Most of you "role-players" sicken me

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ · #1 10-21-2002, 09:18 AM

I can't believe what I see.

I don't want to boast numbers, but I remember 3 weeks ago Dustai was, by far, the largest kingdom around. No contest. Then Bakugun came along and started recruiting en masse, and rivaled our powers and skills. Now I go on today and I find that there are barely any Bakugun online, nor Dustari, but all in Zormite. What's next? A mass migration to forest, then to pirates?

And I honestly can't believe how some head of states say how they are the ones that turned their kingdoms around. Impossible. There are just a bunch of stupid people doing stupid things, then they move on, like stupid nomads, and leech off of their next victim.

Don't tell me this because Dustari is somewhat in a period of dormancy, I saw this happen a lot on Graal 2001 as well. It's simply NOT fun at all! You've got disloyal bastards joining your kingdom, swearing "alliegiance" to you, then they run off and join another, until their purpose is served, then onto the next. They don't give a **** about their reputation, they're in it for the numbers and the power. If you got a "spiffier" title than in another kingdom, they run off to join them.

Stupid kingdom *****s like this are totally ruining Graal 2002. Thanks, you've turned it all into a big fad. Loyalty is most likely a thing of the past as long as you can fulfill your meager materialist posessions. This is why graal 2002 will never ever be a great role-playing place, because mindless idiots that want and want will fulfill any ends to achieve it.

You all disgust me. The end.

MilkyWay0016 · #2 10-21-2002, 09:26 AM

I think what many of us are thinking right now is: amen

Locke_boy · #3 10-21-2002, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MilkyWay0016
I think what many of us are thinking right now is: amen

Torankusu · #4 10-21-2002, 09:40 AM

I don't like it either. Which is why hardly any of my members will get any type of power, except for the ones who I trust, like FFusion, Stylez, and Zen.

zell12 · #5 10-21-2002, 09:59 AM

I would never leave Dustari or my Paladinship. But I can't go on Graal2002 to RP or even level up and play because my computer sucks

Qwert616 · #6 10-21-2002, 10:20 AM

Although I am sort of new to Role Playing, I was kind of upset from what I have seen, especially earlier today.

Ghost Pirate · #7 10-21-2002, 10:31 AM

Samurai and Forest is full of *****s
Dunno about Zormite I know theres a few idiots in that one

Dunno about Pirate myself they all seem good hehe

AlexH · #8 10-21-2002, 10:32 AM

Is there any way to get a list of a kingdoms members.
I know /kingdom list gives a list of the number of members.

Torankusu · #9 10-21-2002, 10:40 AM

Zormite Members:

Torankusu Emperor Sat Sep 21 01:30:51 2002
RealJuggernaut Sat Sep 21 02:45:04 2002
UNPTWOPWINNER Sat Sep 21 03:17:09 2002
Romeo2k Elder Sat Sep 21 17:13:06 2002
JudgeDurst Trademaster Sun Sep 22 00:53:57 2002
FFusion ArchMage Sun Sep 22 05:31:46 2002
LordZen Elder Wed Sep 25 01:25:44 2002
Googi Wed Sep 25 03:26:10 2002
Lacrosse211 Thu Sep 26 01:59:37 2002
HabiusCorpus Fri Oct 4 02:45:31 2002
IlyaDraven Sat Oct 5 01:08:48 2002
Zelta Spellcaster Sun Oct 6 20:26:00 2002
payne314 Spellcaster Sun Oct 6 21:02:02 2002
alteringreality Swordsman Sun Oct 6 21:34:06 2002
xxRamzaxx Mon Oct 7 02:46:02 2002
miraigoten Mon Oct 7 03:12:41 2002
peeky Conscript Mon Oct 7 04:04:34 2002
chatOmatic101 Mon Oct 7 04:05:20 2002
lei-pin Scientist Wed Oct 9 00:56:20 2002
user13-xo Adept Wed Oct 9 01:29:19 2002
SupermanJR Wed Oct 9 01:29:50 2002
ness0123456789 Sentry Thu Oct 10 01:50:19 2002
Tranas_Scythe Wizard Thu Oct 10 01:52:37 2002
s3x4dd1ct Fri Oct 11 03:37:01 2002
Lord_Sutekh Adept Sat Oct 12 21:39:23 2002
Palin Sun Oct 13 08:33:35 2002
PzykoPunk Spellcaster Mon Oct 14 16:42:00 2002
GrEaT_l0sEr_0nE Thu Oct 17 02:16:20 2002
Legondary_MyTH Adept Fri Oct 18 02:09:20 2002
Uifz Outlaw Sat Oct 19 00:44:51 2002
sammer Conscript Sat Oct 19 08:56:44 2002
Dark_Ninja_Tenoki Conscript Sat Oct 19 23:22:20 2002
fifi-nono Citizen Sat Oct 19 23:31:55 2002
Good_Ol_Daze Sun Oct 20 00:01:46 2002
GreTheMage Outlaw Sun Oct 20 01:12:52 2002
R0bin Citizen Sun Oct 20 01:15:59 2002
EternalDestiny Conscript Sun Oct 20 18:19:07 2002
NewbieKilla15 Wizard Sun Oct 20 18:22:14 2002
boukon_malisous Sentry Sun Oct 20 19:14:18 2002
AlexH Spellcaster Sun Oct 20 20:27:23 2002
wonderboysp2p Merchant Sun Oct 20 22:33:00 2002
BeZeRkEr Adept Sun Oct 20 22:37:30 2002
Qwert616 Citizen Sun Oct 20 23:33:25 2002
copomo Outlaw Sun Oct 20 23:41:35 2002
Chumbles Adept Mon Oct 21 02:11:41 2002
jc15821 Swordsman Mon Oct 21 02:41:05 2002

Locke_boy · #10 10-21-2002, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ghost Pirate
Samurai and Forest is full of *****s

I resent that. You shouldn't make such a generalization.

magicbud3344 · #11 10-21-2002, 10:59 AM

kingdoms should be stricter about letting people join, but then again i see some kingdoms mass messaging PM ME THIS INFO TO JOIN =\
Pirates + Karakaze 4 lyf

graaliholic · #12 10-21-2002, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Now I go on today and I find that there are barely any Bakugun online, nor Dustari, but all in Zormite. [/B]

I realized there was more in Zormite, but i never thought about it like that

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ · #13 10-21-2002, 12:19 PM

This isn't a trend new to graal 2002, think back to Graal 2001

A lot of people are simple idiots who do nothing more than leech. They want to join a larger kingdom, bomb their superiors with PM's and messages so they can get a better rank in hopes of one day achieving ultimate power and then have the ability to control a large group or members. I mean, no one likes to lead 3 people, better to lead 100 people that yield to their demands, right?

However, if they get impatient, they decide to quit the kingdom and join a new one, and repeat the process over again. This is why you'll see within a few weeks Zormite numbers die down, then numbers in another kingdom skyrocket again. It's a terrible cycle and makes role-playing absolutely not fun at all.

This is not the Zormites fault by the way, it's just the way things are, sadly.

Crovax_Dark_Lord · #14 10-21-2002, 02:43 PM

Its a problem thats hard to solve, perhaps that idea, you should pay to join a kingdom, would help, or when you reach a certain rank you have to swear alligance, preventing them from changing kingdoms for a week.
I'm just throwing ideas around, anyone else with better ones?

Kaimetsu · #15 10-21-2002, 02:53 PM

It'd be NICE if the kingdom LEADERS had MEMBERSHIP CRITERIA other than 'You must have at least ONE X CHROMOSOME'.

konidias · #16 10-21-2002, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kaimetsu
It'd be NICE if the kingdom LEADERS had MEMBERSHIP CRITERIA other than 'You must have at least ONE X CHROMOSOME'.

IQ tests aren't much good though... because people cheat those, lol. You'd have to like personally quiz each person and throw random questions at them.

MilkyWay0016 · #17 10-21-2002, 05:48 PM

We should all get together and make a list of known kingdom hoppers, and ban them from joining our kingdoms (at least untill they reform or whatever 0.o)

BlKnight · #18 10-21-2002, 07:11 PM

It's annoying, but on the same topic weren't you the one who didn't care if kingdoms were unbalanced?

It's a known fact that people want to try new things. They join dustari because it's up and running. Than they want to see zormite etc.

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ · #19 10-22-2002, 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BlKnight
It's annoying, but on the same topic weren't you the one who didn't care if kingdoms were unbalanced?

It's a known fact that people want to try new things. They join dustari because it's up and running. Than they want to see zormite etc.

This isn't a "try and buy" thing. The players should know the platform of each of the kingdom leaders and the kingdoms, then join acordingly. I have no problem with people leaving for RP purposes and joining another kingdom, but basically people are just dropping and running to other kingdoms with no reasonable explanation. This is ludacris, and you've got to be a complete idiot to think that this is legitimate role-playing.

Kingdoms are never good unbalanced, and quite frankly, role-playing on Graal 2002 at this point is non exsistant. Here is why

1) It's too lengthy to get to kingdom isles.
2) People are more interested in getting SSJ rings of power and gaining plats to buy SSJ things.
3) How can you possibly have a suitable war on such a vast map? Just getting together for a bettle would certainly take a long time.

BlKnight · #20 10-22-2002, 03:15 AM

It's not good rping. As well I am not an idiot. What I am saying is it is kind of strange how when the other kingdoms complained that everybody was joining dustari and everything will be unequal you were angry and said that it's not their fault everybody likes dustari. Now when there are fewer people, you are angry that another kingdom has so many people.

It's another known fact that people get bored. People switch classes, people make new characters, people switch kingdoms.

aylad · #21 10-22-2002, 05:41 AM

I am sickened not by kingdom-hoppers, but by people who "RP" a character who acts like a 20th-century American, 5 years old, with an IQ of about 23.

I constantly see people from Bakugun and sometimes Pirates or even Dustari running around, WITH their kingdom tags and ranks, WITH their full RP names, and not even bothering to pretend to roleplay. I haven't seen many problems with Zormite yet, although I'm sure there have been. From what I've seen, Forest *seems* to be the most consistent RP kingdom, although admittedly I don't see Forest folk much except in toguilds. I do know at least one Orc who NEVER RP's and probably couldn't if his life depended on it, but I won't flame in this post.

I don't care if people want to be OOC, but they should take off their tags, and everyone who is not RPing should at least respect those who do. Some third-grader running up to me, pressing A, and committing obscene acts just because I have the long hairstyle that women usually get, EVEN THOUGH I'M CLEARLY MALE, is not RPing -- is not respecting my RP -- is not treating me like a human being -- and should really grow up.

This applies even to kingdom leaders. coughcoughGhost. I'm not flaming, I'm simply pointing out that even kings fail to take off tags when going OOC. (He didn't do the "humping" thing, he just made one brief comment about the hair).

I really do get ticked about this. IRL, I have short hair, but seriously..... how many of you have never in your life seen a long-haired man? Did you run up and start rubbing on him and calling him a girl? Act mature, for once. Respect my character.

BlKnight · #22 10-22-2002, 06:04 AM

People with Head Advisor Name -BRAVO LEGEND- (Dustai) sicken me.

EliteDeath · #23 10-22-2002, 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by _0AfTeRsHoCk0_
I can't believe what I see.

I don't want to boast numbers, but I remember 3 weeks ago Dustai was, by far, the largest kingdom around. No contest. Then Bakugun came along and started recruiting en masse, and rivaled our powers and skills. Now I go on today and I find that there are barely any Bakugun online, nor Dustari, but all in Zormite. What's next? A mass migration to forest, then to pirates?

And I honestly can't believe how some head of states say how they are the ones that turned their kingdoms around. Impossible. There are just a bunch of stupid people doing stupid things, then they move on, like stupid nomads, and leech off of their next victim.

Don't tell me this because Dustari is somewhat in a period of dormancy, I saw this happen a lot on Graal 2001 as well. It's simply NOT fun at all! You've got disloyal bastards joining your kingdom, swearing "alliegiance" to you, then they run off and join another, until their purpose is served, then onto the next. They don't give a **** about their reputation, they're in it for the numbers and the power. If you got a "spiffier" title than in another kingdom, they run off to join them.

Stupid kingdom *****s like this are totally ruining Graal 2002. Thanks, you've turned it all into a big fad. Loyalty is most likely a thing of the past as long as you can fulfill your meager materialist posessions. This is why graal 2002 will never ever be a great role-playing place, because mindless idiots that want and want will fulfill any ends to achieve it.

You all disgust me. The end.

Erm why not set a flag to each player, if they have the flag of a diff kingdom make it so they can't join another without officially quitting?

EliteDeath · #24 10-22-2002, 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by konidias

IQ tests aren't much good though... because people cheat those, lol. You'd have to like personally quiz each person and throw random questions at them.

So bloody do it.

graaliholic · #25 10-22-2002, 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by aylad
I constantly see people from Bakugun and sometimes Pirates or even Dustari running around, WITH their kingdom tags and ranks, WITH their full RP names, and not even bothering to pretend to roleplay

They just want to get the "toguild:" messages so they can keep up with what people in the kingdom are doing, or maybe they're waiting for someone in the guild (like the king) to come online. As for running arround with their ranks, Most are built into the tag. :o

Kaimetsu · #26 10-22-2002, 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by konidias

IQ tests aren't much good though... because people cheat those, lol. You'd have to like personally quiz each person and throw random questions at them.

It's not like we need an exact figure. We just need to watch out for things like:

Guy: hi rolfolf can u leme join ur kidgdom?
Leader: Sure!

Ghost Pirate · #27 10-22-2002, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kaimetsu

It's not like we need an exact figure. We just need to watch out for things like:

Guy: hi rolfolf can u leme join ur kidgdom?
Leader: Sure!

I for one don't do that sorta thing

Ghost Pirate · #28 10-22-2002, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by aylad

This applies even to kingdom leaders. coughcoughGhost. I'm not flaming, I'm simply pointing out that even kings fail to take off tags when going OOC. (He didn't do the "humping" thing, he just made one brief comment about the hair).

Just because I commented about the hair doesn't mean I wasn't roleplaying =)

gozenkenkaku · #29 10-22-2002, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by magicbud3344
Karakaze 4 lyf

You know it brother, I am thinking REUNION SPECIAL!

konidias · #30 10-22-2002, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kaimetsu

It's not like we need an exact figure. We just need to watch out for things like:

Guy: hi rolfolf can u leme join ur kidgdom?
Leader: Sure!

Spelling properly and using correct grammar doesn't mean squat if the player can't roleplay to save their life.

Kaimetsu · #31 10-22-2002, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by konidias

Spelling properly and using correct grammar doesn't mean squat if the player can't roleplay to save their life.

True, but they should be considered. I'm not saying that they should be the only factor but:

Terrible Spelling/Grammer => Idiot => DO NOT RECRUIT

Sure, you can administer other tests after that, but I think it should be one of the first.

user13-xo · #32 10-22-2002, 02:52 PM

The only kingdom I have joined is Zormite. I was in Zormite on g2k1 and now g2k2.

Why are people allowed to join more then one kingdom? Unless im mistaken

BlKnight · #33 10-22-2002, 07:30 PM

If there was a test like that I would fail it.

Take a look at my other messages, you will see typos beyond counting.

Or do you mean people who use short forms and abrevations and bad slang?

BTW I made 3 typos typing this. But as i was about to click the submit button I decided to recheck.

Graal518 · #34 10-22-2002, 09:40 PM

I think this is one of the reasons why I never took part in Graal Role Play. From what I see, it's way too disorganized . Part of the blame DOES fall on some of the leaders for allowing this mess. And to the players who like to kingdom jump:

WAKE THE **** UP! It's not like you can just up and keep changing kingdoms. That is bad roleplay. If you're thinking about being a kingdom hopper, you might as well not be in a kingdom AT ALL. I don't know all too much about what is on 2k2.. Don't they have some kind of nomadic or neutral setting for the players to select? I'm not sure...I've not been on much at all.

To sum it up: If you have joined a said kingdom, stick with it. Unless your character has a valid reason and not some crap like... "omy this keengdam si leetier thne thsi 1 lolorolf!"

And finally... Many loev for good ol' Free Form Text RP. *sighs nostalgically.*

Crovax_Dark_Lord · #35 10-23-2002, 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by _0AfTeRsHoCk0_

2) People are more interested in getting SSJ rings of power and gaining plats to buy SSJ things.

To few people actually get the 'SSJ rings of power', I have 5 'SSJ rings of power' whats wrong with my rings, perhaps I like my 'SSJ rings of power'... I'm saving up for a 'SSJ' ring of combat... BUT I am different because my RP history conviently fits in with my money hoarding

/edit I cannot spell for toffee... I know...

Locke_boy · #36 10-23-2002, 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Crovax_Dark_Lord

To few people actually get the 'SSJ rings of power', I have 5 'SSJ rings of power' whats wrong with my rings, perhaps I like my 'SSJ rings of power'... I'm saving up for a 'SSJ' ring of combat... BUT I am different because my RP history conviently fits in with my money hoarding
/edit I cannot spell for toffee... I know...

I'm saving up for some SSJ Rings of Thieves .. :: powers up ::

Birdbird_0 · #37 10-23-2002, 02:44 AM

im not in a kingdom yet :O

zell12 · #38 10-23-2002, 02:55 AM

They are not organized because they are not finished. Jesus people.

-Axel- · #39 10-23-2002, 03:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by aylad
I constantly see people from Bakugun and sometimes Pirates or even Dustari running around, WITH their kingdom tags and ranks, WITH their full RP names, and not even bothering to pretend to roleplay. I haven't seen many problems with Zormite yet, although I'm sure there have been. From what I've seen, Forest *seems* to be the most consistent RP kingdom, although admittedly I don't see Forest folk much except in toguilds. I do know at least one Orc who NEVER RP's and probably couldn't if his life depended on it, but I won't flame in this post.

The person you named is not the only one.

-Axel- · #40 10-23-2002, 03:07 AM

Oh, and Zormite isn't high and mightly aswell.

*Sadly has many of these for each kingdom*

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