Arrows!

[Kaiser2]

Ok, here is the deal. If you are shot by an arrow, you die. If you are hit by a sword and wear good armor, you might not, but an arrow will kill you by piercing you. In GK, an arrow hardly causes a scratch, and you can heal easily before hit again. It's hard enough to hit a moving object already, so I have thought up of2 solutions.

1) Arrows do more damage, maybe 5 times a much, it's really hard to hit anyone/anything with arrows already.

2) Easier aiming with arrows, maybe just hold s, and click on a location to shoot.

Overall, it'd be best to do 1 or the other, but not both.

Post what you think.

[graaliholic]

i think there definately needs to be some change to it, since they are impossible to use, but for that much damage then everyone might start using them, then people complain they are unfair... then they get changed back and everything goes back to normal. therefore, it wont happen, well atleast not anytime soon anyway.

[Kaiser2]

Remember, there is still option number 2, and option 1 also means that your chance of hiting is really low, so even wih that attack power, you might never hit.

[LOA--Paul]

Yes, this would help roleplaying too.
Finally Archers would be useful for something in RP Battle besides ship snipers.

[Kaiser2]

They're hardly ship snipers even now x.x

[LOA--Paul]

Originally posted by Kaiser2
They're hardly ship snipers even now x.x

One time I saw one kill another guy that was in battle mode from across the ship.
But that was back when you could do like "/peaceful"

[Kaiser2]

Cool but it's hard to pull off, cuz aiming is terrible

[Ghost Pirate]

I wonder what happen to the Fire and Ice Arrows (those were cool!)

[zell12]

you can create 5 arrows +2 using a spell or a prayer, I forget. And you can alchemize poison bolts, fire arrows, ice arrows, arrows +2, etc...

[Ghost Pirate]

Originally posted by zell12
you can create 5 arrows +2 using a spell or a prayer, I forget. And you can alchemize poison bolts, fire arrows, ice arrows, arrows +2, etc...

Those didn't work last time I played...they do now?

[LOA--Paul]

Originally posted by zell12
you can create 5 arrows +2 using a spell or a prayer, I forget. And you can alchemize poison bolts, fire arrows, ice arrows, arrows +2, etc...

Those still do didley squat in a fight.

[Kaiser2]

you use a skill to make arrows+1, they need to release arrows of accuracy (I need for alchemy ) And Fire and Ice and bolt arrows and stuff would be a cool idea :o

[Tyhm]

Ranged weaponry doesn't do much on GK, 'cuz you get a penalty on aiming, a limitation on shots fired, and you can't see very far anyway. I was talking to Stefan about how hard it is, he says Monsters don't even see you until you're 15 squares away!
I said...um, but the default screen's only 15, about...

[Kaiser2]

Arrows should be useful against humans as well! I mean come on...Monsters don't heal (most of them at least). But humans can just walk it off in seconds, and they can run fast, so it's hard to hit them in the first place.

[Tyhm]

Maybe they should be faster. It's one thing to lead your foe by 0.1 seconds, another entirely to guess where they'll be in 2.

And no chance of an additional miss. If you successfully nail someone with an arrow, they don't get to roll to see if you hit. You hit, you saw the arrow hit them and the little explosion effect. They might have good armor and take 0 damage, but it didn't ruddy miss!

[Selzar]

Also elemental arrows should have an actual gfx...
like an actual ice arrow gfx fire acid lightning ice..
I don't like the same gfx for it...
also when someone get's hit by an elemntal arrow maybe a little burst of that element blazes on the target. Meaning ex( a blaze of fire gos up from that persons head*)

[Kaiser2]

Instead of a burst, it can leave a little midget version of snowstorm or fireball on the ground (like 2x2 spaces or something).

[zell12]

Why do arrows blow up? Arrows should stick in the ground of if they hit the player, stick in them.

[cshank4]

Originally posted by zell12
Why do arrows blow up? Arrows should stick in the ground of if they hit the player, stick in them.

I always wondered about that

[Kaiser2]

Originally posted by zell12
Why do arrows blow up? Arrows should stick in the ground of if they hit the player, stick in them.

Current arrows: dunno
Magic Flame/Ice arrows: cuz they're magical XD

[graaliholic]

Originally posted by Ghost Pirate
I wonder what happen to the Fire and Ice Arrows (those were cool!)

Too bad they can't be re-added, anyone who got hit by one in today's graal would be screwed over many times.

[Kaiser2]

How so? I see no error with it.

[zell12]

I use them on debug, and like, level 16 mental you can read the book on how to make them

[Kaiser2]

Originally posted by zell12
I use them on debug, and like, level 16 mental you can read the book on how to make them

No normal player is level 16 mental nor do we have the book on how to make it.

[graaliholic]

Originally posted by Kaiser2
How so? I see no error with it.

Maybe because when you shot someone with an ice arrow (back in the good ol' days) they were stuck in place for about 30 seconds, and back when damage never went over 5 and players had lots of HP, that was fine, most players would be forced to retreat afterwords. But if you got shot with one of those in today's graal.... you would die many, many, many times and that would be bad.

[Locke_boy]

Originally posted by Kaiser2


No normal player is level 16 mental nor do we have the book on how to make it.

I have the cookbook for arrow of lightning.

[Locke_boy]

Originally posted by Kaiser2
Instead of a burst, it can leave a little midget version of snowstorm or fireball on the ground (like 2x2 spaces or something).

They already are midget spells .. .. didn't USED to be ..

[Locke_boy]

Originally posted by Kaiser2
you use a skill to make arrows+1, they need to release arrows of accuracy (I need for alchemy ) And Fire and Ice and bolt arrows and stuff would be a cool idea :o

+1 = +1 damage and +1 WC

WC = Weapon Class = Accuracy

[Locke_boy]

Originally posted by Kaiser2
2) Easier aiming with arrows, maybe just hold s, and click on a location to shoot.

Press S, then move the mouse and click where you want to shoot. It's been in the game ..

[Kaiser2]

Originally posted by Locke_boy


I have the cookbook for arrow of lightning.

I have the cookbook for bolts of lightning. I'll tell you mine if you tell me yours

Originally posted by Locke_boy


They already are midget spells .. .. didn't USED to be ..

What exactly do you mean by that?

Originally posted by Locke_boy


+1 = +1 damage and +1 WC

WC = Weapon Class = Accuracy

I don't believe that's how it works. The recipe asks for Arrows of Accuracy, not Arrows+1, then again, you never know

Originally posted by Locke_boy


Press S, then move the mouse and click where you want to shoot. It's been in the game ..

I did not know that well, I guess that only leaves 1 option

[Locke_boy]

Originally posted by Kaiser2

I have the cookbook for bolts of lightning. I'll tell you mine if you tell me yours

Hahah, maybe I have bolt of lightning, I'm not sure .. but what does it matter? I can't even read it .. and I'm at level nine mental.

What exactly do you mean by that?

Spread spells = t3h suck now. Large snowstorm is smaller than small snowstorm used to be, and half as effective.

I don't believe that's how it works. The recipe asks for Arrows of Accuracy, not Arrows+1, then again, you never know

Oh, I didn't realize you needed an item for a recipe, I thought you were trying to make arrows of accuracy.

I did not know that well, I guess that only leaves 1 option

Live and learn.