15-2002, 07:11 AM

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Originally posted by AlkarenHyralt

You are right.

Thats what I been trying to say! Toran just makes it all smart and understandable.

DeathChill · #**111** 01-15-2002, 07:15 AM

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Originally posted by Jap

Then that is his fault for waiting. You either take a chance of it being 20,000g/0g, or don't buy any apples at all.

Or or or or you learn a REAL way to scam instead of thinking you're cool for doing sucha stupid way ;P

Jap · #**112** 01-15-2002, 07:17 AM

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Originally posted by DeathChill

Or or or or you learn a REAL way to scam instead of thinking you're cool for doing sucha stupid way ;P

Scamming does not make you cool at all my friend.

View GraalOnline Profile · #**113** 01-15-2002, 07:25 AM

Scamming makes you cool, but it also makes the people that got scammed extremely pissed at you.

konidias · #**114** 01-15-2002, 07:41 AM

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I think jap should get the 20k.. sure it's a lot of money, but wtf, you can't draw lines here, he scammed the guy, the guy got scammed, case closed.. it does not matter how much it was..

So you people saying it was wrong, how? Just because it was a lot? So there is a limit on how much you can scam someone for? Since when? I didn't know about any limit.. It's like, you can rip someone out of a bomy, or rip a couple thousand off them, and that's fine? If it's all the money they have, it shouldn't be "fine" so to say 20k makes a difference in this doesn't make sense.. He bought the apple for 20k, therefore, that is what he gets.. is it not? Jap did NOT force him to buy an apple, he didn't trick him saying every one would be free.. and from what I know from being police, unless the person set their banner to free apples, had their name as "giving out free apples" or massed they were giving out free apples, then it's perfectly legal, no mater how much it was.

Saying it's wrong just because it was a lot is ridiculous.. give jap the 20k, it's wrong to take 20k from someone for selling an apple worth that price.. when will it end? Next some kid will be like "I bought this hat for 400 I thought he was going to sell it for less! He scammed I want it back!"

Sir_Gareth · #**115** 01-15-2002, 07:42 AM

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Originally posted by konidias
:: Didn't read all 4 pages of the topic ::

I

theres 8 pages.

View GraalOnline Profile · #**116** 01-15-2002, 07:43 AM

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Originally posted by konidias
:: Didn't read all 4 pages of the topic ::

I think jap should get the 20k.. sure it's a lot of money, but wtf, you can't draw lines here, he scammed the guy, the guy got scammed, case closed.. it does not matter how much it was..

So you people saying it was wrong, how? Just because it was a lot? So there is a limit on how much you can scam someone for? Since when? I didn't know about any limit.. It's like, you can rip someone out of a bomy, or rip a couple thousand off them, and that's fine? If it's all the money they have, it shouldn't be "fine" so to say 20k makes a difference in this doesn't make sense.. He bought the apple for 20k, therefore, that is what he gets.. is it not? Jap did NOT force him to buy an apple, he didn't trick him saying every one would be free.. and from what I know from being police, unless the person set their banner to free apples, had their name as "giving out free apples" or massed they were giving out free apples, then it's perfectly legal, no mater how much it was.

Saying it's wrong just because it was a lot is ridiculous.. give jap the 20k, it's wrong to take 20k from someone for selling an apple worth that price.. when will it end? Next some kid will be like "I bought this hat for 400 I thought he was going to sell it for less! He scammed I want it back!"

AMEN.

Sir_Gareth · #**117** 01-15-2002, 07:49 AM

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and
4196321743214875324873 WHAT EVER OTHER CURRENCY THERE IS...

Googi · #**118** 01-15-2002, 07:52 AM

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Originally posted by Jap
Here is what happend.

I was simply selling SOME apples for 0 gralat. Then, I sold one for 20,000 without saying it would be 0g or saying it would be any amount of money. I had no banner saying ANY apple would be free or pay. I had NO banner at all. Anyways, I get this 20,000 that I had taken away! Alkaren, along with Loriel agree its a LEGAL SALE. So, why was 20,000 taken away from me?

l (1/14/2002 4:27:53 PM):
I agree
Jap. (1/14/2002 4:26:56 PM):
It's legal to scam someone with apples if you had no banner that said free, no
police were there, and I never said they would always be 0 right?

Alkaren Hyralt (Police) (1/14/2002 5:04:21 PM):
Scamming is legal without police witness. But if Loriel chooses to be one scam
illegal, that is his choice, as an admin.

Your an ******* for doing it whether it was legal or not. People on graal need to stop thinking, "is it legal" and "how far can I stretch the boundaries".

View GraalOnline Profile · #**119** 01-15-2002, 08:04 AM

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Originally posted by Googi

Your an ******* for doing it whether it was legal or not. People on graal need to stop thinking, "is it legal" and "how far can I stretch the boundaries".

people on graal need to stop worrying about fake money, and start thinking about how to protect the fake money.

Beowulf2 · #**120** 01-15-2002, 08:05 AM

Jap deserves the 20K. AcidIce's own dumb fault that he lost it all buying an apple. Scamming is nature's way of weeding out the dumb people. As if AcidIce really needs any money anyway. I'm sure he has like everything you can possibly buy by now, and then some. Greedy ****tards.