Complains about admins - Page 2

IceHawk · #41 12-17-2001, 02:58 AM

The BUGS admin had to delete your account?

BruceLee2000 · #42 12-17-2001, 03:04 AM

yeah! let's hire bear back! WUB! ROFL! LMAO!

he was great! always saying the stupidest things and never picking up that people would make fun of the things he said! ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WUB DA BEAR HUGZ MY COTTON LOL!

))DDD

always listening to people! (when he was forced to) hardly ever being on graal and insulting people who were on graal a lot! such a great guy bear is! kicking people off the rc because they wouldn't accept him as being this god! man, bear rules! go bear!

Chrismas · #43 12-17-2001, 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BruceLee2000
yeah! let's hire bear back! WUB! ROFL! LMAO!

he was great! always saying the stupidest things and never picking up that people would make fun of the things he said! ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WUB DA BEAR HUGZ MY COTTON LOL! ))DDD

always listening to people! (when he was forced to) hardly ever being on graal and insulting people who were on graal a lot! such a great guy bear is! kicking people off the rc because they wouldn't accept him as being this god! man, bear rules! go bear!

5 points.

Nastazio · #44 12-17-2001, 03:35 AM

Why not hire some staff who don't just sit on RC with the name "away dnd busy" or the nick on graal "Don't PM me or i will ignore you" or something retarded. coughKONIDIASandBIRDBIRDcough

ArmadeusWarlock · #45 12-17-2001, 05:12 AM

Ok, we are not getting anywhere by arguin, now, lets discuss the problems.

Admin Corruption:
A)Power Abuse --
Since when did an admin get to abuse his power? It may be temptin, but any and all power abusers should not get an RC at all. I would rather have an honest hard worker than barely knows how to use an RC than an RC god who acts like he owns Graal. They constantly use their warpto for no reason at all, just becuase they are too damned lazy to walk like the rest of us. THEN they get to use weapons we don't get (Zal Rifle, not giving out any names on who uses em), etc. I wouldnt be suprised if those that owned houses and had RC would RC themselves money for house rent or to buy whatever they want. RC's should not get any special privelages that the players dont have. They should play the game as normal players and follow the same rules, and only use their powers when they actually need them.

B)No Help --
What is an admin if he doesn't do his job? They say they have so much work to do. Why? Because all they do is screw around all day and not get their work done. Then it builds up, and when they finally do their work, when people ask for help, they won't help becuase they slacked off. Oh god. Even if they don't have work, most of the admins only do their jobs 20% of the time, and log off or change their nick if you ask them to do something.

C)Any others? --
Some times you will say something like "Gimme an RC ill get the work done unlike these lazy bas turds" or something that makes you sound good, but you don't get one. Why? Because they dont trust you, and because they dont think you can do their job. They dont give you a chance, thats why you can't prove yourself. Admins always try to loo good on their first few weeks of being an admin, but after that they slack off because they get to keep their admin powers.

Im not arguing, Im pointing this out. Get someone who will do the job, hold tryouts, do something, but fire these corrupted RCs. You could even add understudies, so if the head admin quits, one of the understudies gets the admin spot and he will know what to do. Case closed.

AlkarenHyralt · #46 12-17-2001, 05:25 AM

"power tends to corrupt"

Notice the tends. Just because you have "power" doesn't mean you are going to abuse it. Nor does RC = lazyness and corruption. Stop sterotyping admins.

James205 · #47 12-17-2001, 05:27 AM

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Originally posted by Gspeed2000
Stefan, fire everyone and hire Mr. Bear to higher proper people. I can't take any of this and I am just realizing how badly managed Graal is.

Ps. Isn't Unixmad supposed to be in charge of management?

Yeah, fire me Godspeed. I am horrible.

(come on Godspeed that was stupid)

James205 · #48 12-17-2001, 05:28 AM

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Originally posted by Nastazio
Why not hire some staff who don't just sit on RC with the name "away dnd busy" or the nick on graal "Don't PM me or i will ignore you" or something retarded. coughKONIDIASandBIRDBIRDcough

We don't choose to be away. on RC there is an option to turn off the -away when the playerlist is closed, but when we do it still does it. I go on graal and find my name to be "James205 -away" when on RC it says 'James205 (Account Manager) or just 'James205' you have to change it many times. i usually forget.

James · #49 12-17-2001, 05:28 AM

Mr. Bear is no better. My PMs were always ignored by him as well.

James205 · #50 12-17-2001, 05:29 AM

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Originally posted by James
Mr. Bear is no better. My PMs were always ignored by him as well.

He ignored me quite a bit as well.

ZanderX · #51 12-17-2001, 05:31 AM

Here's a nice line.

Quote:

Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

psihunter · #52 12-17-2001, 05:33 AM

People are born naturally to abuses power =X

AlkarenHyralt · #53 12-17-2001, 05:33 AM

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Originally posted by ZanderX
Here's a nice line.

It's power tends to corrupt, not power corrupts. But it is said both ways. Either way, the point is made.

ZanderX · #54 12-17-2001, 05:41 AM

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Originally posted by AlkarenHyralt

It's power tends to corrupt, not power corrupts. But it is said both ways. Either way, the point is made.

No.

The quote goes

"Power corrupts. Absolutely power corrupts absolutely."

My history teacher has recited that line to us about 500 times since school started. Trust me, I know it.

psichill · #55 12-17-2001, 05:44 AM

Kamuii that is soo true..

AlkarenHyralt · #56 12-17-2001, 05:47 AM

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Originally posted by ZanderX

No.

The quote goes

"Power corrupts. Absolutely power corrupts absolutely."

My history teacher has recited that line to us about 500 times since school started. Trust me, I know it.

As I said, I've heard it said both ways, either way the point is clearly made. It sounds biased though as that. I have "power" and I am not corrupt.

LilNiglet · #57 12-17-2001, 07:44 AM

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Originally posted by AlkarenHyralt
"power tends to corrupt"

Notice the tends. Just because you have "power" doesn't mean you are going to abuse it. Nor does RC = lazyness and corruption. Stop sterotyping admins.

"Power tends to corrupt, but absolute power corrupts absolutly."

If this is true, Stefan is the most corrupt of all!

psichill · #58 12-17-2001, 07:46 AM

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Originally posted by LilNiglet

"Power tends to corrupt, but absolute power corrupts absolutly."

If this is true, Stefan is the most corrupt of all!

OOS: COWBOY BEBOP OWNS!

Torankusu · #59 12-17-2001, 07:48 AM

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Originally posted by IceHawk
The BUGS admin had to delete your account?

yeah. My account was "torankusu" and I asked mr. bear to delete it, and he didn't respond at all. I saw hawk on one day, and he deleted it for me so that I could recreate it.

r_u_f_u_s · #60 12-17-2001, 08:32 AM

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Originally posted by Stefan

I do
At least emails :/
Also I read & answer important PMs and emails often

SP Agent and myself have sent you many emails concerning the state of Delteria, but we have not gotten an absolute answer yet. I know you are very busy, but please answer us, and if you have read the emails please consider what we have said.

Lyndzey · #61 12-17-2001, 09:14 AM

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Originally posted by Vincent_TK
Why email and PM them when you never answer?

Since G2001 came out, Stefan has answered everyone of my emails.

Mr. Bear · #62 12-17-2001, 09:21 AM

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Originally posted by BruceLee2000
yeah! let's hire bear back! WUB! ROFL! LMAO!

he was great! always saying the stupidest things and never picking up that people would make fun of the things he said! ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WUB DA BEAR HUGZ MY COTTON LOL! ))DDD

always listening to people! (when he was forced to) hardly ever being on graal and insulting people who were on graal a lot! such a great guy bear is! kicking people off the rc because they wouldn't accept him as being this god! man, bear rules! go bear!

AHH The Gameo..... Correction... You were kicked off RC for calling Lycia fat and all this other bullshit ON THE RC. Staff are suppose to be friends not people trying to gain control of their lives by making fun of people. So before you come on this forum to lie so your popularity on game can increase think twice. You are worried what people think about you so you try to gain attention. I never Ever said *WUB* to you so again you have no place to talk. Tired of me saying things to my friends then guess what I DONT CARE. Why don't you get some sort of life and then come on the game to have FUN instead of arguing.

Now your going to respond with a bunch of things noone wants to hear. You will say "I HAVE A LIFE GUYS". If you had a life you wouldn't be here *****ing at all the things people say. I think i will go back to that same policy of ignoring you as i had before because i don't need to be popular in your mind.

milotheman · #63 12-17-2001, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr. Bear

AHH The Gameo..... Correction... You were kicked off RC for calling Lycia fat and all this other bullshit. So before you come on this forum to lie so your popularity on game can increase think twice. You are worried what people think about you so you try to gain attention. I never Ever said *WUB* to you so again you have no place to talk. Tired of me saying things to my friends then guess what I DONT CARE. Why don't you get some sort of life and then come on the game to have FUN instead of arguing.

Now your going to respond with a bunch of things noone wants to hear. You will say "I HAVE A LIFE GUYS". If you had a life you wouldn't be here *****ing at all the things people say. I think i will go back to that same policy of ignoring you as i had before because i don't need to be popular in your mind.

go bear

Mr. Bear · #64 12-17-2001, 09:34 AM

AND i'm sorry. i might of missed PMS when i was staff but i never said i was perfect.

I worked my butt off everyday behind the scenes with other staff members. You know what else kills gameo inside and probably makes him have a stress attacks? When other people are recognized for doing something good or when someone gets more attention then himself. When i was staff i treated everyone the same and didn't favor the people who were popular. That got him mad.

FatherDante · #65 12-17-2001, 09:39 AM

Now, let's be fair here. I really doubt that anybody actually ever thinks "Dagnabbit, he treats everyone so darn fairly I'm ready to burst!" That's just slander.

TrueHeaT · #66 12-17-2001, 09:44 AM

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Originally posted by Mr. Bear
AND i'm sorry. i might of missed PMS when i was staff but i never said i was perfect.

I worked my butt off everyday behind the scenes with other staff members. You know what else kills gameo inside and probably makes him have a stress attacks? When other people are recognized for doing something good or when someone gets more attention then himself. When i was staff i treated everyone the same and didn't favor the people who were popular. That got him mad.

i think gameo is the last person in the world to have stress attacks

he's great!

BruceLee2000 · #67 12-17-2001, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr. Bear

AHH The Gameo..... Correction... You were kicked off RC for calling Lycia fat and all this other bullshit ON THE RC. Staff are suppose to be friends not people trying to gain control of their lives by making fun of people. So before you come on this forum to lie so your popularity on game can increase think twice. You are worried what people think about you so you try to gain attention. I never Ever said *WUB* to you so again you have no place to talk. Tired of me saying things to my friends then guess what I DONT CARE. Why don't you get some sort of life and then come on the game to have FUN instead of arguing.

Now your going to respond with a bunch of things noone wants to hear. You will say "I HAVE A LIFE GUYS". If you had a life you wouldn't be here *****ing at all the things people say. I think i will go back to that same policy of ignoring you as i had before because i don't need to be popular in your mind.

i never called her fat, i said i refused to work under such a terrible person never refering to her weight at all

i don't need popularity! i don't even play graal, i just hang around on the forums to read the interesting and dumb things that people say. now everyone is praising you and thinking you were htis "great almighty admin" when you weren't! you were just as bad as loriel, he's probably better. LOL WUB ROFL I'm an admin hey everyone "MASS MESSAGE: LOL EVERYONE WUB HUG DAH COTTON!!!! LOL!!! ROFL!"

i have a life and a job, so i'm basically happy...i have a group of friends that i hang around with and an active social life with the ladies

too

Torankusu · #68 12-17-2001, 09:50 AM

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Originally posted by BruceLee2000
"MASS MESSAGE: LOL EVERYONE WUB HUG DAH COTTON!!!! LOL!!! ROFL!"

He actually did things like this.

psihunter · #69 12-17-2001, 09:51 AM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
He actually did things like this.

Wasn't he the one who made something like
Cotton God or Cotton Crew?

TrueHeaT · #70 12-17-2001, 09:51 AM

amongst other things. bear really wasn't a great admin.

Torankusu · #71 12-17-2001, 10:01 AM

Cotton Crew.

I think the only reason godspeed is saying that he wants mr. bear back because mr. bear was the one that gave him some position. The other admins/new ones (Nightlord?) fired him.

G_yoshi · #72 12-17-2001, 10:03 AM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
He actually did things like this.

So? What is wrong with it? He is having fun. It is the same as me going on and massing "SPAM". Seriously, you people need to not get so worked up over things like that.

BruceLee2000 · #73 12-17-2001, 10:05 AM

it's a professional game and nightlord conducts/conducted himself as a professional

personally i think all the admins should be fired and replaced, and so should the horrid owners :o

an admin shouldn't go on and start massing garbage in order to get himself popular with players, it's annoying and the way he speaks is not becoming of an admin, or even a 16 year old. LOL WUB HUG DA COTTON ROFL!!! EVERYONE WHO WANTS TO HUG ME LOL! I LUB U ALL BY!

G_yoshi · #74 12-17-2001, 10:10 AM

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Originally posted by BruceLee2000
it's a professional game and nightlord conducts/conducted himself as a professional

personally i think all the admins should be fired and replaced, and so should the horrid owners :o

an admin shouldn't go on and start massing garbage in order to get himself popular with players, it's annoying and the way he speaks is not becoming of an admin, or even a 16 year old. LOL WUB HUG DA COTTON ROFL!!! EVERYONE WHO WANTS TO HUG ME LOL! I LUB U ALL BY!

I believe the only one with a problem is you

You seem to forget that the staff is NOT a professional one...it is done on a volunteer basis. And who is to say that professional staff don't have fun? Sitting on your ass and doing nothing is very monotonous...there is no harm in massing silly messages as long as it's kept in moderation.

BruceLee2000 · #75 12-17-2001, 10:36 AM

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Originally posted by G_yoshi

I believe the only one with a problem is you

You seem to forget that the staff is NOT a professional one...it is done on a volunteer basis. And who is to say that professional staff don't have fun? Sitting on your ass and doing nothing is very monotonous...there is no harm in massing silly messages as long as it's kept in moderation.

it should be a professional staff. the people are paying money for stupid teenagers to mess up their game. it's a professional game, and he should conduct himself likewise.

he should be doing his job and not goofing off

Vincent_TK · #76 12-17-2001, 10:44 AM

It SHOULD be a professional staff, but its not. Bear was one of the better staff members.

G_yoshi · #77 12-17-2001, 10:47 AM

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Originally posted by BruceLee2000

it should be a professional staff. the people are paying money for stupid teenagers to mess up their game. it's a professional game, and he should conduct himself likewise.

he should be doing his job and not goofing off

Assuming if your logic was correct, that's boring. I can have fun while I am at work and still work too. I mean, come on. You really think that you should bind yourself like that? A professional staff costs money...and lots of it. More than the money recieved from upgraded accounts can help take care of. There is absolutely no harm in what he did. It only would be if he were doing it for sadistic reasons and was actually causing serious harm. Being an annoyance is nothing serious...just annoying.

BruceLee2000 · #78 12-17-2001, 10:54 AM

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Originally posted by G_yoshi

Assuming if your logic was correct, that's boring. I can have fun while I am at work and still work too. I mean, come on. You really think that you should bind yourself like that? A professional staff costs money...and lots of it. More than the money recieved from upgraded accounts can help take care of. There is absolutely no harm in what he did. It only would be if he were doing it for sadistic reasons and was actually causing serious harm. Being an annoyance is nothing serious...just annoying.

there was no harm in what he did, but most people don't care, most people don't want to see it.

by doing that, he ends up on the ignore lists of many people, or maybe even a few, doesn't really matter because every paying customer counts, and now they'll have him on ignore when he finally has something important to say, seeing as how he's an admin and all

G_yoshi · #79 12-17-2001, 11:00 AM

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Originally posted by BruceLee2000

there was no harm in what he did, but most people don't care, most people don't want to see it.

by doing that, he ends up on the ignore lists of many people, or maybe even a few, doesn't really matter because every paying customer counts, and now they'll have him on ignore when he finally has something important to say, seeing as how he's an admin and all

then it is their problem, not his. If you ignore someone it's your fault if you miss important information. You are just as responsible as anyone else and trying to justify it the other way is wrong.

BruceLee2000 · #80 12-17-2001, 11:13 AM

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Originally posted by G_yoshi

then it is their problem, not his. If you ignore someone it's your fault if you miss important information. You are just as responsible as anyone else and trying to justify it the other way is wrong.

no, it's his fault
he shouldn't be massing that garbage in the first place