Oasis Environment

konidias · #1 10-19-2002, 02:22 AM

For a few days I have been working on the Oasis environment. Oasis will have a realistic weather system, and constantly changing environment.

For weather, there will be rain, snow, sleet, hail, and wind. Also I hope to be creating an actual "sun" that will travel over the land for day/night effect. The sun's position will also adjust the shadows of things, such as trees. There will also be various non-visual weather effects like drought.

The environment/landscape will also change with weather and seasons. Wind will make the leaves on trees move around and also blow small things around. Seasons will change and so will the color of the plantlife. Changes are gradual for each season, so for example, summer will have a step by step progression to fall.

I have attached an example of casting shadows and different leaf colors. I would also like to announce that the contributors for Oasis are:

Loriel - scripting
Birdbird - graphics
Falados - scripting
Konidias - a little of everything

syltburk · #2 10-19-2002, 02:23 AM

awesome kondidas good job i like it alot

//Jaffer

zell12 · #3 10-19-2002, 02:24 AM

To make the sun and the different alignemts of the shadows for the sun would take a long time. o.o
Once I get my new computer, if I ever do x.x, I'll be sure to check your server out when its done.

konidias · #4 10-19-2002, 02:29 AM

Well the world will be in a gmap but no 3d terrain, allowing for the "sun" to pass over the entire land effectively. The shadow casting system is simple. I made a test of it last night with the mouse as the light source

zell12 · #5 10-19-2002, 02:31 AM

Should be a server worth-while seeing then.

bigkow44 · #6 10-19-2002, 02:37 AM

The leaves look kinda funky when they change with the pixelation.

Qwert616 · #7 10-19-2002, 02:38 AM

Looks and sounds good.

Waltz5 · #8 10-19-2002, 02:42 AM

Looking Good Koni

haunter · #9 10-19-2002, 02:50 AM

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Originally posted by bigkow44
The leaves look kinda funky when they change with the pixelation.

Ya, I noticed that too, other than that... Purddy colours

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CowgirlBebop · #10 10-19-2002, 02:53 AM

k crap, oasis is way better then 2k2 gfx wise. Graal went from pixel to 3d, it should stay pixel and fricking oasis is what graal should be.

adam · #11 10-19-2002, 03:12 AM

That's pretty cool.

But still doesn't top my #1 favorite graal graphics.... a bush... but I won't say who made it or what it's for....

TheFrozenFiend · #12 10-19-2002, 03:15 AM

Nice.

But shouldnt the trees be leafless by halfway through autumn?

magicbud3344 · #13 10-19-2002, 03:16 AM

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Originally posted by adam
That's pretty cool.

But still doesn't top my #1 favorite graal graphics.... a bush... but I won't say who made it or what it's for....

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btw koni, oasis is looking better then anything i have ever seen

, but i was wondering what will it be based on? liek any plans? i just REALLY hope you have some role playing in there

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Goboom · #14 10-19-2002, 04:10 AM

Hehehe...The bottom left leaf dosent change...

Legondary_MyTH · #15 10-19-2002, 04:50 AM

I cant wait to play that its looking very very awsome

CyberX · #16 10-19-2002, 05:14 AM

Konidias, one question:
will Oasis be a Gold Server?

konidias · #17 10-19-2002, 06:36 AM

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Originally posted by CyberX
Konidias, one question:
will Oasis be a Gold Server?

To be honest, I really don't know. But I would imagine it would end up being Gold. I feel it would help get Graal more upgraded accounts to get some high quality playerworlds on the Gold list.

It's all up to Stefan really... all I know is if it starts on Classic, I would predict it would basically take nearly every player from other servers.

I think it would fit up there nicely with Gold though, as 2k2 is 3d terrain RP, 2k1 is 2d terrain adventure, and Oasis is 2d terrain RP. If there was a server that was 3d terrain adventure we would have a mix of everything.

Torankusu · #18 10-19-2002, 07:10 AM

Sounds decent.

Not so much of a new idea, but it's "new" since we can now use shadow functions with lights.

AlexH · #19 10-19-2002, 07:13 AM

Be better in classic.
We want to set a new standard for player worlds and by the small amount I've seen, Oasis should be the player world to do just that.

konidias · #20 10-19-2002, 07:15 AM

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Originally posted by Goboom
Hehehe...The bottom left leaf dosent change...

That's because it's a shadow. :P

Goboom · #21 10-19-2002, 07:40 AM

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Originally posted by konidias

That's because it's a shadow. :P

Oh....and my signature...it wasnt porn...it was a girl being discusted, she had a small top on her boobs...after i cut it out, it kinda looked like porn...lol

zell12 · #22 10-19-2002, 09:41 AM

I was going to tell you it wasn't a leaf, it didn't look right sticking out like that. Besides, if you look closely, its bigger then all the others.

Kaimetsu · #23 10-19-2002, 09:53 AM

Dynamic positioning for shadows? Hmm, interesting. I'm guessing you're using image rotation, but it'll only work for simple symmetrical objects. Might cause problems for complex things like fences.

Legondary_MyTH · #24 10-19-2002, 10:40 AM

in english???lol

KujaBTK · #25 10-19-2002, 02:44 PM

Pretty nice but I still wouldn't leave Graal 2002 if it comes out I think.

syltburk · #26 10-19-2002, 07:16 PM

this server is liek graal2002

stefan would probly ask Kon if they want it gold
cause it pwnz

xcasmicax · #27 10-19-2002, 09:11 PM

Finally!, I got my account to work, even though I only have a couple days to post rofl!

Anywayz, that looks reallys nice, I haven't seen anything like it,
Not so much the color change but the body and the gfx you are using lol =D awesome.

I agree with shadow that the way it changes could look better, but other then that awesomeness...

I wish we could post some stuff about Faheria =(

haunter · #28 10-19-2002, 11:00 PM

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Originally posted by Legondary_MyTH
in english???lol

That was in english, (assuming you were refering to Kaimetsu's post.) I understood it.

Torankusu · #29 10-20-2002, 12:10 AM

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Originally posted by Legondary_MyTH
in english???lol

Image rotating - rotating the image (45 degrees, 90 degrees, etc) in something such as PSP or Photoshop. Basically, it changes the direction, like door.png, and "doordown.png" and so on.

Won't work too well unless you have simple symmetrical objects -
if the image is too complicated in direction(als), then it won't turn out too well when shadowed.

Mykel · #30 10-20-2002, 12:57 AM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu
Dynamic positioning for shadows? Hmm, interesting. I'm guessing you're using image rotation, but it'll only work for simple symmetrical objects. Might cause problems for complex things like fences.

damn it, you beat me to it,

konidias · #31 10-20-2002, 06:17 AM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
Image rotating - rotating the image (45 degrees, 90 degrees, etc) in something such as PSP or Photoshop. Basically, it changes the direction, like door.png, and "doordown.png" and so on.

Won't work too well unless you have simple symmetrical objects -
if the image is too complicated in direction(als), then it won't turn out too well when shadowed.

Not necassarily... making like, a shadow template of the image and doing small rotations for each frame would result in a pretty realistic shadow. I don't see what the image being symmetrical has to do with it because it isn't flipping the image to the other side, it would basically be rotated in a graphics program.

Kaimetsu · #32 10-20-2002, 06:36 AM

Oh, right. I thought you were using GScript's inbuilt rotation stuff until I realised that it doesn't exist yet.

haunter · #33 10-20-2002, 06:42 AM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu
Oh, right. I thought you were using GScript's inbuilt rotation stuff until I realised that it doesn't exist yet.

Lol
*puts that in sig*

bye bye Googie...

konidias · #34 10-20-2002, 06:49 AM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu
Oh, right. I thought you were using GScript's inbuilt rotation stuff until I realised that it doesn't exist yet.

Right, however I'm not sure I'm going for y positioning either... Right now the sun would rise in the east, travel over the land, and set in the west. The shadows would only change x position depending on the sun's position. Y position would be funky for the most part.

Kaimetsu · #35 10-20-2002, 08:31 AM

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Originally posted by konidias

Right, however I'm not sure I'm going for y positioning either... Right now the sun would rise in the east, travel over the land, and set in the west. The shadows would only change x position depending on the sun's position. Y position would be funky for the most part.

Depends on your point of reference. The base of the shadow never moves, but the top moves in both x and y dimensions.

konidias · #36 10-20-2002, 10:11 AM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu

Depends on your point of reference. The base of the shadow never moves, but the top moves in both x and y dimensions.

Well what I'm trying to say is that I am just using a copy of the object image as the shadow. So there is no skewing or stretching. Thus it doesn't move in both x and y or it would involve those.

Kaimetsu · #37 10-20-2002, 10:41 AM

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Originally posted by konidias

Well what I'm trying to say is that I am just using a copy of the object image as the shadow. So there is no skewing or stretching. Thus it doesn't move in both x and y or it would involve those.

Hmm. There should be some stretching and skewing. Imagine a fence that looks like this: ‡‡‡‡‡ You can't just rotate the fence image or it'll look wrong. You need to skew it.

As for the coloration of the leaves... are you using changeimgcolor? I would.

konidias · #38 10-20-2002, 10:44 AM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu

Hmm. There should be some stretching and skewing. Imagine a fence that looks like this: ‡‡‡‡‡ You can't just rotate the fence image or it'll look wrong. You need to skew it.

As for the coloration of the leaves... are you using changeimgcolor? I would.

I'm not using changeimgcolor because the coloration wouldn't be as good, and it also antialiases the image.

osrs · #39 10-20-2002, 10:46 AM

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Originally posted by konidias
Loriel - scripting
Birdbird - graphics
Falados - scripting
Konidias - a little of everything [/B]

Nice team

Graal2001_LAT · #40 10-20-2002, 12:24 PM

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Originally posted by osrs

Nice team

pssst lacks something pssst

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