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SkooL · #41 12-09-2001, 12:11 PM

Make sure you print out a copy of the agreement (especially the part about no information being given out) before the evidence is tampered with, and you are left with nothing.

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ · #42 12-09-2001, 12:34 PM

Oh please let's all go sue Graal so we can put it out of business, then NO ONE can play it

Torankusu · #43 12-09-2001, 12:36 PM

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Originally posted by _0AfTeRsHoCk0_
Oh please let's all go sue Graal so we can put it out of business, then NO ONE can play it

What is your problem? They let his information be released, and people have it. Who knows what they could do with it? His life could be in danger.

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ · #44 12-09-2001, 12:41 PM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
What is your problem? They let his information be released, and people have it. Who knows what they could do with it? His life could be in danger.

True that, but we shouldn't be posting on how we can get revenge on Graal because my information was given out. One lawsuit COULD be the end of Graal, and I sure as hell don't want to see it die because of a lawsuit

Torankusu · #45 12-09-2001, 12:44 PM

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Originally posted by _0AfTeRsHoCk0_

True that, but we shouldn't be posting on how we can get revenge on Graal because my information was given out. One lawsuit COULD be the end of Graal, and I sure as hell don't want to see it die because of a lawsuit

But you would like to see/hear of him die(dying) because of graal's pitiful security?

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ · #46 12-09-2001, 12:46 PM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
But you would like to see/hear of him die(dying) because of graal's pitiful security?

Of course not
And that's all I will say on that because I partly agree with you but partly not

ninjaterd · #47 12-09-2001, 12:47 PM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
It undoubtedly states in the "parents" section that no information will be given out. go for it.

it meant the people that run bloody graal wont give it out u idiot......does it say 'No hacker will suddenly hack into our database and steal the information u give us and show it to people' does it say that?

Torankusu · #48 12-09-2001, 01:00 PM

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Originally posted by ninjaterd

it meant the people that run bloody graal wont give it out u idiot......does it say 'No hacker will suddenly hack into our database and steal the information u give us and show it to people' does it say that?

oh. forgive me.
I must've misinterpreted "none of your information will ever be given out," then. I did not know it only meant by the staff.

Chrismas · #49 12-09-2001, 02:01 PM

graal better get that file contained, couldnt some lawsuits form out of it?

kp_p2p · #50 12-10-2001, 05:50 AM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
oh. forgive me.
I must've misinterpreted "none of your information will ever be given out," then. I did not know it only meant by the staff.

Exactly.. It states that they will not give it out. They didn't. A hacker got into it, stole it and gave it out. They shouldn't need tons and tons of security, if people weren't doing illegal things and looking at information there not supposed to see.

Torankusu · #51 12-10-2001, 05:56 AM

Perhaps, chris.

Torankusu · #52 12-10-2001, 06:04 AM

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Privacy Statement

Information Collection and Use
GraalOnline.com collects information from our users at several different points on our website. GraalOnline.com is the sole owner of the information collected on this website. We will not sell, share, or rent this information to others in ways different from what is disclosed in this statement.

I hope that they don't change and take it off just so that they aren't sued for their mistakes. They need to take responsibility in this.

kp_p2p · #53 12-10-2001, 06:09 AM

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We will not sell, share, or rent this information to others in ways different from what is disclosed in this statement.

They didn't sell, share, or rent out the information. It was stolen. =/

SkooL · #54 12-10-2001, 06:11 AM

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Originally posted by kp_p2p
They didn't sell, share, or rent out the information. It was stolen. =/

It was "shared" due to the lack of security.

Xythar · #55 12-10-2001, 06:16 AM

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Originally posted by kp_p2p

Exactly.. It states that they will not give it out. They didn't. A hacker got into it, stole it and gave it out. They shouldn't need tons and tons of security, if people weren't doing illegal things and looking at information there not supposed to see.

...And we wouldn't need airport screenings if people didn't blow up planes. Unfortunately, they do.

Graal's main consumers are small children. Ever hear of pedophilia? There's hordes of perverts who would love to get their hands on that kind of information. Cyberjouer either need to get their ass in gear with security, or close. And I'm afraid that a lawsuit may be the only thing they'll take seriously.

kp_p2p · #56 12-10-2001, 06:29 AM

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...And we wouldn't need airport screenings if people didn't blow up planes. Unfortunately, they do.

Graal's main consumers are small children. Ever hear of pedophilia? There's hordes of perverts who would love to get their hands on that kind of information. Cyberjouer either need to get their ass in gear with security, or close. And I'm afraid that a lawsuit may be the only thing they'll take seriously.

yes but you didn't see the airports getting sued for the lack of security, they got more security now. Which is what graal needs. I'm not sticking up for anyone, I'm just saying if you try to sue it will be a good arguement. When all these major websites were hacked and credit card info was stolen.. The company of the webpage was not sued for it, hackers can get in anything, your never safe. They did not 'share' it. It was stolen, the hackers shared.

SkooL · #57 12-10-2001, 06:31 AM

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Originally posted by kp_p2p
yes but you didn't see the airports getting sued for the lack of security, they got more security now. Which is what graal needs. I'm not sticking up for anyone, I'm just saying if you try to sue it will be a good arguement. When all these major websites were hacked and credit card info was stolen.. The company of the webpage was not sued for it, hackers can get in anything, your never safe. They did not 'share' it. It was stolen, the hackers shared.

Don't you have to sign a wavier before going on a plane? I've never riden in one, but I think you do. I know that I never signed a waiver for the release of my personal information.

kp_p2p · #58 12-10-2001, 06:37 AM

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Originally posted by SkooL
Don't you have to sign a wavier before going on a plane? I've never riden in one, but I think you do. I know that I never signed a waiver for the release of my personal information.

I have never been in one either, so I do not know for sure.

Torankusu · #59 12-10-2001, 06:41 AM

It is called customer service. You want what is best for your customers so that they will most likely use your services again. However, graal, in the past as a whole, has showed that put their customers last, so I doubt they would willingly fix and fund for this.

If this is suited for courts, it has to be determined which court it would be held in. American or French?

SkooL · #60 12-10-2001, 06:46 AM

Better Business Bureau. <3

Beowulf2 · #61 12-10-2001, 10:02 AM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
It is called customer service. You want what is best for your customers so that they will most likely use your services again. However, graal, in the past as a whole, has showed that put their customers last, so I doubt they would willingly fix and fund for this.

If this is suited for courts, it has to be determined which court it would be held in. American or French?

Graal is a horribly-run service, and they do not deserve as many second chances as they've been getting. Someone needs to get them shut down. As for which court, I'd say American court, since it's our citizens that have been put in danger by this information.

T-Squad · #62 12-10-2001, 11:11 AM

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Originally posted by Beowulf2

Graal is a horribly-run service, and they do not deserve as many second chances as they've been getting. Someone needs to get them shut down. As for which court, I'd say American court, since it's our citizens that have been put in danger by this information.

Ha! We have a smart one here...

I'd like to see someone do something though. It would be decent if someone did, then I think graal (if they still are in buisness after a lawsuit) would have a little better service.

ninjaterd · #63 12-10-2001, 11:21 AM

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Originally posted by Beowulf2

Graal is a horribly-run service, and they do not deserve as many second chances as they've been getting. Someone needs to get them shut down. As for which court, I'd say American court, since it's our citizens that have been put in danger by this information.

wtf....if u want that to happen get the **** off the forums...get the **** off ALL cyberjours services and JUST DONT PLAY Graal at all. Frankly who gives a **** if someone sees were u live..........do u get scared shitless cause the post man comes past some days?

Iracious · #64 12-10-2001, 02:47 PM

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Originally posted by kp_p2p
yes but you didn't see the airports getting sued for the lack of security

Haha. You are an idiot. The airliners are getting their f'n pants sued off! Heck, the government had to restrict the help money from all the donations to the "help the families whom lost a loved one" thing because the airliners were being sued so much.

Iracious · #65 12-10-2001, 02:48 PM

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Originally posted by ninjaterd
wtf....if u want that to happen get the **** off the forums...get the **** off ALL cyberjours services and JUST DONT PLAY Graal at all. Frankly who gives a **** if someone sees were u live..........do u get scared shitless cause the post man comes past some days?

I want it to happen, but I still love Graal. Unlike some people without lives that can't spell for their life, I am not addicted to it, I can live without it.

AlkarenHyralt · #66 12-10-2001, 09:11 PM

I put all my personal information in for my thing. Real information. And it is out there, I know...friend showed me all of it

Providence_Admin3 · #67 12-10-2001, 09:42 PM

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Originally posted by ninjaterd

wtf....if u want that to happen get the **** off the forums...get the **** off ALL cyberjours services and JUST DONT PLAY Graal at all. Frankly who gives a **** if someone sees were u live..........do u get scared shitless cause the post man comes past some days?

He doesn't post, nor play Graal.

He only replied once. Please smarten up.

kp_p2p · #68 12-10-2001, 11:43 PM

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Originally posted by Iracious

Haha. You are an idiot. The airliners are getting their f'n pants sued off! Heck, the government had to restrict the help money from all the donations to the "help the families whom lost a loved one" thing because the airliners were being sued so much.

I have seen nothing in the news about it, Post me a site about the airlines "pants being sued off" because of sept 11th. Even if they are, just because I have not seen that anywhere yet, doesn't mean I'm an 'idiot'. Grow the hell up.