Horrible Editor Bug

[LilNiglet]

Ocassionally, the editor erases the entire level when you press play. Of course, this is easily fixed by saving the level each time, but sometimes you forget. You can tell it's happening when you try to play, then the editor toolbars go all wierd, and then when you press F4 to go back to editor, everything is replaced by that annoying grass tile.

Oh, Stefan, in speaking of that tile, fix it so it fills the level with NORMAL grass tiles, not the wierd tuft-o-grass one when you create a new level.

[Admins]

Hmmm when exactly does that happen?
Does it actually go in the playing mode?

[yoshee15]

Originally posted by LilNiglet
Ocassionally, the editor erases the entire level when you press play. Of course, this is easily fixed by saving the level each time, but sometimes you forget. You can tell it's happening when you try to play, then the editor toolbars go all wierd, and then when you press F4 to go back to editor, everything is replaced by that annoying grass tile.

Oh, Stefan, in speaking of that tile, fix it so it fills the level with NORMAL grass tiles, not the wierd tuft-o-grass one when you create a new level.

it fills it with that one because the graal2002 picso.png's 1,1 tile is normal grass. On your pics1 its the left grass tile

[PlazmaX]

Stefan i know this is off topic and all but I need to know when the guild admin will start doing his job and where i send my new heads in to get uploaded?

[Admins]

Also please check if the level is possible saved in the
main Graal folder instead of the folder where you tried
to add the level (saved but then not found when loading
it or so)

[Admins]

Originally posted by yoshee15

it fills it with that one because the graal2002 picso.png's 1,1 tile is normal grass. On your pics1 its the left grass tile

Yes I understand that, I meant when does that erasing of
the level happen, is it possible to like make a list of steps
to do reproduce the error?

[Admins]

Originally posted by PlazmaX
Stefan i know this is off topic and all but I need to know when the guild admin will start doing his job and where i send my new heads in to get uploaded?

I don't know who is guild admin. I think heads can
be uploaded by the gfx people with admin panel
access.

[PlazmaX]

Stefan don't ignore me just answer me since you wont answer your email or forum pms

[Admins]

Originally posted by PlazmaX
Stefan don't ignore me just answer me since you wont answer your email or forum pms

?

[PlazmaX]

When will the guild admin start doing his job he isnt approving the guilds or anything ive been waiting. Also where do i send a head to be uploaded on graal2001 p2p?

[yoshee15]

Originally posted by Stefan


Yes I understand that, I meant when does that erasing of
the level happen, is it possible to like make a list of steps
to do reproduce the error?

hmm...i am not the guy who started the thread, but go into the editor, make a level and lay some tiles down. then, without saving the level, play it and see what happens.

[yoshee15]

Originally posted by PlazmaX
When will the guild admin start doing his job he isnt approving the guilds or anything ive been waiting. Also where do i send a head to be uploaded on graal2001 p2p?

well, im pretty sure Bhala left that job, and Poizon has taken over..it may not be happening so fast now due to the changes

[PlazmaX]

And where do i send my heads? Somewhere where they actually will be put up within a few days instead of 2 months

[yoshee15]

Originally posted by PlazmaX
And where do i send my heads? Somewhere where they actually will be put up within a few days instead of 2 months

all i know is for hats you just post it on Graphics Forum, and from there it gets uploaded

[Admins]

Originally posted by yoshee15

hmm...i am not the guy who started the thread, but go into the editor, make a level and lay some tiles down. then, without saving the level, play it and see what happens.

I have no problem with that, may be its fixed in my version

[yoshee15]

Originally posted by Stefan


I have no problem with that, may be its fixed in my version

are you using the public version?

[Admins]

Originally posted by yoshee15

are you using the public version?

Um no always working on improving it

[Sir Triclops]

Originally posted by PlazmaX
When will the guild admin start doing his job he isnt approving the guilds or anything ive been waiting. Also where do i send a head to be uploaded on graal2001 p2p?

First of all, my job isn't to approve every guild request that isn't submitted.
I'm doing my job and to be honest, I think I'm doing very well. I'm not going to explain it 100 times a day so i'll just point you to the thread.
http://forums.graal2001.com/forums/s...threadid=21166

[Kasuagi]

Originally posted by Stefan


Um no always working on improving it

Stefan, I think he meant are you using a special Graal editor or the public released version (current one)

[Slaktmaster]

Stefan, NPC's with toweapons in them gets deleted from the level of you change the NPC image and play the level.

[Slaktmaster]

Originally posted by Kasuagi


Stefan, I think he meant are you using a special Graal editor or the public released version (current one)

And that was the question he answered, yo!

[yoshee15]

Originally posted by Stefan


Um no always working on improving it

yea, so the public version probabaly has that error, not yours.

[LilNiglet]

Originally posted by Stefan


I have no problem with that, may be its fixed in my version

I think the problem is that the new levels are automatticly saved as new#.nw, i think they should be manually named =X

[Tyhm]

I think the problem is map caching. If you save a level, it seems to save the levels connected to it based on what they looked like when you loaded them. If you edit level13.graal, then edit level14.graal and close it, then finish editing level13.graal and play it, it overwrites the newer level14.graal with its cached version.
Solution: reload the levels on tab-in, save on tab-out? That way if I add a tree to the edge of level13, then click on the level14 tab, voila, the tree is there. I add a bush around the tree, click back to the level13 tab, there's the bush just past the level edge.

[Admins]

Ok I have changed the thing to save ALL open levels
when you click on the play button, not only the
active level. You will see some improvements in the
new graal version that will soon be released.

[Slaktmaster]

Thanks a lot!

Did you add it so I records all changed levels on the current map as well? Because when working with a map you have to save each level wich is easy to forget when you work with it like that. And if you closed Graal with 10 changed levels map the map it would only prompt to save the active one.
(I'm talking about connected levels in editor)

[Admins]

Yes it is handling it in 'sessions', which means it
has a list of levels you have visited, and when you
click on save then it saves the current levels plus
all modified levels

[Warcaptain]

Originally posted by PlazmaX
Stefan don't ignore me just answer me since you wont answer your email or forum pms

althought it was offtopic--

i agree with you

stefan actualy told me to pm him something, and then he never answered me, then when i send another one asking why he didnt answer, he acts like he never got the first one, when it says he did.

[Slaktmaster]

Originally posted by Stefan
Yes it is handling it in 'sessions', which means it
has a list of levels you have visited, and when you
click on save then it saves the current levels plus
all modified levels

Wee, thanks!

Did you look into the disappearing weapon NPC bug?
Because that is different from the unsaved levels problem.

[Admins]

Um I think it is the same
(has problems to save it and then loads an empty
level)

[yoshee15]

Originally posted by Stefan
Ok I have changed the thing to save ALL open levels
when you click on the play button, not only the
active level. You will see some improvements in the
new graal version that will soon be released.

hmm, i dislike how it saves all open levels =\ lots of times i open a level not to modify it, but to take something from it to add to another. i ususally then close it without saving...but i can get used to it

[Admins]

no i meant when you have more than one level in the
editor open, both modified, and then press on 'play'

[Sir Triclops]

There should be a "save all" button, and "close all" button on the editor.

Another idea:
A cool thing would be to add a projects thing to the editor. That way you could "create project" "open project"

When you create a project, it makes a folder where all levels are placed in new folder(named after the project name).



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*NOTE*
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These are just ideas and are only posted here because they have to do with the editor and Stefan is viewing this thread a lot.

[Yakuna2001]

Originally posted by Sir Triclops
There should be a "save all" button, and "close all" button on the editor.

Another idea:
A cool thing would be to add a projects thing to the editor. That way you could "create project" "open project"

When you create a project, it makes a folder where all levels are placed in new folder(named after the project name).



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*NOTE*
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These are just ideas and are only posted here because they have to do with the editor and Stefan is viewing this thread a lot.

i like that idea..... alot... sorta like rpg maker 2000... u got that option, makes life very easy :@-D

[Warcaptain]

I SERIOUSLy hope the fixed version is released soon, this one makes me very mad.

the old one wouldnt let you play without saving, now this one lets you play but deletes everything in the level.

so i forget to save and lose my hard work.
i spent 2 hours on levels and they were deleted by the damn editor bug.

[Yakuna2001]

Originally posted by Warcaptain
I SERIOUSLy hope the fixed version is released soon, this one makes me very mad.

the old one wouldnt let you play without saving, now this one lets you play but deletes everything in the level.

so i forget to save and lose my hard work.
i spent 2 hours on levels and they were deleted by the damn editor bug.

NO THEY WERE DELETED BY YOUR STUPIDITY IN NOT SAVING!!!!!

[Warcaptain]

Originally posted by Yakuna2001

NO THEY WERE DELETED BY YOUR STUPIDITY IN NOT SAVING!!!!!

as usual, your maturity ceases to amaze me.

[Tyhm]

See, currently, you edit two levels, play one, and the other one is automatically reloaded - all your changes are lost. Not fun, especially if you're trying to get something to work on both levels, and you lose your train of thought....

[Warcaptain]

Originally posted by Tyhm
See, currently, you edit two levels, play one, and the other one is automatically reloaded - all your changes are lost. Not fun, especially if you're trying to get something to work on both levels, and you lose your train of thought....

I never had that happen to me yet *knocks on wood*
but I can see how it would happen.

and yes, it would piss me off big time.

[Admins]

He it probably didn't happen to me because I am
saving stuff all 10 seconds or so, getting power failures
and stuff too often (got unplugged from the internet
at the office three times today x-x)