A question out of curiosity

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ · #1 07-15-2002, 11:27 PM

If/when Dustari comes back, would you be interested in having a republic again? The republic was back around in December or November, but it was quickly disbanded. At the time, there were some problems but I think it would be cool to see it come back with some slight modifications. You'd have parliament (but it wouldn't be called that) and a senate and you can debate and discuss things, which gives people more of a constitutional monarchy perspective of the kingdom. Anyways, vote.

jeff335 · #2 07-15-2002, 11:43 PM

Like this:

The people elect an odd number of senators.

Senate maybe elects a President of the Senate from within themselves.

Senate votes on everything, including appointments etc

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ · #3 07-16-2002, 12:13 AM

The way I was thinking (following the old republic as closely a possible) is this:

The House of Wishes is appointed. They talk to the citizens of the kingdom and bring forward proposals to debate. Once they are debated and approved it moves onto the Senate.

The Senate is elected and looks over the bill or proposal, and either approves it or sends it back to the House to be ratified.

The Monarch gets the bill if it is approved by the Senate, and either acepts it to make it law, or rejects it and is send back to House of Wishes.

The House of Wishes would probably have 3-5 people, and the Senate three people. Ty to keep the numbers as low as possible to avoid having too many chiefs, not enough indians, so to speak.

Discharge · #4 07-16-2002, 02:16 AM

It would be cool if we could shift the time period to the ancient times. Think of the bunches of fun.... yay.

Ghost Pirate · #5 07-16-2002, 02:22 AM

Wheres the keep dustari dead like it should be vote?

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ · #6 07-16-2002, 02:32 AM

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Originally posted by Ghost Pirate
Wheres the keep dustari dead like it should be vote?

If keeping Dustari dead is your primary objective, then go ahead and role-play with your pirates. Samurai, go back to santerrain and have peace. KT, go rebuild your fort. Zormite, go ahead and do whatever the hell your doing now.

At this point, in the absence of Dustari, I see so much role-playing all over graal 2001 it amazes me. I go online every day, and see 3 at the most with kingdom tags! Good job everyone! It seems as if you've killed two birds with one stone, dustari and role-playing altogether!

Discharge · #7 07-16-2002, 02:39 AM

Just got on to do a little role playing and I see one KT member. No one else with a kingdom tag.....yay.

I logged off 5 mins after.

draygin · #8 07-16-2002, 02:49 AM

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Originally posted by Discharge
Just got on to do a little role playing and I see one KT member. No one else with a kingdom tag.....yay.[/COLOR]

I logged off 5 mins after.

I'm gonig to guess Geno he's always on. I usually do the same thing on about 5 minutes log off when none of my friends are online to RP with.

ghostsamurai · #9 07-16-2002, 03:16 AM

Zurkiba · #10 07-16-2002, 07:07 AM

Henry... you're setting up a Democratic Republic
If you want a good republic call me.

ghostsamurai · #11 07-16-2002, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zurkiba
Henry... you're setting up a Democratic Republic
If you want a good republic call me.

NO
HE WILL NOT CALL YOU
DUSTARI DOES NOT NEED A REPUBLIC
DUSTARI NEEDS A KING WHO KINGS ABOUT

LilNiglet · #12 07-16-2002, 09:21 AM

Dustari always has been and will (hopefully) always will be a monarchy.

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ · #13 07-16-2002, 09:59 AM

No, silly silly people
*shakes head*
CONSITIUTIONAL MONARCHY, but one with veto powers.

Did you not read my posts?

draygin · #14 07-16-2002, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zurkiba
Henry... you're setting up a Democratic Republic
If you want a good republic call me.

Yes call him then run spikes through him to weaken your enemies and to just plain raise the intelligence level of graal all around.

Zurkiba · #15 07-16-2002, 09:53 PM

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Originally posted by draygin

Yes call him then run spikes through him to weaken your enemies and to just plain raise the intelligence level of graal all around.

... Yeah I know... That is how I made the Zormites the superpower of the world...

That is how I converted alot of Dustari into being a Zurkist. And how I dont insult people.

I've done nothing to offend you and yet you state I'm stupid and an idiot.

Brad · #16 07-16-2002, 10:47 PM

No.

Keep it the king is the ******* ruler who gets to do what he wants.

LilNiglet · #17 07-16-2002, 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zurkiba

... Yeah I know... That is how I made the Zormites the superpower of the world...

That is how I converted alot of Dustari into being a Zurkist. And how I dont insult people.

I've done nothing to offend you and yet you state I'm stupid and an idiot.

Zormites... a.. SUPERPOWER?! AHAHHAHAHAHAhaahahahaha

The Zormite's so called "superpower" is chicken **** next to Dustari's power at its peak.

draygin · #18 07-17-2002, 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zurkiba

... Yeah I know... That is how I made the Zormites the superpower of the world...

That is how I converted alot of Dustari into being a Zurkist. And how I dont insult people.

I've done nothing to offend you and yet you state I'm stupid and an idiot.

No idiot etc.. arn't targeted at you specifically just at stupid comments in general. Sorry if you keep getting pegged.

As for super power. You merely have alot of members. A lot of members that are easily beaten. Now there are a couple that are good fighters but those few cant support every one else's inadequicies (sp?)

Ghost Pirate · #19 07-17-2002, 12:59 AM

IF Asuka was selected to become king of Dustari if it wanted to come back

I'd let it come back then
If it was

Kamuii or Tupper or Aftershock
NO!
Kingdoms need to go back into the hands of their greater ruler. Dustari was best in the times of Asuka and Zulithe, same with all the other kingdoms with Zormite and Hiryuu (sp?) Trueheat and Samurai.

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ · #20 07-17-2002, 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ghost Pirate
IF Asuka was selected to become king of Dustari if it wanted to come back

I'd let it come back then
If it was

Kamuii or Tupper or Aftershock
NO!
Kingdoms need to go back into the hands of their greater ruler. Dustari was best in the times of Asuka and Zulithe, same with all the other kingdoms with Zormite and Hiryuu (sp?) Trueheat and Samurai.

Unfortunately, it is not for you to decide, nor is it Asuka's place to come back to Dustari and lead it. You do realize that Dustari has more loyal members who stick around than all the other kingdoms combined together? Hah! Now I find that funny! They ARE Dustari, they will make the decisions, thanks. Now you or anyone else.

Ghost Pirate · #21 07-17-2002, 02:36 AM

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Originally posted by _0AfTeRsHoCk0_

Unfortunately, it is not for you to decide, nor is it Asuka's place to come back to Dustari and lead it. You do realize that Dustari has more loyal members who stick around than all the other kingdoms combined together? Hah! Now I find that funny! They ARE Dustari, they will make the decisions, thanks. Now you or anyone else.

Well most idiots do share 1 mind.

Spanko · #22 07-17-2002, 03:47 AM

WUB FOR DA GHOSTIE!

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ · #23 07-17-2002, 03:53 AM

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Originally posted by Ghost Pirate

Well most idiots do share 1 mind.

That argument gets old after a while. The lower class "idiots" abandoned us, if you'd like to know. Most of them members that have stuck around are long time members and some former KoS.

By the way, at least Dustari has some members. You don't even have enough men to man one ship

Spanko · #24 07-17-2002, 03:56 AM

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Originally posted by _0AfTeRsHoCk0_

That argument gets old after a while. The lower class "idiots" abandoned us, if you'd like to know. Most of them members that have stuck around are long time members and some former KoS.

By the way, at least Dustari has some members. You don't even have enough men to man one ship

At least he hasn't restarted his kingdom upteen million times like kamuii.

GryffonDurime · #25 07-17-2002, 05:51 AM

Oi....This is a pointless argument. What will happen will happen, and fighting over it woln't make a diference. If you've got a problem, do something about it, don't just sit around and complain, do something about it. None of the old monarchs, even Kamoo or Asuka, have the right to or even should come back. They died. It's a shame but they had their time, they had their reign, and now it's time to move on. This applies to all kingdoms, not just Dustari. Oh, and Zurkiba, you DID NOT convert ANY Dustari to Zurkism. We all hated it. Face it. The day Zurkism comes into power is the day Graal is plunged into a demonic nightmare from which there is no waking.

Spanko · #26 07-17-2002, 06:21 AM

Ummm i never died....

Zurkiba · #27 07-17-2002, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LilNiglet

Zormites... a.. SUPERPOWER?! AHAHHAHAHAHAhaahahahaha

The Zormite's so called "superpower" is chicken **** next to Dustari's power at its peak.

Well Dustari is dead.
Right now the super powers are Zormite and Karakaze... just because there are no other kingdoms.

Quote:

Originally posted by GryffonDurime

Oi....This is a pointless argument. What will happen will happen, and fighting over it woln't make a diference. If you've got a problem, do something about it, don't just sit around and complain, do something about it. None of the old monarchs, even Kamoo or Asuka, have the right to or even should come back. They died. It's a shame but they had their time, they had their reign, and now it's time to move on. This applies to all kingdoms, not just Dustari. Oh, and Zurkiba, you DID NOT convert ANY Dustari to Zurkism. We all hated it. Face it. The day Zurkism comes into power is the day Graal is plunged into a demonic nightmare from which there is no waking.

Did you personally speak with everyone? I had a good handle of people who loved the idea. You're not everyone.

OldbieDarkHero · #28 07-17-2002, 09:29 PM

why did it get shut down anyway? did someone come and own all the dustaris?

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ · #29 07-17-2002, 11:14 PM

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Originally posted by OldbieDarkHero
why did it get shut down anyway? did someone come and own all the dustaris?

Technically, yes. But because of recent RP events, the new age has begun in Dustari

LilNiglet · #30 07-17-2002, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zurkiba

Well Dustari is dead.
Right now the super powers are Zormite and Karakaze... just because there are no other kingdoms.

Then consider yourself a power, not a superpower.

ghostsamurai · #31 07-18-2002, 01:11 AM

damnit, KT should not be a super power

TrueHeaT · #32 07-18-2002, 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ghostsamurai
damnit, KT should not be a super power

I know

People shouldn't act like we were the driving force in Dustari's defeat, too.
We just sneak attacked Kamuii and Henry and killed them

The large number of Pirates and Samurai did most of the damage

ghostsamurai · #33 07-18-2002, 09:30 AM

we've got to get out of politics all together, we have way too much pull on people, maybe we should just attack random groups of RPers?

TrueHeaT · #34 07-18-2002, 09:39 AM

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Originally posted by ghostsamurai
we've got to get out of politics all together, we have way too much pull on people, maybe we should just attack random groups of RPers?

Maybe just hang around highly populated areas and stick out our feet to trip people

But I've had it with politics, that's for sure.
If graal instruments weren't so unbearably laggy, a concert could be cool.

Brad · #35 07-19-2002, 06:12 AM

ASUKA NEVER DIED, HE HAS THE RIGHT TO COME BACK ! ! !

magicbud3344 · #36 07-19-2002, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ghostsamurai
damnit, KT should not be a super power

we are now turning into russia, we are the super power rofl

bleh i don't like this, we shouldn't be able to take over big groups, we are just bandits ;[ not teh dustarian army

DarkPyro_2001 · #37 07-22-2002, 05:09 AM

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Originally posted by _0AfTeRsHoCk0_
Zormite, go ahead and do whatever the hell your doing now.

...riiiiiiiiight. I'll just go replace Zormite with a new kingdom, MUWAHAHAHAHAHA.

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