You cannot open the editor in the online mode

[Loriel]

Why not?

I have all necessary folder rights. I don't see why I should have to have a second graal client running, when one should be enough. Stefan, go code it so we can edit levels online

[osrs]

Its not very important to do...

[Tyhm]

Maybe when the editor is a standalone. The trouble is people running something in the editor, and that script continuing in online mode...

[haunter]

I just open up the file manager, and double click an .NW/.Graal file and the editor opens up, and as long as you keep the file manager window open, when you click save, it re-uploads the new version of the level.

[screen_name]

Originally posted by haunter
I just open up the file manager, and double click an .NW/.Graal file and the editor opens up, and as long as you keep the file manager window open, when you click save, it re-uploads the new version of the level.

That's what I usually do.

It's the best way

[Tyhm]

Hm. Maybe if pressing F4 in-game sent a message to RC, and RC took that to mean doubleclick that file...that would be safe, nee?

[Graal2001_LAT]

Here is my problem. My .graal/.nw files aren't associated with the graal.exe, so I go to add them (open with) and when I select graal.exe it disallows it for some reason. It's because in the program list I already have Gani Editor and Terrain Editor, and it seems to not ant to add a third...

If I double click them from a folder, they will open. If I try and open them from RC it doesn't have a program listed to open it with.

[Dach]

I tried to associate them with Graal.exe, but it just opens a blank level named "my ". Anyone willing to give the correct actions for opening the files?

[Tyhm]

So open the editor and drag+drop

[Loriel]

Originally posted by Tyhm
So open the editor and drag+drop

If I do that, it does not reupload when I save

Yes, I can just double click the levels, but a second Graal client slows down my system. It's just uncomfortable to work with two clients.
Also, it should not be too hard to have the Graal client work with the same security stuff as RC does. Warpto seems to be pretty secure and stuff.

[Falcor]

Originally posted by Dach
I tried to associate them with Graal.exe, but it just opens a blank level named "my ". Anyone willing to give the correct actions for opening the files?

I thought it was just like PATHTOGRAAL\Graal.exe "%1" or something.

[Falcor]

Originally posted by Graal2001_LAT
Here is my problem. My .graal/.nw files aren't associated with the graal.exe, so I go to add them (open with) and when I select graal.exe it disallows it for some reason. It's because in the program list I already have Gani Editor and Terrain Editor, and it seems to not ant to add a third...

If I double click them from a folder, they will open. If I try and open them from RC it doesn't have a program listed to open it with.

Try deleteing all file associations w/ graal.exe and re-associating them?

[Graal2001_LAT]

Originally posted by Falcor


Try deleteing all file associations w/ graal.exe and re-associating them?

Nope, it doesn't work like that.

[gokux33]

Graal has problems opening files or files in folders that have spaces in their names. This is only when you're associating them with the .exe, but if you open the editor THEN open the levels, it will be fine.

[emortylone]

That would pose a problem for a couple of things.
1) When you hit 'F4' and view the level while in online mode, are you still connected to the server, and ifso, where @ and such, how would you continue playing??
2) What if you saved the level instead of scrapping it b/c you messed up... not good...
---Shifter

[Falcor]

Originally posted by emortylone
That would pose a problem for a couple of things.
1) When you hit 'F4' and view the level while in online mode, are you still connected to the server, and ifso, where @ and such, how would you continue playing??Beh, stefan would need to figure that one out, personally I don't think he'd even bother
2) What if you saved the level instead of scrapping it b/c you messed up... not good... the problem exsists in rc too, but it shouln't necissaraly be a problem unless you suddenly develope a case of stupid
---Shifter

[Loriel]

Originally posted by emortylone
That would pose a problem for a couple of things.
1) When you hit 'F4' and view the level while in online mode, are you still connected to the server, and ifso, where @ and such, how would you continue playing??
2) What if you saved the level instead of scrapping it b/c you messed up... not good...
---Shifter

1) It could just put you in a pause mode, I think :P Or it could just make you invisible/untouchable and pause all your NPC scripts. Should not be too hard.
2) Same with RC.

[emortylone]

1) That is crazy... then you could just be dead there and taking up more space and creating lagg x.X You would have to completely leave the server really... perhaps if it opened up in a different window??
2) Just like RC? x.X If you upload something into RC you know it should be good x.X And I have not gotten the whole edit tyhing to work properly. I always have to download and then reupload. but good point Loriel.
---Shifter

[Tyhm]

It should pause you and open the editor as a seperate program

[emortylone]

I could see that working... if you have levels FTP for that though might be a bit trickier. Perhaps it would just be a right that would allow you to open levels. Like 'Online Level Editing' or something...?
---Shifter

[Birdbird_0]

intagrate the editor into the rc program, as well as being able to use the editor whail appering online, but with all the editor properties, and after you're done editing, simply click upload, or upload and save, it saves it to a folder, and from the file ither in the folder or temperary memory, it uploads it to th eserver.

I dont think its a security issue, since you need the correct rights pass and account to acess rc.

[emortylone]

It would run SOME risk x.x
---Shifter

[Com013]

Originally posted by Birdbird_0
intagrate the editor into the rc program, as well as being able to use the editor whail appering online, but with all the editor properties, and after you're done editing, simply click upload, or upload and save, it saves it to a folder, and from the file ither in the folder or temperary memory, it uploads it to th eserver.

I dont think its a security issue, since you need the correct rights pass and account to acess rc.

Yes, a small RC editor would be good. You don't need to load all the stuff you need for playing the game, so it would be faster to edit a level directly from RC.

[R0b1n-NPC]

or just make the rc load it up in notepad if you just wanna edit the npcs

[Com013]

Originally posted by R0b1n-NPC
or just make the rc load it up in notepad if you just wanna edit the npcs

I'd like to fix small tiling errors very fast, and so I need a small editor.
And you'd have to extract the NPCs out of the .graal file into a .txt file and vice-versa.

[emortylone]

R0bin and I are partial to the NPC stuff :P I think that it would be good to add something so you can JUST edit the NPCs. If you need to edit the level then just open it. But NPCs you should be able to do seperately. It would be UBERLY leet.
---Shifter

[Graal2001_NAT]

r0bin, you can do that by just editing your computers folder options to make it open word pad when you open .nw files (basically double clicking them on the RC file browser)

[emortylone]

x.X i've done that, but it isn't quite the same. You don't have the whole visual aspect of it, and you can EASILY screw up the entire level x.X Plus you don't have the format and it's a BISH to read!
---Shifter

[konidias]

Online editing is like a major security risk. Editing levels from online mode was disabled because cheaters found a way to edit their current level to add npcs to the online level.

[emortylone]

That is a good point. I've seen them editing levels and doing baddies. FORTUNATELY all the wanna-be "hackers" of Graal don't know enough about scripting to do anything. If they had an skillz @ all they could do damage, LMAO
---Shifter

[Com013]

Originally posted by konidias
Online editing is like a major security risk. Editing levels from online mode was disabled because cheaters found a way to edit their current level to add npcs to the online level.

But when you add it to the RC it wouldn't hurt, would it?

[emortylone]

Ah, the RC is quite frequently hacked, and it wouldn't be hard to recode it or reengineer parts to make it screw things up x.X
---Shifter

[Com013]

Originally posted by emortylone
Ah, the RC is quite frequently hacked, and it wouldn't be hard to recode it or reengineer parts to make it screw things up x.X
---Shifter

That doesn't make sense. I can already download and upload files using the RC. So when I double click on a .graal file it would download it, start the connected program (graal.exe) and when I closed the program it would upload it. That is already working.
All I want is that instead of starting a huge program containing things I don't need for editing (like playing the game, connection to the server, sound, etc) I want a very small editor included in the RC so it would be faster to open a file.
Note: it would not open new ways or would make things more unsafe, it would just make things faster.