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Old 06-18-2001, 10:27 PM
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Let me tell you: Reading scripts that other people have made is the worst way to learn to script.
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Old 06-18-2001, 10:30 PM
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it helps me to understand the basics, like commands and such, I couldnt script for my life!
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But it's far better to develop your own style and if you use scripts belonging to other people then you never really work at your own level. You're always trying to understand an advanced script when you're not at that level or something similar. Plus what if that person has bad habits? What if you spend more time figuring out what they're doing than actually learning? Trust me, going solo is far better. That's how I learned and I'd say I did quite well for myself.
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the first time I made a script, all my friends laughed about how stupid it was....
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Old 06-18-2001, 11:14 PM
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the first time I made a script, all my friends laughed about how stupid it was....
Well, big deal. If you wanna script, just do it. Don't bother about other people.
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Old 06-19-2001, 12:59 AM
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Eh. The only server with different races that's good is Valikorlia. Of course, we all know what happened to Valikorlia, right? Still, I liked Slimers and Dragons. ^_^
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Old 06-19-2001, 01:02 AM
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God I wish I could script. I am trying to script a new race for the server I'm doing,but It's too hard.
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someone should resurect Val.... make all the RPers go there...
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God I wish I could script. I am trying to script a new race for the server I'm doing,but It's too hard.
Scripting is easy if you have the right kind of brain. I would say that making good graphics is difficult, but TrueHeaT would probably beg to differ.
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Ehh. They're all working on making Valikorlia better. Of course, the NPCServer tore Val apart anyways. I mean, I implore ANY of you to go to Val and try and use the Run Skill, if you have it. It doesn't work. Lots of NPCs don't work, it really sucks. Heh.
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people keep telling me that I would be a good programer/scripter but I just dont have the will power

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Scripting is easy if you have the right kind of brain. I would say that making good graphics is difficult, but TrueHeaT would probably beg to differ.
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Old 06-19-2001, 01:08 AM
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Scripting is easy if you have the right kind of brain. I would say that making good graphics is difficult, but TrueHeaT would probably beg to differ.
How did you learn to script anyway? I only know basic stuff,When I started I just read through all the commands on the little list,and tried them. But I still don't know how to do half the stuff you can.
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someone needs to right a Graalscript instructional book
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Old 06-19-2001, 01:17 AM
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How did you learn to script anyway? I only know basic stuff,When I started I just read through all the commands on the little list,and tried them. But I still don't know how to do half the stuff you can.
This is my scripting journey from day 1:

I read the commands list to the right of the window. It had lots of complicated stuff in so I ran away and start instead to look at the prewritten stuff (just the showcharacter things). "Hmm," I thought, and started changing things. Sure enough, my changes had a real effect in the game. "By golly!" I thought, "It does work!"

Spurred on, I tried inserting a command in, selected from the menu. Again, it did what I expected. "So," I thought. "I can put anything in here and it will be executed upon the NPC's creation..."

So, I looked through the list and found lots of cool stuff. Every time I found something interesting, I tested it and delighted in seeing the effects (For example: "Hmm... 'putexplosion' sounds interesting... *BOOM* ...Yay!").

Finally I started stringing them together. Copying the basis of the standard weapon scripts, I made a lil' thingy that hid the player and showed a sign gif where they were. It was a pretty poor "disguise" script, but I loved it all the same. I worked at it and learned lots of new stuff in the process, always returning to commands.rtf.

Eventually, before I knew it, I was scripting races and complex weapons. Even still, I learn a lot every day. But that's what scripting is about, right?
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Old 06-19-2001, 01:18 AM
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someone needs to right a Graalscript instructional book
No. Because you can either talk over 50% of players' head, or under the other 50%'s. I keep saying over and over: Scripting is not about learning from a book.
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Old 06-19-2001, 01:20 AM
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thats how I learned most of the scriptiing I know, someone telling me
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Old 06-19-2001, 01:29 AM
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same with me kai..for those who dont know i started around 1.4, and even though that wasnt long ago at all, i still am a good scripter (better then the average person)...youve basicly gotto have the right mind to do it, and be able to put things together nicely....i always went to Shadow Dragons site and learned from scripts they had, and looked at lots of different NPCs, and soon enough my scriptng ability surpassed those scripts, so i started looking at better scripts (like kyles bank card)...thats basicly the level im at right now, although you cant give an EXACT level or number to someones scripting ability
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Old 06-19-2001, 01:31 AM
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I hate when people brag about how well they can script and say they are better then most people, it makes me loose respect for them
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Old 06-19-2001, 01:31 AM
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making graphics is hard.. i'm still not very good at all
I want to be as good as the guys at SNK =\
I'm no good with shading or perspective heh
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making graphics is hard.. i'm still not very good at all
I want to be as good as the guys at SNK =\
I'm no good with shading or perspective heh
Byeh. I'd just like to be as good as my 5 yr old sister.

Disclaimer: Kaimetsu does not have a 5 yr old sister. He lied just to get a point across.
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I hate when people brag about how well they can script and say they are better then most people, it makes me loose respect for them
I sometimes do that without thinking about it. I usually kick myself afterwards.
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I sometimes do that without thinking about it. I usually kick myself afterwards.
yea
but your not like IM BETTR THEN ALL
like some people *cough* t-squad *cough*
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its hard to kick your self, my leg doesnt bend that way
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its hard to kick your self, my leg doesnt bend that way
I can kick myself in the shoulder without bending my leg. Fact.
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*is confused*
how is that possible?
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Kai is probably really fat, if he moves his foot he is probably kicking something!
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how is that possible?
Super-crazy flexibility. You try: stand up. Take your right leg and give it an experimental swing forward. Now swing it so that it's completely vertical and it thuds into your shoulder. Bingo.

And no, I'm not fat. I think I weigh 145lbs.
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yea
but your not like IM BETTR THEN ALL
like some people *cough* t-squad *cough*
have i ever said im better then Kai or Kyle?
only time i say that is when i see a n00b scripter say the all mighty in script, then i get the sudden urge to strike them down with my mighty scripting powers...then theres a possibility of Kai striking me down....and thats the reason you dont attempt to strike better scripters down, cause then they counter with a 896875785 x betterly strikingerly power....
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Ice pick sells scripts....
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erm

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Those scripts are only meant to
be used by upgraded playerworlds.
Other people will not be able to use
it anyway since they work only on the
npcserver, so stop giving them out
or playerworlds will not get npcservers
anymore.
If you take away their npc servers, then what's the point of staying p2p, I thought that was what got people to want to make their servers p2p, because no offense, but any server that goes p2p goes six feet under, and you can't say every p2p server (with the exception of G2K1 of course) is dead, well, just my two cents..

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Re: erm

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If you take away their npc servers, then what's the point of staying p2p, I thought that was what got people to want to make their servers p2p, because no offense, but any server that goes p2p goes six feet under, and you can't say every p2p server (with the exception of G2K1 of course) is dead, well, just my two cents..

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STAFEN/STEFAN!!

STAFEN/STEFAN:

WOULDNT POSTING A COPYRIGHTED IMAGE WITHOUT CREDITTING THE COMPANY THAT OWNS IT CONSTITUTE ILLEGAL ACTIVITY TOO??

STAFEN, PLEASE USE YOUR BRAIN!!!
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Re: STAFEN/STEFAN!!

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STAFEN/STEFAN:

WOULDNT POSTING A COPYRIGHTED IMAGE WITHOUT CREDITTING THE COMPANY THAT OWNS IT CONSTITUTE ILLEGAL ACTIVITY TOO??

STAFEN, PLEASE USE YOUR BRAIN!!!
no
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Actually Tybalt, it would.
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that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard
that's like us using graphics from graal in our signatures and it being illegal
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Old 06-19-2001, 05:42 AM
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that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard
that's like us using graphics from graal in our signatures and it being illegal
But im sure Stefan is perfectly fine with us using Graal images since its the official Graal board.


also, stupid? perhaps, but it stops you from claiming Squares Chrono Trigger graphics are yours, or Capcom's Ryu images are yours....I don't think laws are stupid, maybe they just seem like that to children.
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have you ever heard of capcom pressing charges for someone having Ryu in their signature and not saying IMAGE BY CAPCOM INC blah blah?
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No, but that doesnt stop it from being illegal.

have you heard of anyone arrested for J-Walking? Perhaps yes, but i bet its really rare. Its still illegal.
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oh god what the hell do you care anyway
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Well I don't really care....
But if Square came on here and found this wealth of Stolen Square graphics, they could get mad at you and Stafen/Stefan
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