Body Discussion.

[Falcor]

The bodys have imperfect onwall. So you can sometimes walk through stuff... atleast the default ones didnt ;-\

[Zakur]

Originally posted by Brad
Wasn't aware there were new shields.

I'm pretty sure that there aren't any. I think he meant that he wanted shield brought back so that people could use them again.

[Mman]

Originally posted by Soto
the old bodys were alot better better to pk with an walked alot faster atleaast they could have an option if you wanna use old bodys or new bodys.

I think they'd almost have to do one or the other since if they allowed both the people who use the new bodies would be terribly disadvantaged as far as speed is concerned.

[Neonight]

Originally posted by Soto
the old bodys were alot better better to pk with an walked alot faster atleaast they could have an option if you wanna use old bodys or new bodys.

No, because if they had both body scripts in a NPC, it's make the script huge and lag like hell.

[Brad]

OLD BODIES YES.

[Googi]

Eh, well, I'm a bomy (unless I need to fight, which reminds me, bomy walling bug needs to be fixed so I don't have to morph whenever I want to fight). But the new bodies are pretty bad :-\. And besides, if the staff brought back the old bodies, Stefan probably wouldn't be around to notice it until sometime next year .

[Neonight]

Originally posted by Aknts
Because Stefan likes the new ones.. I thought for sure that us "PAYING" customers would have a choice in the matter of keeping them.. but we don't. Stefan please bring back the old bodies you can keep the HP system just bring them back.

As much as I like the older bodies, you bring up an interesting.... thought. Just because you pay for things doesn't mean you actually own the whole system of it all. If you buy... a Nintendo game, do you get to choose which bodies you want? Which head? I think you should just stick with what you have... He could have been meaner and actually not put interchangable heads at all. The thought might not have come up by now.

[Cid_Night]

yaaaaa bring the old bodies back, i dont like the new ones at all, and you cant pk with them...well you can...sorta...

[Mman]

Originally posted by Neonight

He could have been meaner and actually not put interchangable heads at all.

Meaner isn't exactly the word, dumber would be a better choice there. If he had no interchangeable heads, everyone would look alike and graal would have failed before version 2 ever came out.
Why he now limits the bodies is beyond me, but I'm just glad the playerworlds do not suffer from this crap and can still use the old bodies that you could CUSTOMIZE.

[Googi]

Stefan most likely did it because he thought shape was more important then colour...

The HP on the other hand, I don't know WHAT he was thinking.

[ZanderX]

There's certainly a lot of customisation as far as the new bodies go in my eyes, seeing as how there are roughly 60 of said bodies on the server.

If you dislike the ones that are already there, make your own, submit it, and use it, it's not that hard. You shouldn't be changing your outfit every single day, either.

[Googi]

I don't care about new bomys but I HATE the HP system.

[HoudiniMan]

I don't care about the colors really and i don't care about the HP system except that people who start as bomies get more which is LAME on the part of the scripters... its going to evolve into a huge problem and wind up getting fixed with a server reset -.-

Anywho... I implore you to bring back the old swords and the old hurt.gani because then you can at least fight, the new hurt gani thing makes it so they can chase you and keep hitting you, FIX that and crank up the speed on how fast you can continuously swing your sword instead of tap tap tap

[Brad]

Originally posted by HoudiniMan
I don't care about the colors really and i don't care about the HP system except that people who start as bomies get more which is LAME on the part of the scripters... its going to evolve into a huge problem and wind up getting fixed with a server reset -.-

Anywho... I implore you to bring back the old swords and the old hurt.gani because then you can at least fight, the new hurt gani thing makes it so they can chase you and keep hitting you, FIX that and crank up the speed on how fast you can continuously swing your sword instead of tap tap tap

383 HP 4 lyf

[ZanderX]

Originally posted by HoudiniMan
I don't care about the colors really and i don't care about the HP system except that people who start as bomies get more which is LAME on the part of the scripters... its going to evolve into a huge problem and wind up getting fixed with a server reset -.-

Anywho... I implore you to bring back the old swords and the old hurt.gani because then you can at least fight, the new hurt gani thing makes it so they can chase you and keep hitting you, FIX that and crank up the speed on how fast you can continuously swing your sword instead of tap tap tap

Actually, the bomy HP bonus will remain, because without it there's little reason to be a bomy.

It wasn't any "lame" decision. In fact, I'm pretty sure it was Stefan's...not ours.

[Googi]

Originally posted by Brad

383 HP 4 lyf

<3, but some dumb admin lowered me down to 350, how'd you manage to escape getting 33 removed?

[Aestus]

This should go in the Graphics Forum, but I figure I can get away with posting it here without having to make an entire thread for it.

Of these two front views, which do you prefer? The one on the right is the body currently online, on the left is my slightly edited version. I only started because I didn't like the cape's shape, but the entire process of just pasting on the corners is rather tedious if very easy, and I'm not sure it's worth finishing. Tell me if you think it's at all worth continuing.

[DarkPyro_2001]

Gah, sword is impossible for me to get because I can't kill any monsters, partly because I only have 133 HP!

[ZanderX]

Originally posted by DarkPyro_2001
Gah, sword is impossible for me to get because I can't kill any monsters, partly because I only have 133 HP!

You know you can just keep respawning and killing them......right?

[_0AfTeRsHoCk0_]

Originally posted by Aestus
This should go in the Graphics Forum, but I figure I can get away with posting it here without having to make an entire thread for it.

Of these two front views, which do you prefer? The one on the right is the body currently online, on the left is my slightly edited version. I only started because I didn't like the cape's shape, but the entire process of just pasting on the corners is rather tedious if very easy, and I'm not sure it's worth finishing. Tell me if you think it's at all worth continuing.

I like the one on the left
I use that body too and I know it looks a little too much like a robe or something. It needs to have a belt and it needs to look like a coat. The blue and black on the one online look too similar.

[Jourdan]

Gah, new bodies are way better, the old ones look like retraded versions of the new ones. The old bodies have WAY less detail.
The only thing bad with the new bodies is that the sword doesn't swing as fast.

[Torankusu]

Originally posted by Valder
I support this 100%, but Symon doesn't want the old bodies back because he said his staff took a long time to integrate the new bodies into 2001 and doesn't want to undo his work.

yeah, he was saying that yesterday, but Shadow Knight said he could just edit some NPC and it would all work like normal again.

[Torankusu_2002]

yeah
the new bodies are terrible

[DarkHero2002]

its.....too.....hard....to.....pk

[Sparkplug]

Originally posted by DarkHero2002
its.....too.....hard....to.....pk

And to spar.

[Aliendude]

I hate the new bodies. Your head looks like a watermelon compared to the bodys, sparring/PKing is no fun at all and they aren't very customizeable. There may be 60 bodies, but about half of them suck.

[user13-xo]

A lot of players quit playing Graal because of the new bodies. I like the old bodies better then the new ones. It is hard to pk or spar with the new bodies. Bring back the old bodies
Also keep the current HP System, it's better then the old one.

[Sparkplug]

ALMOST everyone in this thread that has posted wants old bodies.. i hope we will get them

[ZanderX]

Originally posted by user13-xo
A lot of players quit playing Graal because of the new bodies. I like the old bodies better then the new ones. It is hard to pk or spar with the new bodies. Bring back the old bodies
Also keep the current HP System, it's better then the old one.

And where do you get these miraculous figures?

Also, if you people think the heads look oversized, make NEW LESS OVERSIZED HEADS!

[Mman]

Originally posted by Aliendude
I hate the new bodies. Your head looks like a watermelon compared to the bodys, sparring/PKing is no fun at all and they aren't very customizeable. There may be 60 bodies, but about half of them suck.

Ok replace "half" with "all" and that sentence is 100% true.
New bodies are the worst thing ever to plague 2k1. Hats that looked great on your character with old bodies now look stupid with the new bodies, there are STILL ganis that haven't been fixed to work with them, walking is slow as hell, and the bodies are all ugly. There, now you know why the new bodies are flat out horrible. This is the worst mistake ever made by 2k1 staff, and I hope they have the brain cells to realize this and reverse it for the good of 2k1.


If you like the new bodies, please tell me what you are smoking.

[Hilton]

Originally posted by ZanderX
You shouldn't be changing your outfit every single day, either.

I do in real life, and isn't Graal trying to get a little bit more realistic about things?

[_0AfTeRsHoCk0_]

I think what someone should do (maybe Stefan or another experienced graphics person) is make a new body template for every single old one (like body1, body2, body3 etc.) for the new bodies. This way, if someone just wants a new body, all they have to do is simply recolor the template that someone made.

That's the problem. No one has the patience (and the skills) to open up a program to make a body. For example, look at the cape. It's really really hard to make a cape body! If someone made it, think of how easy it would be to recolor and upload

[Valder]

Originally posted by ZanderX


And where do you get these miraculous figures?

Also, if you people think the heads look oversized, make NEW LESS OVERSIZED HEADS!

You can't keep telling people to make new things because of the new shitty changes that are made. If they want the old bodies back, just do it, I'm sure stefan would approve if a lot of people asked nicely.

[Mman]

Originally posted by Valder


You can't keep telling people to make new things because of the new shitty changes that are made. If they want the old bodies back, just do it, I'm sure stefan would approve if a lot of people asked nicely.

Agreed, there is no need to make shitty heads that go well with shitty bodies.

[ZanderX]

Originally posted by Mman


Ok replace "half" with "all" and that sentence is 100% true.
New bodies are the worst thing ever to plague 2k1. Hats that looked great on your character with old bodies now look stupid with the new bodies, there are STILL ganis that haven't been fixed to work with them, walking is slow as hell, and the bodies are all ugly. There, now you know why the new bodies are flat out horrible. This is the worst mistake ever made by 2k1 staff, and I hope they have the brain cells to realize this and reverse it for the good of 2k1.


If you like the new bodies, please tell me what you are smoking.

HEY NIMROD FOR THE NINE THOUSANDTH TIME, IT WAS NOT 2001 STAFF IT WAS STEFAN.

[Brad]

Originally posted by ZanderX


HEY NIMROD FOR THE NINE THOUSANDTH TIME, IT WAS NOT 2001 STAFF IT WAS STEFAN.

ask him 2 change it sex machine

[ZanderX]

Originally posted by Valder


You can't keep telling people to make new things because of the new shitty changes that are made. If they want the old bodies back, just do it, I'm sure stefan would approve if a lot of people asked nicely.

Then hey, ask him nicely first before I do it and lose my job.

No one seems to understand how the system works...

[Mman]

Originally posted by ZanderX


Then hey, ask him nicely first before I do it and lose my job.

No one seems to understand how the system works...

I know exactly how the system works. People who kiss stefan's ass get put in high positions. People who ever say they disagree with anything he does are fired on the spot. I swear stefan is nothing but a power freak. Ask him nicely, you say? Why the hell should anyone do that? It has no effect. HE likes them so therefore despite the fact that NO ONE ELSE DOES they will stay. This is what makes people leave , and is a prime example of flat out ignorant people in powerful positions.

[Boozy_Bravo]

Obviously, something here has to change. Does Cyberjoueurs expect people to pay for a product that they are not satisfied with?
Since Stefan seems to be so adamant about G2001 using the newer bodies and the majority of the players want to be able to use the older bodies, perhaps a compromise could be reached. The most obvious solution would be to implement a system of choice for the players. This way, they could decide which style of body they want to use for themselves.
Another problem here is that the G2001 management seems to be to intimidated by Stefan, and is afraid to make a such major decision by themselves. Come on now, that is ridiculous. Stefan has left you in charge of his world, because he trusts you and your judgment. You are the ones that are on here daily, not Stefan, and I am sure that if you were to revert back to the older bodies, he would accept your decision and move on.

[ZanderX]

Originally posted by Boozy_Bravo
Obviously, something here has to change. Does Cyberjoueurs expect people to pay for a product that they are not satisfied with?
Since Stefan seems to be so adamant about G2001 using the newer bodies and the majority of the players want to be able to use the older bodies, perhaps a compromise could be reached. The most obvious solution would be to implement a system of choice for the players. This way, they could decide which style of body they want to use for themselves.
Another problem here is that the G2001 management seems to be to intimidated by Stefan, and is afraid to make a such major decision by themselves. Come on now, that is ridiculous. Stefan has left you in charge of his world, because he trusts you and your judgment. You are the ones that are on here daily, not Stefan, and I am sure that if you were to revert back to the older bodies, he would accept your decision and move on.

I'm not intimidated at all. It's a simple matter of me keeping my job and keeping 2k1 running smoothly like it is right now as opposed to being fired and the whole thing falling apart.