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DustyPorViva · #1 10-12-2003, 10:14 PM

I don't know, did this when I had nothing to do...

alarid0 · #2 10-12-2003, 10:28 PM

like i said to you over aim, it looks great dusty

deman1171 · #3 10-12-2003, 10:34 PM

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Originally posted by alarid0
like i said to you over aim, it looks great dusty

Yea same here, it's awesome, you should still talk to Amy about those graphics you made, i mean it's all unique, andor would rock with that kind of style, woldmap, and bodies, so you should talk to her, heh atleast use your work XD

Destorm · #4 10-12-2003, 10:42 PM

sounds like this pw has no gfx people must suck or somethin

deman1171 · #5 10-12-2003, 11:15 PM

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Originally posted by Destorm
sounds like this pw has no gfx people must suck or somethin

God you get on my nerves, a server does not have to have GFX to be good, and yes, we have a very good one, Dusty.

Dude6252000 · #6 10-12-2003, 11:37 PM

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Originally posted by deman1171
God you get on my nerves, a server does not have to have GFX to be good, and yes, we have a very good one, Dusty.

..No.

It can't be.

Emily has finally realized that gameplay matters just as much as graphics do...RESPECT..RISING. ARGRHHG

And Dusty, it's good, but looks a little grainy.

deman1171 · #7 10-12-2003, 11:42 PM

I like it, you should talk to Amy if you wish to use them for Andor, it would be nice and unique to graal, what style do you call that?

Oh, and i always realised that, i mean i like some of graal kingdoms graphics, but i don't play anymore, due to lack of gameplay.

zs0 · #8 10-12-2003, 11:45 PM

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Originally posted by deman1171

Yea same here, it's awesome, you should still talk to Amy about those graphics you made, i mean it's all unique, andor would rock with that kind of style, woldmap, and bodies, so you should talk to her, heh atleast use your work XD

Wtf Emily, all you ever talk about is Andor in graphic threads

Anyways dusty, nice =)

deman1171 · #9 10-12-2003, 11:48 PM

Oh my. i talked about it two times. one was where you talked about pw's that could use it. and here is about something about andor that needs to be discussed since dusty works for it. Gosh, i feel so terrible. I'm oh so sorry for doing this.

..not

Dude6252000 · #10 10-12-2003, 11:50 PM

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Originally posted by zs0
Wtf Emily, all you ever talk about is Andor in graphic threads

Anyways dusty, nice =)

Lay off, dude. All I ever see you do in threads is complain about people.

wonderboysp2p · #11 10-12-2003, 11:52 PM

GUYS SHUT UP I HATE WHEN THREADS GET OFF TOPIC ABOUT **** LKIKE THIS >=0

anyways... it reminds me of the overlook hotel

danny... come play with us... forever and ever...

(and for those illiterate people out there its the hotel that 'the shining' takes place in)... if you didnt know that then you're missing out on a kickass book and moveh!!

davidpsy · #12 10-13-2003, 02:48 AM

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Originally posted by Dude6252000

..No.

It can't be.

Emily has finally realized that gameplay matters just as much as graphics do...RESPECT..RISING. ARGRHHG

And Dusty, it's good, but looks a little grainy.

Playerworlds are all made of levels, graphic, scripts. Each one must be done well. Each one is no more or less important then the other. Kaimetsu may think scripts are the most important, though this will be the only thing he is wrong about. But if there are no graphic to cover the frame then all you have is a frame of polygons and that is not very fun. Levels must be done well or all you have is nice graphic but tiled not very well and then you have a nice tileset but not very nice levels to play with them in. This is why all 3 are both equally important. Levels are like graphic in a sence so it should be easy for a skilled graphic artist to be able to create nice levels and intime very good ones with lots of work and prastic.

For the short version of this read my poem.

Playerworlds big and small, good or dall, With direction or none at all
Lame or leet, if your a newbie they will cut off your feet.
All their scripts are needed to shape the world.
Graphic which cover or are taped to the world.
Levels which are the center of the world.
One is not one with out the other.
Each no more importantly done with care and love then the other.
If one is done well and the other is not then your playerworld will be like an abandoned lot.

Dude6252000 · #13 10-13-2003, 03:00 AM

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Originally posted by davidpsy
Playerworlds are all made of levels, graphic, scripts. Each one must be done well. Each one is no more or less important then the other. Kaimetsu may think scripts are the most important, though this will be the only thing he is wrong about. But if there are no graphic to cover the frame then all you have is a frame of polygons and that is not very fun. Levels must be done well or all you have is nice graphic but tiled not very well and then you have a nice tileset but not very nice levels to play with them in. This is why all 3 are both equally important. Levels are like graphic in a sence so it should be easy for a skilled graphic artist to be able to create nice levels and intime very good ones with lots of work and prastic.

For the short version of this read my poem.

Playerworlds big and small, good or dall, With direction or none at all
Lame or leet, if your a newbie they will cut off your feet.
All their scripts are needed to shape the world.
Graphic which cover or are taped to the world.
Levels which are the center of the world.
One is not one with out the other.
Each no more importantly done with care and love then the other.
If one is done well and the other is not then your playerworld will be like an abandoned lot.

Well said..But a poem dedicated to Graal..Is just a bit..Creepy. :x

deman1171 · #14 10-13-2003, 03:11 AM

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Originally posted by Dude6252000

Well said..But a poem dedicated to Graal..Is just a bit..Creepy. :x

ROFL exactly what i was about to say, very very creepy,
Writing poems and songs about an online game o_O

Nick1988 · #15 10-13-2003, 03:25 AM

Looks nice, good job.

Scott · #16 10-13-2003, 05:34 AM

Reminds me of my Grandmas, except I cant smell the bad cooking.

konidias · #17 10-13-2003, 06:02 AM

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Originally posted by davidpsy
Playerworlds big and small, good or dall, With direction or none at all
Lame or leet, if your a newbie they will cut off your feet.
All their scripts are needed to shape the world.
Graphic which cover or are taped to the world.
Levels which are the center of the world.
One is not one with out the other.
Each no more importantly done with care and love then the other.
If one is done well and the other is not then your playerworld will be like an abandoned lot.

LoL, that poem is terrible. No offense. But you used the same words to rhyme nearly every line. "world, world, world" "other, other", and the lines didn't even make much sense.

deman1171 · #18 10-13-2003, 06:12 AM

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Originally posted by konidias

LoL, that poem is terrible. No offense. But you used the same words to rhyme nearly every line. "world, world, world" "other, other", and the lines didn't even make much sense.

I love the poem in your sig

davidpsy · #19 10-13-2003, 06:14 AM

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Originally posted by konidias

LoL, that poem is terrible. No offense. But you used the same words to rhyme nearly every line. "world, world, world" "other, other", and the lines didn't even make much sense.

Yeah I dident really try very hard

. I'm gonna start another poem called "The ban happy na_zi!" Staring signas! lol Its not ment to insult him its just for fun.

alarid0 · #20 10-13-2003, 09:27 AM

"not meant to insult"
right

Dude6252000 · #21 10-13-2003, 06:10 PM

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Originally posted by davidpsy
Yeah I dident really try very hard . I'm gonna start another poem called "The ban happy na_zi!" Staring signas! lol Its not ment to insult him its just for fun.

.. That's like running around on graal, screaming "SIGNAS IS A *** ****" in front of staff and such. That would insult him, because, well, YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE APPROVAL FROM SIGNAS TO DO SO. >.>

davidpsy · #22 10-13-2003, 08:56 PM

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Originally posted by Dude6252000

.. That's like running around on graal, screaming "SIGNAS IS A *** ****" in front of staff and such. That would insult him, because, well, YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE APPROVAL FROM SIGNAS TO DO SO. >.>

Nu nu nu Ban happy means like trigger happy it doesnt mean ***. So I think Ill write a poem called the ban happy **** but it wont be about signas. btw this was just a sort of joke. I dont really know weather I'm actually going to write it or not.

Kaimetsu · #23 10-13-2003, 11:52 PM

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Originally posted by davidpsy
Kaimetsu may think scripts are the most important, though this will be the only thing he is wrong about.

Nope. Scripts define the world, graphics merely decorate it. All are essential, but only one is truly significant.

Dude6252000 · #24 10-14-2003, 12:06 AM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu
Nope. Scripts define the world, graphics merely decorate it. All are essential, but only one is truly significant.

That's true. Some things rely on others a bit, but everything ties into scripting somehow.

Deek2 · #25 10-14-2003, 12:14 AM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu

Nope. Scripts define the world, graphics merely decorate it. All are essential, but only one is truly significant.

And what's significant is both of them combined. Of course, you can do powerful stuff with scripting, and you can do alot of things with graphics, but what's going to be the most powerful is both of them combined. One thing is lacking the other. Scripting is scripting without graphics. You can't make polygons and whatnot, because that has to do with graphics. Graphics is graphics, and without scripting, it's just dead. It has no life put into it.

Kaimetsu · #26 10-14-2003, 12:43 AM

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Originally posted by Deek2

And what's significant is both of them combined. Of course, you can do powerful stuff with scripting, and you can do alot of things with graphics, but what's going to be the most powerful is both of them combined.

Graphics aren't powerful. They don't define the game, they just provide a pretty front end. If GK had a different tileset, it would still be the same game. The same does not apply to its scripts.

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Scripting is scripting without graphics. You can't make polygons and whatnot, because that has to do with graphics.

When I refer to graphics, I am talking about images created by artists. Polygons are just mathematical concepts, and their visual representation is generated by the Graal engine.

davidpsy · #27 10-14-2003, 12:58 AM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu

Graphics aren't powerful. They don't define the game, they just provide a pretty front end. If GK had a different tileset, it would still be the same game. The same does not apply to its scripts.

When I refer to graphics, I am talking about images created by artists. Polygons are just mathematical concepts, and their visual representation is generated by the Graal engine.

Without graphic you would have to code your scripts in 000's and 111's...

I'm not saying graphic is better then scripts but its not less essencial to the whole. Without graphic all you have is text and nothing more. Why do you think people first judge playerworlds and games from screenshots? I'm not saying scripts are less essencial but they arnt better or worse then or better then graphic.

DustyPorViva · #28 10-14-2003, 01:04 AM

There are many text-based RPGs that people play, it does not interfere with gameplay at all... but if there was no programming to it.... Think about that.

davidpsy · #29 10-14-2003, 01:10 AM

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Originally posted by DustyPorViva
There are many text-based RPGs that people play, it does not interfere with gameplay at all... but if there was no programming to it.... Think about that.

If all the game is text then its more like a chat room rather then a game "game." There is nothing wrong with a text chat room game. But without graphic you cant see how to program infact if there was no computer screen you would be stuck using pshicial tools and programming stuff on to micro boards and you have to see things in order to do that so when you see things in life its like graphic. So you could say wind in it self is an npc system and gravity and weather are all npc systems of this game called life. So really both are equally important.

DustyPorViva · #30 10-14-2003, 01:14 AM

Umm... the text RPG I play is not a chat room. It is a MUD, you level up, explore, gain ranks.
There is no graphics involved, at least nothing that is equally important as the programming that allows me to play it.

Oh, and programming games involves text, not graphics (most of the time).

davidpsy · #31 10-14-2003, 01:16 AM

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Originally posted by DustyPorViva
Umm... the text RPG I play is not a chat room. It is a MUD, you level up, explore, gain ranks.
There is no graphics involved, at least nothing that is equally important as the programming that allows me to play it.

Oh, and programming games involves text, not graphics (most of the time).

text is graphic... How can you level up and explore and gain ranks without levels or a world or even body sprites or any graphic of the sort. Unless its all text and you just read whats going on and dont see it.

Kaimetsu · #32 10-14-2003, 01:19 AM

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Originally posted by davidpsy
Without graphic you would have to code your scripts in 000's and 111's...

Read -> Think -> Post

We're talking about the graphics used to build a playerworld, not those that make up Windows. As I've said before: Obviously all playerworlds need some graphics, but their nature and quality are not as significant as those of the scripts.

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Why do you think people first judge playerworlds and games from screenshots?

Because that's the only medium available to them?

DustyPorViva · #33 10-14-2003, 01:21 AM

It is all text, hence the reason it's called a text-based RPG...

Text is only graphics if you make it to be, otherwise it is just a visual means of communication.

Dude6252000 · #34 10-14-2003, 01:26 AM

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Originally posted by davidpsy
text is graphic... How can you level up and explore and gain ranks without levels or a world or even body sprites or any graphic of the sort. Unless its all text and you just read whats going on and dont see it.

Go play a good MUD. Then you won't be complaining that everything needs graphics.

davidpsy · #35 10-14-2003, 01:54 AM

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Originally posted by Dude6252000

Go play a good MUD. Then you won't be complaining that everything needs graphics.

Still graphic is fun to make. The better the graphic the more fun it can be. I read books its like a text rpg.

Dude6252000 · #36 10-14-2003, 02:01 AM

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Originally posted by davidpsy
Still graphic is fun to make. The better the graphic the more fun it can be. I read books its like a text rpg.

In actual text RPGs (MUDs), too, though, you can level up a character, play trivia, etc. You don't always need graphics for gameplay, even though some games are better with graphics. Others can be more fun without them.

davidpsy · #37 10-14-2003, 02:08 AM

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Originally posted by Dude6252000

In actual text RPGs (MUDs), too, though, you can level up a character, play trivia, etc. You don't always need graphics for gameplay, even though some games are better with graphics. Others can be more fun without them.

Yeah text RPGs can be fun a game is no fun without scripts but its not fun without graphic neither both must be done properly to make a great game.

LordZen · #38 10-14-2003, 02:53 AM

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Originally posted by davidpsy

Yeah text RPGs can be fun a game is no fun without scripts but its not fun without graphic neither both must be done properly to make a great game.

lol you sure are right donald. A game sure wouldnt be fun without scripts! Now would it?? haha of course not!

Especially considering no script = no game!

Destorm · #39 10-14-2003, 03:04 AM

and no graphics = no game either (even a txt based game has gfx if computer based)

LordZen · #40 10-14-2003, 03:06 AM

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Originally posted by Destorm
and no graphics = no game either (even a txt based game has gfx if computer based)

DOS

point: you could have a whole screen with just txt and it could still work

hell fullscreen a program and just have txt in it, there!

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