Very important announcement

[Jin2]

Graal 2001= Graal: New Beginning

[albus777]

Graal 2001:A new Hope

[Er1c]

Originally posted by agretsguest
as for the not saving on the server, well I dont think many people would be too happy about that and it could cause some arguments....

Don't you get it? Getting to save your attributes is one of the B E N I F I T S of upgrading your account. If you want to have your attributes saved, you upgrade your account, simple.

[Er1c]

Originally posted by toad1413


1 and 2, I had them explained to me.

3, on the other hand, let me explain something.

Imagine you are on a dialup modem, like a 56k one. Now, as well as the lag that we usually get, which us modemers can handle, we also have cut off times. Mine's set at 4 hours, although it sometimes does it earlier, and others can be less. Now, think about this. If you had to redo everthing every 4 hours, you too would most likely just say "**** this game", and leave. I know I would.

Well I think that unixmad and stefan are hoping that instead of saying "**** this game" people say "i better upgrade"

[toad1413]

Originally posted by Er1c
Don't you get it? Getting to save your attributes is one of the B E N I F I T S of upgrading your account. If you want to have your attributes saved, you upgrade your account, simple.

No saving account = Account being reset each time you log off, right?

Now.

Account being reset each time you disconnect + Modemers who disconnect every 4 hours or so = No modemers coming to graal

And there are more modemers than cablers, so it isn't wise to do this, I'm afraid.

[freddyfox]

Originally posted by toad1413
Account being reset each time you disconnect + Modemers who disconnect every 4 hours or so = No modemers coming to graal

So buy the full lifetime subscription. Pay more if you want more, simple as that.

[P-a-W-n]

Originally posted by freddyfox


So buy the full lifetime subscription. Pay more if you want more, simple as that.

Yeah, $15 dollars isn't that much of a sacrifice if you really like Graal (in my opinion at least) , considering that most of the shirts that I buy cost more than that.

[Lao_Su2]

I pay a monthly subscription to play p2p servers?
We will have to pay one to playe either 2k1 or 2k2?
What will happen to other p2p worlds?
Will we have to re-register?

[P-a-W-n]

Originally posted by Lao_Su2
I pay a monthly subscription to play p2p servers?
We will have to pay one to playe either 2k1 or 2k2?
What will happen to other p2p worlds?
Will we have to re-register?

Answer to question number 1: Yes, you do. (Or I believe you do, since you're on this forum.)
Answer to question number 2:Huh? (If you have p2p already you don't need to do anything, I think.)
Answer to question number 3: Hey, that's a good question. Are the other p2p servers classified under playerworlds?
Answer to question number 4:Not if you have p2p.

[Dayson2001]

ive paid....
unixmad answer my post in the graal graphics section...
-Dayson

[ZeroFXSM]

this means oasis and all those other cool playerworlds won't be p2p so I don't have to register my account! "HOO HAH!"

[c0nsp1racy]

When this new 2k1 is instated is it a basic reset for all accts?

[c0nsp1racy]

Also server name maybe
Graalian Games?

[Domini]

What the hell SLaG? He didn't say anything about a reset.
READ HIS POST people.

[toad1413]

Originally posted by freddyfox


So buy the full lifetime subscription. Pay more if you want more, simple as that.

No one I know would pay $15 for the thing. And that's most likely euro, or american, so that'd be $30 AU.

[c0nsp1racy]

Originally posted by Domini
What the hell SLaG? He didn't say anything about a reset.
READ HIS POST people.

"New 2k1", I wanna know if that means resets aswell.

[Vincent_TK]

lol....its great because all of you guys already get to play... this is will probably have huge damage on Classic, but i guess it had to come sometime.

[Slaktmaster]

Sounds great, damn great job Unixmad and Stefan, may Graal live forever!

[Valder]

This sounds incredible.

[Tyhm]

After talking about it back and forth for a while, I think I have to agree with Unixmad - if the players can't be arsed to chip in, we don't need the freeloaders, no matter how much they contribute to the community. Hopefully we'll have it set up in such a way that everyone can upgrade easily in time - I don't reckon he'd do the freeloader wipe before the phone thing gets set up, but if it comes down to that or shutting down...=_=
The phone thing - apparently there's a company that'll set up the 800 number and the voicemail and everything, all the automation, for a monthly fee. Since they track the calling numbers, they can hold people responsible for their own phone bills.Finally getting to the levels - as I understand it, all I have to do is set up some special warps or NPCs on the blank houses, and instead of it sending you to a static level on the main server, it sends you to a "pw" house, some player's personal storage area. Hopefully it'll be automated too, so I don't have to change it every time someone leaves the server and deletes their house and all...there is a finite amount of space on Classic, after all. For those houses there will apparently be another automated system by which you can bring your classic stats in, but can't bring anything out...sorta like if you remember the Mantara bug where you could bring the trees out...like that, but intentional this time. ^_^
Not sure if there would be server-select PWs, but I imagine there could be player-house PWs...

[Krakken]

Fantastic! Absolutely fantastic!

[Tyhm]

Owait, I remember hearing something else fairly crucial...
Remember that idea about NPCs taking over for players when they log off, so you can keep doing your job even when you're not online...making it impossible to raid a kingdom at 2 in the morning when nobody's there to defend it?

Yeah.

[Slaktmaster]

That phone thing rocks, it means I will be able to upgrade!

[Zelgadis_Geywords]

I have an interesting question though. If servers such as G2k1, and G2k2 will be accessable via monthly subscription, how will the extra features, such as the forums, and Graal's mailing service be handled? Will that be on a monthly subscription basis, too?

[c0nsp1racy]

Originally posted by Tyhm
I imagine there could be player-house PWs...

You mean like back in the day where you walked thru a door and you were in a pw?

[Tyhm]

Yup. Not certain, but I think that's the direction they're leaning.

[Qwert616]

Wow, this sounds great .

[Birdbird_0]

I love it!

2k1 is getting a new sorta social and questy/rp feeling,

[c0nsp1racy]

Originally posted by Tyhm
Yup. Not certain, but I think that's the direction they're leaning.

Bah never liked that remember when there was the glitch and we could bring items back thru the pw door? Caused massive havoc

[konidias]

All of it sounds good to me. Gotta pay for the servers somehow.

[toad1413]

Originally posted by Zelgadis_Geywords
I have an interesting question though. If servers such as G2k1, and G2k2 will be accessable via monthly subscription, how will the extra features, such as the forums, and Graal's mailing service be handled? Will that be on a monthly subscription basis, too?

I think by monthly the mean the normal subscription, becuase that goes in monthly subscriptions already. 3 month, 6 month, 9 month (?), 12 month.

[Zelgadis_Geywords]

Originally posted by toad1413


I think by monthly the mean the normal subscription, becuase that goes in monthly subscriptions already. 3 month, 6 month, 9 month (?), 12 month.

Ah, alright. If so, that clears a lot of confusion on my part.

[toad1413]

Originally posted by Zelgadis_Geywords


Ah, alright. If so, that clears a lot of confusion on my part.

Yup. It would.

[Kaimetsu]

Two thumbs up, Unixmad! This all sounds great, and a bold new move for Graal. Hopefully it can serve us all to make Graal a better place for old and new players alike

But... all playerworlds non-P2P? At the moment that sounds fine, but what if there comes a PW more popular than G2K2?

[Spanko]

Originally posted by Kaimetsu
Two thumbs up, Unixmad! This all sounds great, and a bold new move for Graal. Hopefully it can serve us all to make Graal a better place for old and new players alike

But... all playerworlds non-P2P? At the moment that sounds fine, but what if there comes a PW more popular than G2K2?

I think non-subscription based would be a better way of putting it :P

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Anyway, what I'm mostly wondering about is if my grim_squeaker_x account which used to be upgraded will automattically get the lifetime subscription or not, after all it is not currently upgraded anymore, though it does count as a bought account. (As in, that I cannot get ghost mode on any of the free servers)

[Edit]
Nevermind, I just noticed that it will count as lifetime upgraded.
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[Pinktaco]

Welp sounds great. Although there will be a major decrease in players, but it's all good. But this will mean more....dun dun dun! Credit Card Frauds.

[WHIPENIE4]

I love the idea.

I LOVE the Phone Idea,i'll be able to upgrade again without any problems!
You've done it once again Unix,Thought of a cost-effective way to bring better things to graal!
Although this will mean a BIG decrease in players

A BIG decrease in players isnt nessasarly(sp) a bad thing, less players less lag no? Less newbie playerworlds that last not even a month. More close friends, with the current ppl playing graal everyone is spread out so much less players more of the p2p players talk and get to know each other making it a better playing enviroment

Again I love this idea.

[__XxRazorxX__]

this is great i wonder when these things will take affect?

[Loriel]

What unixmad said

Spiffy plans
If I didn't have a perma upgraded account, I'd go and upgrade mine now!

Originally posted by Tyhm
I proofread it. ;

Apparently Classic's gonna get to do all the G2K1 stuff, you gotta love a lifetime subscription, nearest I can tell all you guys get registered for free...
* All players that have already paid once for graal2001 will be automatically registered.
...so yeah, no ghost mode ever, that's nice...

I'm, ironically, partial to Antagos names for the servers.
Classic=Graal: The Adventure
G2K1=Graal: The Bomy Moon
so G2K2 would be like
Graal: Eight Kingdoms

I kinda expected that you proofread it when I saw that smily after the no-cheating-in-trial-mode thing.
Also, I like those names

[LilNiglet]

Yeah! Great job!!

*dances*