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Old 07-12-2003, 06:29 AM
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npcserver will not stay off

I bought a playerworld today and so far so good until this ....

I go in the server1 web interface, with the right port, and with my login for playerworld16, which I own.

I turn off the npcserver, since I do not want to use it at this time.
It turns off.

For the gserver to realise that is it off. I need to stop the gserver
and start it again. Also tried restart button.

I want the npcserver to stay off until I tell it to turn on.

The gserver running by itself is all that I want while I do my development work.

Please fix so that npcserver stays off until told to stay on by the user, thanks.

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Old 07-12-2003, 06:32 AM
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Eww. Why would you want to develop without an NPC Server?
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Eww. Why would you want to develop without an NPC Server?
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Old 07-12-2003, 07:05 AM
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becasue, I admit that I dont know how t use an npcserver.

Is there a file somewhere that has the most essential basic
commands for npcservers?

i learned in 1.26 on up ... the classic style.
With that I can make things work.

If someone would show me a document with how
to use the npcserver, im sure i could figure out how
to make stuff work this "new" npcserver way.
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Old 07-12-2003, 07:34 AM
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Don't plan on making a PW without an NPC Server. That kind of scripting is probably gonna be removed from the engine relatively soon.
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Old 07-12-2003, 08:01 AM
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Don't plan on making a PW without an NPC Server. That kind of scripting is probably gonna be removed from the engine relatively soon.
A lot of it already has been.
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Old 07-12-2003, 08:30 AM
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A lot of it already has been.
Then it should be undone. I doubt that a non-NPC-Server PW would even be accepted nowadays.
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Takes some getting used to, but you will eventually get the hang of it.
How does the player get used to it if they can't test out scripts without being staff or paying for an NPC server? There should be a test server or something that only works with LAN so people can try out things with at least two clients...
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Old 07-12-2003, 02:21 PM
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in computer programming, when you create a languague and write a parser, one of the rules thats good to keep is backwards compatability as you roll out new versions.

Still, I remember now, hearing some of the reasons why its better to have an npcserver (npcs that can walk between levels, control of timeouts instead of laggy server strings, addweaon instead of toweapons to make updataes of npcs less easy to hack).

So, I ask again, can someone tell me where i can find a document that explains how to use an npcserver, that I can start figuring out how to implement it?
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in computer programming, when you create a languague and write a parser, one of the rules thats good to keep is backwards compatability as you roll out new versions.
Stefan has put a lot of effort towards maintaining backwards-compatibility, but it's just not possible when introducing a serverside element. You'll understand if you learn how to use it.
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Old 07-12-2003, 04:36 PM
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How does the player get used to it if they can't test out scripts without being staff or paying for an NPC server? There should be a test server or something that only works with LAN so people can try out things with at least two clients...
Well, they cant'.

I think at least one person bought a PW with the intention of testing stuff with/for people. I could be wrong.
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Old 07-12-2003, 04:57 PM
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http://noxeo.com/graal/docs/

It is ussally a good idea to put these on the FTP for your staff.
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Old 07-12-2003, 08:34 PM
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Scripters seems to be the root of problems .
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http://noxeo.com/graal/docs/

It is ussally a good idea to put these on the FTP for your staff.
And maybe try to word wrap it for people who find horizontal scrolling annoying.
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Old 07-12-2003, 10:15 PM
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I take time to do something and all you do is complain . Are you too lazy to press <enter> a couple times?
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Old 07-13-2003, 12:02 AM
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thanks for the link, but that address does not work for me.
looks like noxeo.com is down.

even a list of npcserver commands and a brief desciption
of what the mean would be helpful.
I know what I want to "say" but just am not familiar with the language. basically need a translation cross refrence.
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This is the main npc server doc. You will have to just wait till noxeo.com works for you to get the other ones.
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Old 07-13-2003, 05:28 AM
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Finally, someone posts the one file that I asked for three times..

Thank you, I see already that this is helpful.
You can close this thread now.
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if your gserver is configured to have an npc server, you CANT develope with it down, none of the NPCs will show, including clientside ones
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you know, its the stangest thing ... before i posted this thread
at its beginning, I had been able to have the npcserver off, restarted the gserver by itself, and my npcs worked fine, as they did offline. Then, when the npcserver kicked back in (turned itself on, probabaly a crontab command timeout check on the unix side is running), then yes, the npcs didnt show or work when the npcserver turned on.

Now, thanks to the document and now working links refrenced in this thread, I am learning how to make use of the npcserver commands, and I like it!

thanks again to all who helped
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