Linux Improvements

[ZeroTrack]

I am strickly using linux and i am very dissapointed, first off i the main clinet is way too laggy and should be switched to the normal windows version clinet, second the Linux RC need to be finshed it would be a huge help, i run the wine one right now using r0bins configuration found here http://r0bin.net/oldsite/linux but i cannot see pm's, playersnames, nc weapon names or db npc names.... if your a primarily linux based company how come this wasnt taken care of long ago?

[Dach]

It's not completely done yet

[Python523]

Originally posted by ZeroTrack
I am strickly using linux and i am very dissapointed, first off i the main clinet is way too laggy and should be switched to the normal windows version clinet, second the Linux RC need to be finshed it would be a huge help, i run the wine one right now using r0bins configuration found here http://r0bin.net/oldsite/linux but i cannot see pm's, playersnames, nc weapon names or db npc names.... if your a primarily linux based company how come this wasnt taken care of long ago?

First off, learn to complain. You get no where by being like this, don't they teach you how to write a business letter in English classes? Since when did the world become so rude and annoying.

Also, maybe you should start blaming yourself, linux graal runs fine for me, maybe you should use deductive reason, you know, the thing where you put two and two together and come to a conclusion, let us walk through the thought process of what should have happened in your mind!
'hmm, this is running slow'
'hmm, graal uses a lot of graphic things'
'hmm, maybe I should see if my graphic drivers are updated!'
'hmm, as a linux user who should know what they're doing and know a lot about linux, I should know that a lot of graphic card companies make drivers that aren't open source and don't want others distrubuting them!'
'hmm, I can conclude that the graphic drivers linux installed for me could possibly be open-sourced ones made by hackers but they aren't the real thing and thus most likely wont work as well!'
'hmm, maybe I should check my graphic card company's webside and see if they have drivers!!!'
'hmm, if all else fails, then maybe I should KINDLY ask these wonderful forum people for help!'

[Lance]

Originally posted by ZeroTrack
I am strickly using linux and i am very dissapointed,

I'm sorry to hear that.

first off i the main clinet is way too laggy and should be switched to the normal windows version clinet,

Do you have any idea of what you are talking about? Such a task wouldn't be easy at all, considering the windows client is written in Delphi, and v3 is written in C++. Do a bit of research on Delphi, and you'll figure out why.

second the Linux RC need to be finshed it would be a huge help,

It's being worked on.

if your a primarily linux based company how come this wasnt taken care of long ago?

A wise author once wrote: A rose by any other name would smell as sweet.

[URBANLEGEND]

Originally posted by Python523


Since when did the world become so rude and annoying.

About 10 years ago

[ZeroTrack]

Originally posted by Python523


First off, learn to complain. You get no where by being like this, don't they teach you how to write a business letter in English classes? Since when did the world become so rude and annoying.

Also, maybe you should start blaming yourself, linux graal runs fine for me, maybe you should use deductive reason, you know, the thing where you put two and two together and come to a conclusion, let us walk through the thought process of what should have happened in your mind!
'hmm, this is running slow'
'hmm, graal uses a lot of graphic things'
'hmm, maybe I should see if my graphic drivers are updated!'
'hmm, as a linux user who should know what they're doing and know a lot about linux, I should know that a lot of graphic card companies make drivers that aren't open source and don't want others distrubuting them!'
'hmm, I can conclude that the graphic drivers linux installed for me could possibly be open-sourced ones made by hackers but they aren't the real thing and thus most likely wont work as well!'
'hmm, maybe I should check my graphic card company's webside and see if they have drivers!!!'
'hmm, if all else fails, then maybe I should KINDLY ask these wonderful forum people for help!'

this isnt a business letter #1 #2, my gfx drivers for my laptop are installed correctly. by saying swtiching it to the windows version one i meen the reg gfx style one not this enhanced gui laggy pos ... all it is is eye candy its not worth all the extra lag the mouse alone moves super slow and my player takes a good min or so to take even 1 step....

[Python523]

Originally posted by ZeroTrack


this isnt a business letter #1 #2, my gfx drivers for my laptop are installed correctly. by saying swtiching it to the windows version one i meen the reg gfx style one not this enhanced gui laggy pos ... all it is is eye candy its not worth all the extra lag the mouse alone moves super slow and my player takes a good min or so to take even 1 step....

What video card. It seems to run fine for everyone else, I'm 99.9% sure you don't have good drivers

[zell12]

I am using Windows XP with 3 sticks of pc3200 512DDR SDRAM, AMD Athlon 3200 and a Sapphire Radeon 9800 Pro Graphics Card. Explain to me why I lag with this new Graal3 stuff?

[R0bin]

Loriel discovered, if you didnt use the native windows comctrl32.dll provided from my sight, you can see the npcs and player list, but file manager does not work. Perhaps you could have two different directories, one with the rc configured to see the npcs and player list, and one configured to see the file manager.

[zokemon]

Originally posted by Lance
A wise author once wrote: A rose by any other name would smell as sweet.

Yes, A very wise author.

Originally posted by ZeroTrack
my gfx drivers for my laptop are installed correctly.

I have a brand new (maybe 2 months old) AGP Inno 3D Graphics Card that ran perfectly for me. One day DirectX decided to take a **** on my computer and not work (Not litteraly).
My point: Things crap out, deal with it.

[Loriel]

Originally posted by ZeroTrack
switched to the normal windows version clinet

Feel free to give advice how to compile it to run under Linux performantly.

if your a primarily linux based company how come this wasnt taken care of long ago?

Because the player base is mainly windows based

[ZeroTrack]

Originally posted by Loriel

Feel free to give advice how to compile it to run under Linux performantly.

just make it so its NOT the enhanced gui the "graal3" client its unnessary i am sure it looks pretty and everything but its not about looking great esp when it comes to something built for linux, thinks like the transpanency and the dagger mouse are all so not needed ...

[Loriel]

Originally posted by ZeroTrack
just make it so

I think it is slightly more complicated.
The nifty gui stuff are hardly slowing things down, neither is the dagger cursor. And removing them would cause an annoying need for an additional portable library for widgets, I guess.
The problem is totally that your system is badly configured. I have the same problem because my graphics chipset drivers do not appear to support OpenGL, despite me using the most current ones.

[ZeroTrack]

bah, i am not sure howto figure what chipset is on my laptop though, its a gateway solo 1100

[VeX_RaT_Boy]

First you say that you got the most updated drivers, then you say you don't know how to configure it...

Oh well

(GraalV3 runs very well on my linux box. It didn't before I updated nVidia drivers though.)

[ZeroTrack]

Originally posted by VeX_RaT_Boy
First you say that you got the most updated drivers, then you say you don't know how to configure it...

it might not be... it probed it and it wasnt inidentified ...

[R0bin]

modprobe is evil.

[Lance]

Originally posted by ZeroTrack
its a gateway solo 1100

(And this guy wonders why a program's performance is sub-par.)

[R0bin]

hehehe

[Lance]

Hey, I bet if I dug out an old Pentium I or a 386, the Windows client would run very slowly, too. Guess that means Stefan will have to start over from scratch...

[ZeroTrack]

Originally posted by Lance


(And this guy wonders why a program's performance is sub-par.)

the gateway solo 1100 with extented ram is more than the min requirements call for .... open mouth insert foot?

Linux
Xwindows + Opengl
3D Video Card (800x600x16bpp or Higher)
Pentium III 800MHz or Higher
256MB RAM or Higher
Internet Connection (Modem or LAN)
150MB Hard Disk Space

thats the max requirements the only thing thats diffrent on my system is the cpu is 300 mhz slower than that

[Python523]

You still need good graphic drivers, if your video card can't even be identified I kinda doubt it supports stuff like openGL when it's used in accelerated mode or whatever it's called

[R0bin]

Originally posted by ZeroTrack
Pentium III 800MHz or Higher ... the cpu is 300 mhz slower than that

Oh PUHLEEZE.

[Lance]

Originally posted by ZeroTrack


the gateway solo 1100 with extented ram is more than the min requirements call for

the only thing thats diffrent on my system is the cpu is 300 mhz slower than that

.... open mouth insert foot?

[R0bin]

I believe my "OH PUHLEEZE" pointed that out.

[Dach]

800 Mhz is min for Graal? Mine is 500 aswell, ohwell all the more reason to give this computer the boot

[ZeroTrack]

the ones i posted where the recommended requirements not the min requirements ...... so put that foot right back in your mouth please kthx

[Loriel]

I am now warning you that I will officially warn you if you do not try to be nicer

imho you really need to read the fs^H^Hmanual and figure out how to configure X to work with your graphics card, get some nifty drivers and stuff, then it could work despite your less than optimal system.

[ZeroTrack]

Originally posted by Loriel
I am now warning you that I will officially warn you if you do not try to be nicer

awww do i havee tooo =(, okie but only cause you told me too ben,

bahhh i gotta firgure out what monitor is on this laptop... mission impossible?

Originally posted by Dach
800 Mhz is min for Graal? Mine is 500 aswell, ohwell all the more reason to give this computer the boot

Minimum Requirements:
Linux
Xwindows + Opengl
3D Video Card (640x480x16bpp or Higher)
Pentium III 350MHz (or equivalent)
128MB RAM
Internet Connection (56kbps Modem)
100MB Hard Disk Space

[Lance]

Originally posted by ZeroTrack
the ones i posted where the recommended requirements not the min requirements ...... so put that foot right back in your mouth please kthx

When you refer to something as a 'requirement', you imply that it is required. When you then say you have less than that, you are saying that you have less than is required.

Kindly think out your post before clicking that submit button.

[R0bin]

Originally posted by Lance
Kindly think out your post before clicking that submit button.

And when was the last time that happend?

[MrGannondorf]

Originally Posted by Lance

When you refer to something as a 'requirement', you imply that it is required. When you then say you have less than that, you are saying that you have less than is required.

Kindly think out your post before clicking that submit button.

Hahaha... Lance, you read it wrong. He has 300mhz less than the max requirement, not a 300mhz. I think that leaves him with a 500mhz.

Kindly think our your post before clicking that submit button, k?

[Loriel]

I do not think we need this thread anymore.