Unixmad please enlighten us.

[Mykel]

This, if nothing else, should show people, we could definitly use GM's.

Tyhm pratically already is one, but even he is busy with other stuff. An active Forum Admin couldn't hurt either.

[Python523]

Originally posted by Mykel
An active Forum Admin couldn't hurt either.

Are you blind? Tyhm is a pretty active forum admin in my opinion, no offense meant to galen since he has other things to be busy about, but Tyhm is much more active than galen ever was, and if you have such a problem with them meeting their promises then just don't pay and play, it's as simple as that. Graal v3 has been released for linux, mac, and windows, playerworld renting was released and besides a few setbacks, it has been functioning rather well, the new engine has been worked on and is practically done, the reverse compatibility part is besides a few minor bugs. Despite what some people believe, Stefan and Unixmad are still human, some unexpected things could happen to delay the release of something, which is understandable, in real life nothing goes perfect.

[Milkdude99]

Originally posted by Mykel
This, if nothing else, should show people, we could definitly use GM's.

Tyhm pratically already is one, but even he is busy with other stuff. An active Forum Admin couldn't hurt either.

Thym is one of the Forum Admins ....

[Mykel]

Originally posted by Milkdude99
Thym is one of the Forum Admins ....

I know. But he is focused on many things that come before the forums as well. I never said he was a bad forum admin.

[Milkdude99]

Originally posted by Mykel
An active Forum Admin couldn't hurt either.

Ohh and I suppose this is a compliment? :P

[Mykel]

Originally posted by Milkdude99
Ohh and I suppose this is a compliment? :P

No, and it wasn't meant to be. As I said, he has other things.

[Loriel]

Originally posted by Python523
Graal v3 has been released for linux, mac, and windows

Uh, no, they are still in testing/beta/whatever.

[Python523]

Originally posted by Loriel
Uh, no, they are still in testing/beta/whatever.

they were released to VIPs, they can download them, that is released

[Loriel]

Originally posted by Python523

they were released to VIPs, they can download them, that is released

Sir, the point of VIP is to get to test stuff before the release.

[MarkB]

Tyhm is very active and seems to be one of the best decisions unixmad and stefan have made...he seems to really help out, and whenever I have a problem and need assistance, he is always there and responds very rapidly to my pm's.

[ETD]

Originally posted by Python523
if you have such a problem with them meeting their promises then just don't pay and play, it's as simple as that.

it would be kinda stupid to quit a game you've played for 3 years, over 1 thing you don't like...
it would be like dating someone for 3 years, then dumping them, because of 1 small thing you see wrong in the other person
=x
(ok, i know that's not the best example, but you know what i mean)

Originally posted by Python523
Graal v3 has been released for linux, mac, and windows

so? I personally don;t care about the new versions.. i never notice anything much different... it might improve the gameplay a little with each new version, but i would MUCH rather get a working guild system, and other things, before a new version of graal...

Originally posted by Python523
playerworld renting was released and besides a few setbacks, it has been functioning rather well

I liked it better with an active PWA
=x
this way, anyone can have a server, and it just ruins it... I mean, the old way, my server would be online right now... this way, we still are not up, since i do not have the money
=/

Originally posted by Python523
the new engine has been worked on and is practically done, the reverse compatibility part is besides a few minor bugs.

yea, from what i heard about that, it sounds like it'll make graal a lot of fun =) more things will be able to be scripted, and such... this is one thing i can;t wait to see

Originally posted by Python523
Despite what some people believe, Stefan and Unixmad are still human, some unexpected things could happen to delay the release of something, which is understandable, in real life nothing goes perfect.

which is why you PLAN on having setbacks! I know that in a class, if you turn a paper in late, because you got in an accident, you don;t get credit.. why? because you were late.. it was your fault for waiting till the last min anyways. Lets say you get hired somewhere, to do something, and you tell them you'll have the job done in 10 days... and you're late because something unexpected happened... it's still your own fault, and you'd have to pay for any damages the extra wait caused.

the point is simple.. you give a time you know you can have something done by... ASSUMING there will be setbacks... like, say you can have something done in 2 days... and, as long as everything goes as planned, it would be done in 2 days... I would much rather see Unix, and Stefan say it will be done in 4 days, because, as you said, NOTHING ever goes exactly as planned, and they should expect delays...

this is not about the PW hosting, this is about everything in general... I'm not bashing them, or anything... maybe they have a different opinion about this than i do... but i know that i would rather them tell me it will take them 1 month to fix something, and have it actually done then, then have them say it'll take 4 days, but it ends up being a month.

(sorry for the long post... i know i ramble)

[Andy0687]

Originally posted by Darlene159
This is what happens when kiddies dont read stuff...much like they dont read the terms of use, graal rules, or forum rules....reading things typed sure does benefit people sometimes, huh? The process was very clear in Unixmad's post on hosting, but all some of you could think of was getting the PW online....

Yes this is the sole reason i didnt shell out the 100 for my pw, because if it is not online, for everyone to play, i see no use in owning one, at all.

It would be like purchasing a store, and no one came to do buisness, yet you kept shelling out money to make it better, with no profit revenue (in this case players)

whats the use really? if you think about it, the hard truth is about 3/4ths of all the pws will be reletivially usless

[Python523]

Originally posted by Loriel
Sir, the point of VIP is to get to test stuff before the release.

you don't see my point, some people said the VIPs have nothing, I am mearly saying that is false and stating some things they do have

[Milkdude99]

Originally posted by Andy0687


Yes this is the sole reason i didnt shell out the 100 for my pw, because if it is not online, for everyone to play, i see no use in owning one, at all.

It would be like purchasing a store, and no one came to do buisness, yet you kept shelling out money to make it better, with no profit revenue (in this case players)

whats the use really? if you think about it, the hard truth is about 3/4ths of all the pws will be reletivially usless

I totally agree and I would venture to say at least 100 PWs will wither and die in the dust and won't be renewed again for hosting because no one will play half made crap PWs whose only reason for being online is so the Owner/Manager can say he/she has a PW. It's a power trip plain and simple, 97% don't have a clue how to run a PW much less organize one for a successful online appearence. There are way to little Scripters. Lats and Gats to support so many PWs and the end result will be commonplace theft of levels and scripts because they cannot make their own.

It's already happening and will only get worse as desperation sets in on those who need something for their PW. It is a good move on Graal's part but the problem lies within those who don't think of what is involved or don't have a clue what is involved and just dives in without giving what they are doing some real serious thought before laying out the "bucks". Very few of the new PWs will ever get to the visible list so you really need to think and plan for what you need to do and HAVE THE STAFF BEFORE IT GOES UP not after because there are very few good Lats, Gats and Nats to go around and chances are they will NOT be working on your server.

[Andy0687]

Originally posted by Milkdude99
I totally agree and I would venture to say at least 100 PWs will wither and die in the dust and won't be renewed again for hosting because no one will play half made crap PWs whose only reason for being online is so the Owner/Manager can say he/she has a PW. It's a power trip plain and simple, 97% don't have a clue how to run a PW much less organize one for a successful online appearence. There are way to little Scripters. Lats and Gats to support so many PWs and the end result will be commonplace theft of levels and scripts because they cannot make their own.

It's already happening and will only get worse as desperation sets in on those who need something for their PW. It is a good move on Graal's part but the problem lies within those who don't think of what is involved or don't have a clue what is involved and just dives in without giving what they are doing some real serious thought before laying out the "bucks". Very few of the new PWs will ever get to the visible list so you really need to think and plan for what you need to do and HAVE THE STAFF BEFORE IT GOES UP not after because there are very few good Lats, Gats and Nats to go around and chances are they will NOT be working on your server.

Also those pws that make it, may even end up repeating what others have, i was helping out a pw one day and all they kept telling me is "we need something like valk" with contant refrence to either valk, era, or un

If servers will not be unique, and organized in such, they will as you said, end up dieing, And also, after people notice what pattern the list will fall in, will it not be much longer before everyone would quit renewing their PWs because they have "no chance" when they are competing with the better servers.

Then this defeats the buisness aspect graal thrived to achieve

Im not saying it was a bad move, because im sure most people know the payoff they (cyberjoueurs, stefan, unixmad) is getting from this, is much less then most people would ever make in a "buisness"

They needed to profit somehow, but the purchasers will in the end complain because they didnt fully read what they should have
and attempt to place the blame on Unix and Stefan. which is where the loop will start all over again.

People even just wanted the power, so needed to shell more out for gold/vip, that would put a smile on my face too, if i owned a game like graal

[NovaNET]

yeah i have kept my mouth shut on alot of stuff but lately things have been ticking me off like a human would stir up a hoard of orcs.

Originally posted by adam


Indeed, You are prabably the only person who remained calm and tried to support them since you showed back up.

[Tseng]

I don't feel like typing a lot of vb code.

Mykel: How about putting together an intellectual post, instead of an idiotic oneline comment like that?

ETD: Stefan has been doing a ton of non-kingdoms work lately (well, before his vacation) on debug. He's been working on the new scripting engine, on the new graal, etc. Additionally, just because you do not like a privilege VIP grants does not mean that privilege does not exist, and therefore does not mean you can cite that to show how they 'break promises'.

Loriel: "Released to the general public" and "Released to VIPs" are two very different things.

Nova: You phrase your words as if you have very, very large problems with graal which for some reason you have not stated before. Why would you hide problems which you had? Constructive criticism is a good thing, after all.

[deman1171]

Oooh, one more post and you will have 1000 posts.

[superb]

Originally posted by deman1171
Oooh, one more post and you will have 1000 posts.

You lied... You told us you would stop spamming so much yet you still continue.

[Python523]

Originally posted by superb


You lied... You told us you would stop spamming so much yet you still continue.

Yet that itself, was a useless post

[Minoc]

Originally posted by Python523


Yet that itself, was a useless post

Same was your reply.

[superb]

Originally posted by Python523


Yet that itself, was a useless post

No sir, it served the purpose of informing Emily that she is not being true to her word. If anything, your post was much more useless than mine.

[Python523]

Originally posted by superb


No sir, it served the purpose of informing Emily that she is not being true to her word. If anything, your post was much more useless than mine.

Well you could've just chosen to ignore her =P well I suppose I could've done the same for you as well...

[superb]

Originally posted by Python523


Well you could've just chosen to ignore her =P well I suppose I could've done the same for you as well...

Then we are in mutual agreement that perhaps we should both shut the hell up?

[Milkdude99]

Originally posted by superb


Then we are in mutual agreement that perhaps we should both shut the hell up?

Umm I think you both have spamed enough in the last few post on this thread, don't you think?