Um.....place your bets?

[Hulk Hogan]

"New RC: Birdbird_0
Birdbird_0: hi
Admin Msg: Administrator Birdbird_0:
Ok, last time you guys will see me on graal k? I suck at everyting I do and Get hated for doing alot, alot of people keep on hating me, well, it finaly got to me, I just get spit on and run over and everything I do gets blown up in my face, well, I had enough, bye guys.
RC disconnected: Birdbird_0
Hulk Hogan: kk birdo"

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How long til you guys think he back? a couple hours?

[psihunter]

Originally posted by Hulk Hogan
"New RC: Birdbird_0
Birdbird_0: hi
Admin Msg: Administrator Birdbird_0:
Ok, last time you guys will see me on graal k? I suck at everyting I do and Get hated for doing alot, alot of people keep on hating me, well, it finaly got to me, I just get spit on and run over and everything I do gets blown up in my face, well, I had enough, bye guys.
RC disconnected: Birdbird_0
Hulk Hogan: kk birdo"

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How long til you guys think he back? a couple hours?

I dunno

[Hyped]

I wub the birdbird, I dont want him to go.

[Hulk Hogan]

Originally posted by psihunter


I dunno

:-\

you can do better at gfx than that!

[FatherDante]

1hour is my bet. That's how long it was last time.

Leave for Pete's sake, Birdbird.

[Torankusu]

hopefully he won't.

I asked him a question related to transparency like the ones on his zalactid hud lcd things and he tells me to go away.

[Domini]

nastazio: I am on the phone with birdbird, he is my good friend, i don't want to see him go. Toran, your a *****.

[Admins]

Um birdbird did so much stuff for Graal2001,
it would be a big loss if he leaves

[Hulk Hogan]

Originally posted by FatherDante
1hour is my bet. That's how long it was last time.

Leave for Pete's sake, Birdbird.

I'm guessing if he's not back by Saturday then it will be maybe a week or two until we see him again?

I HIGHLY doubt he could stay away actually....

[konidias]

He told me he is tired of the anguish.. He said he doesn't get anything but hate and no one appreciates what he does for graal.. and he said people like torankusu are the worst ones..

Then he gave me his house and left

[psihunter]

Originally posted by Stefan
Um birdbird did so much stuff for Graal2001,
it would be a big loss if he leaves

So true....

Stefan make a memorial if he is really gone for good!

[FatherDante]

Yeah, a good monument would be tile definition NPC with his name in it instead of those 20 million tree graphics in the underground lake. :o

[Torankusu]

Originally posted by konidias
He told me he is tired of the anguish.. He said he doesn't get anything but hate and no one appreciates what he does for graal.. and he said people like torankusu are the worst ones..

Then he gave me his house and left

Of course I am the worst one. It seems like I am the only one that speaks up around here. The rest of the players just hide under rocks.

[psihunter]

Originally posted by Torankusu
Of course I am the worst one. It seems like I am the only one that speaks up around here. The rest of the players just hide under rocks.

I dunno about that
But I like Birdbirds work

I was the only one that really supported him when he released UnderGround lake

[konidias]

Originally posted by Torankusu
Of course I am the worst one. It seems like I am the only one that speaks up around here. The rest of the players just hide under rocks.

You do nothing but give negative feedback to some of the staff.. How are we supposed to feel when everything we do for Graal gets thrown in our face by you because you like destroying the little good that is left in Graal.

If I wasn't so dedicated in staying here to help out you would have drove me away long ago.. Now look who is making Graal loser players.

[Torankusu]

It's people like konidias that are making me want to leave and have my money refunded.

They get all huffy puffy when people complain about something (admin house, whatever,) and go "well some people like it." That is just the thing. If not everyone likes it, It should be improved/editted until everyone, or next to everyone likes it.

Like the tileset issue(s): Stefan shows he is always open for constructive critisism, but konidias just blows you off and says your opinion doesn't matter when you say you don't like something he made.

[Torankusu]

Originally posted by psihunter


I dunno about that
But I like Birdbirds work

I was the only one that really supported him when he released UnderGround lake

I shot a fireball, and he died, and jailed me for around 3 hours.

[konidias]

You can't make everybody happy.. The only reason I don't listen to your opinion is because they are all negative.. you don't like one thing about my tileset, you can't compliment any of the work I have done.. it's just complaining.

I want feedback that I can work with not "Your trees suck, graal was better without you"

[FatherDante]

Originally posted by konidias
If I wasn't so dedicated in staying here to help out you would have drove me away long ago.. Now look who is making Graal loser players.

If I wasn't such a considerate person, I would comment on how you describe yourself.

[cds96]

sad birdie

[Brad2]

graal really sucks

[Torankusu]

Originally posted by konidias


You do nothing but give negative feedback to some of the staff..

Constructive critisism. Learn to accept and build from it.

If I wasn't so dedicated in staying here to help out you would have drove me away long ago..[/B]

Driven. It is Driven. Not drove.

Now look who's making graal lose players...

It has nothing to do with me. Making a tileset that is unattractive and makes classic look really bad won't really make alot of people want to upgrade. Think about it; If the Classic server, one that has alot of people that upgrade playing on it, looks horrible with the new tileset, what will they think Graal2001 will look like?

[Hulk Hogan]

oh no .

One more little negative fight and i'm deleteing this thread

[Domini]

Dont close it let people speak their minds about this matter....

[konidias]

Originally posted by Torankusu

Constructive critisism. Learn to accept and build from it.




Driven. It is Driven. Not drove.



It has nothing to do with me. Making a tileset that is unattractive and makes classic look really bad won't really make alot of people want to upgrade. Think about it; If the Classic server, one that has alot of people that upgrade playing on it, looks horrible with the new tileset, what will they think Graal2001 will look like?

Why is it that stefan and unixmad say they like my work, people posted threads when the tileset came out like "wow look how much better the tileset makes this server look" Then you sit there and tell me it completely sucks and drives away customers.. where is the logic?

[kyle0654]

Originally posted by Torankusu

Constructive critisism. Learn to accept and build from it.

Oye...it doesn't help build if you don't tell them what's wrong in a way that's not personally attacking.

I see why Birdbird left......haven't seen much of him for a while either...I'd have at least liked to say goodbye

[Jerom]

Originally posted by konidias



Why is it that stefan and unixmad say they like my work, people posted threads when the tileset came out like "wow look how much better the tileset makes this server look" Then you sit there and tell me it completely sucks and drives away customers.. where is the logic?

It's not all of your tiles that suck, just a selected few make the rest of the tileset look like pig pooo.
Quak!

[Torankusu]

Originally posted by konidias
You can't make everybody happy.. The only reason I don't listen to your opinion is because they are all negative.. you don't like one thing about my tileset, you can't compliment any of the work I have done.. it's just complaining.

I want feedback that I can work with not "Your trees suck, graal was better without you"

Okay then:

A few of the only things I like about the tileset is the new houses, and the snow-related tiles.

The trees look really jumbled and are too dark/bright. (Depends.) The roads look OKAY, but they are too not-road like. The other ones looked better. Most of the new tiles have too much of a dark appearence. Brighten it up. It makes it more attractive.


The market place was an OK idea, but it's caused alot of commotion in the past month(s) or so it's been up. Other than that, it has been a great thing released into graal.

Snow cones: I guess it's worth it to take forever to use 6 apples, that later go into 21 gralats.

[Admins]

Yes konidias, toran doesn't like the graphics and
then thinks no one likes it, but most people like it
much more than the old one which is nostalgic but not
really very nice looking.

[Torankusu]

Originally posted by konidias



Why is it that stefan and unixmad say they like my work, people posted threads when the tileset came out like "wow look how much better the tileset makes this server look" Then you sit there and tell me it completely sucks and drives away customers.. where is the logic?

What the hell are you talking about? Was this in your dreams? EVOLVE, SOMEONE WHO PLAYED CLASSIC, POSTED ABOUT 2-3 THREADS THAT STEFAN POSTED IN.

I don't remember any "LOOK At thIS TLESSET IT ROX" when they were referring to yours...

[Jerom]

Originally posted by Stefan
Yes konidias, toran doesn't like the graphics and
then thinks no one likes it, but most people like it
much more than the old one which is nostalgic but not
really very nice looking.

well now that you're paying attention...
Instead of replacing the already fit tiles... don't you think it would be a much better idea to just ADD ONTO the tileset?

[Torankusu]

Originally posted by Stefan
Yes konidias, toran doesn't like the graphics and
then thinks no one likes it, but most people like it
much more than the old one which is nostalgic but not
really very nice looking.

Sorry, but read my post, please.

[konidias]

Originally posted by Torankusu
Okay then:

A few of the only things I like about the tileset is the new houses, and the snow-related tiles.

The trees look really jumbled and are too dark/bright. (Depends.) The roads look OKAY, but they are too not-road like. The other ones looked better. Most of the new tiles have too much of a dark appearence. Brighten it up. It makes it more attractive.


The market place was an OK idea, but it's caused alot of commotion in the past month(s) or so it's been up. Other than that, it has been a great thing released into graal.

Snow cones: I guess it's worth it to take forever to use 6 apples, that later go into 21 gralats.

THANK YOU
That is the first decent reply on my work you have made since I have been working here.

[Admins]

Originally posted by Jerom

well now that you're paying attention...
Instead of replacing the already fit tiles... don't you think it would be a much better idea to just ADD ONTO the tileset?

Why not taking the better graphics instead of the
old ones? When we have added grass with more than
just 1 color there were also people complaining, but
after some time the old screenshots looked really
crappy.

[psihunter]

KONIDIAS SPACE TILESET
STEFAN GRAAL2230 TEST SERVER =X!

[Admins]

The only thing I don't like yet about the new tiles
is the house roof, don't know

[Torankusu]

Originally posted by Stefan


Why not taking the better graphics instead of the
old ones? When we have added grass with more than
just 1 color there were also people complaining, but
after some time the old screenshots looked really
crappy.

Agreed.

Let me go into more detail on the trees:
They are too hard to find the tile errors.

[konidias]

Originally posted by Stefan
The only thing I don't like yet about the new tiles
is the house roof, don't know

Stefan check your forum pm's like.. 3 days ago I sent you a small preview of my NEW tileset.. not the one on graal now.. but completely new.

[Jerom]

Originally posted by Stefan


Why not taking the better graphics instead of the
old ones? When we have added grass with more than
just 1 color there were also people complaining, but
after some time the old screenshots looked really
crappy.

Well yes, we could take the better graphics in, and add them onto the tileset as long as they fit the Graal tileset in general.
This will give level makers a much bigger variety of tiles to choose from when making levels. Which means that levels will have more detail and will be unique.

[Lyndzey]

The only good tileset I have ever seen is Faheria's...Kon did an awesome job on the ice tiles though. Although I dislike Birdbird for massing out with his RC a lot, I still like him. I don't like how he abuses warpto, but hell, NL did it all the time (who is finally gone)...I wish people would be able to get along for a change.