help wanted...

[LilbrojX]

http://forums.graal2001.com/forums/s...threadid=38065

go there and check it out... I really need a scripter that's familiar with npc server and such... please help, cybnext is letting us test on frolic so you can test your stuff online...

[Torankusu]

What types of things do you need scripted?

[LilbrojX]

I need a custom damages system, gui... and a neat Q ring like SOM

[Graal2001_NAT]

those don't sound too hard, what do ya mean by the Q menu tho? Just a ring similar to the 2k1 thing they use for hats?
SOM - Secret of Mana or somethin?

[LilbrojX]

Originally posted by Graal2001_NAT
those don't sound too hard, what do ya mean by the Q menu tho? Just a ring similar to the 2k1 thing they use for hats?
SOM - Secret of Mana or somethin?

yeah! wanna help me please???

[emortylone]

Tell me what you need and I'll see what I can do... but you shouldn't just ask for things like this.
Jagen: easy as in how? Custom damage, basically HP system is basically REALLY simple to do, you just keep the playerhearts at like 1.5 and have it check to see if it's above, and if so add so many HP, and if it falls, that way you don't have to RECODE the entire thing, I had to do stuff like that, I am about done, I scrapped it and started over, so I completely redid mine, just about done though :P Q menu wouldn't be the simplest thing, I haven't found a better way than saving the player's weapons list in a client.weapons string (clientr Jagen :P) ANy better way to do it?
---Shifter

[R0b1n-NPC]

Uhh, i cant think of one thing on graal playerworlds that arent an original idea or interpretation of another idea.

[R0b1n-NPC]

Originally posted by Kaimetsu


Are you serious? Playerworlds are full of ripoffs from other games or movies or whatever.

Which happened to be exactly my point kai.

[bigkow44]

I personally like Q menus with sub menus and stuff like...bah ill make a pic..

Heres the main menu

[bigkow44]

Originally posted by bigkow44
I personally like Q menus with sub menus and stuff like...bah ill make a pic..

Heres the main menu

and a submenu

[Graal2001_NAT]

Originally posted by Kaimetsu
Jeez, do something original. Konidias is already using the ring menu idea for Oasis, so it's pretty poor to copy somebody's copy.

the first circle menu I remember was when giltwist made one for providence, it never got up, and it was before I even heard of oasis =/
and wasnt the ring idea originally from boco's (sp?) thing he made for 2k1 (I think he made the circle ring)

[R0b1n-NPC]

Originally posted by Kaimetsu
Jeez, do something original. Konidias is already using the ring menu idea for Oasis, so it's pretty poor to copy somebody's copy.

[emortylone]

Dude REALLY make, your OWN stuff and ideas x.X! all my stuff is original, it shouldn't be that hard to think up a NEW idea people!
---Shifter

[Goboom]

Originally posted by Kaimetsu


Are you serious? Playerworlds are full of ripoffs from other games or movies or whatever.

Thats what graal is A RIPOFF OF ZELDA

[R0b1n-NPC]

not a rip off..
an evolution....

[LilbrojX]

you know wut guys? dont gimme that crap about copying... are you freaking retarded? I'm sure you have eyes to see, and you can see with those eyes that GRAAL IS A COPY OF ZELDA 3, konidas is a talented guy I dont know who he is but I know he's good, I got the idea from secret of freaking mana, I mean, good for him he likes the game too...

so next time speak with your mouth not with your ass

take a look at magnoria, I bet you didn't even do that, see anything RIPPED? COPIED? NO! YOU DONT! *****..
bah...


anyways shifter, can't you just do that with actions and stuff? well w/e PM me if you can help and I'll get back to...
thanks for the people who stayed on topic (the topic being I need help, not "oh look at me I'm copying someone") and thanks for the feed back

[emortylone]

AIM: Projectshifter if you want to talk.
---Shifter

[emortylone]

x.X LOL, good point Kai. You don't recruit scripts like that :P
---Shifter

[R0b1n-NPC]

No, you do it like this:

"Oi you, work for my serber bish."
"Ok."


Wh00

[LilbrojX]

I wasn't trying to recruit kai, I allready asked him to help I think and he said "no sorry I dont do player worlds"

[R0b1n-NPC]

"oi bish werk for mah seber" works for me. Also,

why does my gas smell of lighter fluid?

[emortylone]

Upgrading an account would get MEH to script for j00 :P Or something that I would benefit from. Otherwise I don't see why I would want to spend my time on a PW that won't go up most likely =/
---Shifter

[Com013]

Originally posted by Kaimetsu
Jeez, do something original. Konidias is already using the ring menu idea for Oasis, so it's pretty poor to copy somebody's copy.

I am not sure what you mean by "ring menu". Not a circle in which your items are dispayed? Using [<-] and [->] makes it rotate and you will select the item which is at the top?
It is used in lots of games. Like you said: "to copy somebody's copy". It surely wasn't Konidias' idea and you won't be able to tell who made such a menu first. Surely not a Graal player.

[Com013]

Originally posted by Kaimetsu


Read the words, man. Copy of a copy. W-Dragoon is copying Konidias' copy. I acknowledge that Konidias didn't invent the idea, but it was probably the first real implementation on Graal. If not, he's copying a copy of a copy. Even worse. It's reasonable to introduce an old concept onto Graal, but heck, not if somebody has already done exactly that.

Then I could say: "hey, we used swords and baddies on Classic first. You should not use them for your player world."
But is a ring menu really such a huge, important, hard-to-think of idea? Why do you care if someone else uses it?
Ok, if he used Konidias script that would be bad, but as long as he scripts it himself...Oasis isn't even existing now (at least not for the public).

[R0b1n-NPC]

Ring menus are fun to script

[Timpan3]

Originally posted by Kaimetsu


Ring menus are distinctive. It's all subjective, of course, but I think that most people will just percieve it as a blatant copy.

Let him have it his way, I think he understands now that you think it's copying...

[LilbrojX]

secret of mana... not konidas... but hey, I dunno wutever you gotta tell yourself to sleep at night kai

[edit]
tipman is very inteligent...

[Frolic_RC2]

Copy of a Copy? He said SEVERAL times he was copying Secret of Mana if anything, does Secret of Mana sound ANYTHING like Oasis? I didn't think so. Second, he isn't using the same layout, graphics, or anything...the only thing he is using is the shape "CIRCLE". Now let us think how long a circle has been around...hmm pretty long. Probably even longer then Oasis! So then, we can't make a ring menu because we copy a circle! OH NO!

Give me a break, let the guy have his ring menu, I didn't see anyone bother Konidias even though he was "copying" g2k1, not to mention the millions of circular objects =P.

[LilbrojX]

Originally posted by Frolic_RC2
Copy of a Copy? He said SEVERAL times he was copying Secret of Mana if anything, does Secret of Mana sound ANYTHING like Oasis? I didn't think so. Second, he isn't using the same layout, graphics, or anything...the only thing he is using is the shape "CIRCLE". Now let us think how long a circle has been around...hmm pretty long. Probably even longer then Oasis! So then, we can't make a ring menu because we copy a circle! OH NO!

Give me a break, let the guy have his ring menu, I didn't see anyone bother Konidias even though he was "copying" g2k1, not to mention the millions of circular objects =P.

uh oh your sig shows the moon

maybe your a stupid person who can't think of his own ideas and you deserver to be bashed and thrashed because you decided to step foot into the forums with no real intention of starting a fight

[Frolic_RC2]

Originally posted by LilbrojX



uh oh your sig shows the moon

maybe your a stupid person who can't think of his own ideas and you deserver to be bashed and thrashed because you decided to step foot into the forums with no real intention of starting a fight

OCRAP! AND LOOK! I AM COPYING A MOUNTAIN, even...*gasp* A..A TREE!!! AHH!!!

[LilbrojX]

Originally posted by Frolic_RC2


OCRAP! AND LOOK! I AM COPYING A MOUNTAIN, even...*gasp* A..A TREE!!! AHH!!!

oh and wuts this?? YOUR USING THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE? my gosh man, where were you born?

[Dach]

Why not just make it into a figure 8? Or even a limacon, heck even a square? That's pretty darn original (as far as a copy gets)!

[Frolic_RC2]

Originally posted by Kaimetsu


Sigh. Things change when ideas are implemented in Graal. It was questionable for me to copy Tetris with Metris, but I got away with it. If somebody then made another Tetris clone then they'd be accused of all sorts of plagiarism and unoriginality. I've said it once and (because people seem unable to understand things without multiple iterations) I'll say it again: Newness to the gaming world is difficult, and a failure to achieve it is forgivable. Newness to Graal is easy, and so unoriginality within the scope of Graal is bad.

It doesn't really matter whose idea he intended to copy, because this is all about public opinion. My argument is simply that many players will see the menu as a tired ripoff, assuming the playerworld ever gets finished/accepted.

I see what you are saying, and personally, I wouldn't use a ring menu if I was him. But he has done such a good job on his graphics, and the whole layout would work perfectly with a ring menu. Hmm...but it might not be to hard to think of something similiar, but way different the Oasis...

[LilbrojX]

Originally posted by Dach
Why not just make it into a figure 8? Or even a limacon, heck even a square? That's pretty darn original (as far as a copy gets)!

actually... I dont know wut a limacon is... but a figure 8 would be cool... or a square... but I really want a ring menu...

btw we found a scripter

[LilbrojX]

Originally posted by Kaimetsu


This is exactly what I'm saying. Heck, I just had an interesting idea for a sphere menu.

I find it ironic that your the only one who benifits from this thread...