Stefan, please read.

[omni-m00gle]

I don't know if this is supposed to go to a different forum, but I doon't care. I'm very pissed off.

Stefan, you made GhostPirate the Kingdoms Admin for Graal2001.

That was a BIG MISTAKE.

Today, the Dustarians, IN A ROLEPLAYING EVENT, tcleverly and strategically took over the Zormites, in order to give Zawk the throne. We did this because Zak is a really crappy RPer, and we felt we need to keep the Kingdoms in full RP order, as that's what they're there for.

But GhostPirate seems to think he has the right to not allow this.

The time is now 1.07AM for me, in England. We finished taking over in the AFTERNOON. PM, for crying out loud. It's about 12AM over here, when suddenly a swarm of ex-Zormite that we kicked out for not being loyal to the new King, rush in, and kill me, and Zawk. With them is Zak.

I run back in, and chase to the barracks. I got him to 0.5 health, and he pauses. GOOD ROLEPLAYING THERE! I start typing, and he runs away again, and goes to a bedroom, where he pauses again, and eatsan ice cream cone i believe, which heals him to 5 hearts. I had about 1 heart left, and I managed to get him to 2.5 hearts before he killed me. So, I respawn of course, and come after him again. He then calls me a bad Rper because I respawned, and runs away again. I chase him to the throne, and suddenly GhostPirate joins his side, saying, "Malak your dead arent you".

I was VERY pissed off, to say the least. What the hell kind of Kingdom Admin, who I also would say is our general RolePlaying Admin, would let a bunch of ****ing *****s take over the castle, un-strategically, and then GIVE THEM THE POWER TO DO SO? Yes, that's right, GhostPirate then gave himself permission to give Zak the ability to add and remove tags. He added in all of his friends (who, i might add, I killed many times, and they respawned. but i;m the bad Rper here, ofc ourse.), and presumably he's gotten rid of Zawk's power.

This is BULLSHIT, Stefan. Its bad enough these guys were let into the castle and allowed to do this by the Kingdoms Admin, but he actually SUPPORTS them, and gave them power!

What the HELL kind of KingdomAdmin is he? A shitty one, that's what.

I vote for a new one. I'd like to vote for myself, but really, it doens't matter, so long as it's someone who knows how to RP, and isn't a ****ing IDIOT like Ghost Pirate.

Excuse all of my swearing, but I'm quite pissed off at his irresponsibility and horrible work as an Admin. I wouldn't ve surprised if he started abusing his RC, next.

Anyone who agrees with me, reply to do this, and also make sure to note if you'd like someone specific to be the new Kingdoms Admin (who should really be called the RolePlaying Admin).

GhostPirate, you suck. You're one of the worst Rpers I've ever seen, and I've felt this way about you for ages, because I;'ve NEVER, EVER seen you progress from saying "yaar" and the occassional "I'll have ye soul". You're an idiot for thinking a "Pirate Crew" is a KINGDOM, and you're especially an idiot for thinking a pirate would call himself "Ghost Pirate".

Thanks.
Mal

[ZanderX]

I could not have said it any better myself.

[Crono Illusion]

I suggest we get a non-member of any kingdom on Graal 2001/2002/whatever version you're on now who can roleplay really ****ing well to have the RP admin job. They wouldn't be biased towards anyone, and would have the smarts to sort out situations if necessary.

[Torankusu]

you are cutting it a little slim there, crono.

[omni-m00gle]

Oh, and might I mention that the only reason Zak has a lot of supporters is because they're all *****S who CAN NOT RP, and thus are not used to being led by someone who CAN, i.e: Hawk.

[ZanderX]

Also, a note that Hawk and I both agree on:

We killed Zak so Hawk could be Emperor.


and yet, Zak mysteriously RETURNS TO LIFE TO BECOME EMPEROR@!

I'm sorry. Bullshit. I cannot stand it.

[omni-m00gle]

Originally posted by Crono Illusion
I suggest we get a non-member of any kingdom on Graal 2001/2002/whatever version you're on now who can roleplay really ****ing well to have the RP admin job. They wouldn't be biased towards anyone, and would have the smarts to sort out situations if necessary.

I would be willing to leave Dustari if I could take the job to organise graal2001's RP. My character doesn't like being in a Kingdom, anyway, that's why I asked Kamuii if I could be a class that gets to travel away all the time.

[Faheria_LAT1]

Originally posted by omni-m00gle


I would be willing to leave Dustari if I could take the job to organise graal2001's RP. My character doesn't like being in a Kingdom, anyway, that's why I asked Kamuii if I could be a class that gets to travel away all the time.

Spy ;D or something..
Bleh, anyway, this will always happen.. as long as there are idiots on Graal 2001, this kind of MRP (*****ic RP) will happen
Let's hope that this will never happen on G2K2 =\

[TrueHeaT]

The takeover of Zormite required a lot of skill and was pulled of beautifully. The only thing wrong was Zak's bad RPing, pausing, hiding in CS and etc.

As far as I'm concerned there shouldn't be an RP admin, it's not fair when someone who isn't RPing or directly involved in the takeover has the power to decide the outcome.

Zawk and his troops took over Zormite fair and square.

[RamiAharonov]

what exactly does an rp admin do? how does it require rc?

[Torankusu]

Editing the flags to change the Kingdom Owners, make improvements, add new kingdoms, warp from kingdom to kingdom, etc.

I don't think that someone that leads a kingdom, or is in one, should be Kingdoms Admin.

[omni-m00gle]

Originally posted by RamiAharonov
what exactly does an rp admin do? how does it require rc?

Exactly. Why does there need to be RC involved?

A RP Admin should merely have the tag in order to have the attention of idiots who won't listen to a normal player, i.e: me. With the tag, they can simply say what is right and what is wrong. RP Admins can't disturb RP Events, nor help in any way. Really, you're right, we don't need one, but if we have to have one, it needs to be a fair one.

[_0AfTeRsHoCk0_]

There are certain boundries in role-playing. One is that you can't start up a stupid rebellion 15 minutes aftera a major event happened. Did Zawk even have time to breathe between events? Assess the situation and being recruiting? No...

So I guess next time a kingdom just under went a major event I'll just run in alone, pause on the throne and call Ghost Pirate in to give me the King's flag

[Chaaz]

we did it unstratigically huh after we planed it for about half and hour got inside men in there (thaks btw) then we busted in there and beat the hell out of you guys i killed you once befor you went after Zak and i also killed Zawk you guys wanna say we did it unstratigically i killed you in the throne room lets not forget that you lowered the bridge after the fact to let the dustaris in there you can say all sots of things but the truth is you lost to 8 people and you guys had 15 or 20 to ya dont say stuff you cant back up
~thats all from Zathrex~

[magicvader]

Why dose anyone care that we zormites cant rp just refuse to rp with us then if you think zak cant rp or maybe get some one to teach our sucky rping members how to?

[Lyndzey]

I find it hard to believe that Zak would come back in less than a graalian week, and would already have plans to take over the kingdom. Taking over a kingdom requires time, and Zak did not have time. The Jinshin take over of Samurai was planned out for well over a real week.

[spi]

it isnt that fair to take away someones kingship/emperorship/whatever

[omni-m00gle]

Originally posted by Chaaz
we did it unstratigically huh after we planed it for about half and hour got inside men in there (thaks btw) then we busted in there and beat the hell out of you guys i killed you once befor you went after Zak and i also killed Zawk you guys wanna say we did it unstratigically i killed you in the throne room lets not forget that you lowered the bridge after the fact to let the dustaris in there you can say all sots of things but the truth is you lost to 8 people and you guys had 15 or 20 to ya dont say stuff you cant back up
~thats all from Zathrex~

Zawk and I were the ONLY ONES in the throne room. It takes a lot of strategy and skill to kill two unprepared people.

[Valder]

Well, I think that if someone pauses during an RP they should be kicked out of the kingdom and if the entire kingdom does it even though it's been around for a while the other kingdoms should be allowed to destroy that kingdom and that kingdom should stay dead forever.

[master_ball]

Well,you are probaly just jealous of Ghost Pirate and Zak.Well Zawk is a retard.He kills his own people.Then he deletes everyones tags,then he changes the people that still have zormite in there name to "I SUCK".So stop your yapping!

[ZanderX]

Originally posted by Chaaz
we did it unstratigically huh after we planed it for about half and hour got inside men in there (thaks btw) then we busted in there and beat the hell out of you guys i killed you once befor you went after Zak and i also killed Zawk you guys wanna say we did it unstratigically i killed you in the throne room lets not forget that you lowered the bridge after the fact to let the dustaris in there you can say all sots of things but the truth is you lost to 8 people and you guys had 15 or 20 to ya dont say stuff you cant back up
~thats all from Zathrex~

YOU ARE AN IDIOT, LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA

[Sildae]

This is evil.
Ghost Pirate really should not have done this.
It was a cool RPing Event, took lots of time (and nerves *looks at Zak, and this silly ET person helping him*), and then this admin comes and undoes everything. Very RPing...

[ZanderX]

Originally posted by master_ball
Well,you are probaly just jealous of Ghost Pirate and Zak.Well Zawk is a retard.He kills his own people.Then he deletes everyones tags,then he changes the people that still have zormite in there name to "I SUCK".So stop your yapping!

just like zathrex...


YOU ARE AN IDIOT, LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA

[Birdbird_0]

Guys this happends, If Ghost Pirate made a mistake than thats his fualt, Falados and I are making a whole new battle and death system so when you die, you CANNOT enter the battle areana ither, theer will be 100's of trigers and markers to make the battle good so you can monitor it when you are dead or the kingdom leader, you die, you cann't go back in the levels again, to ocupy a territory you have to capture certain markers with so many varaiables in place. This system should stop crap like this, sorry to close the thread guys, but this is a point the finger and scream thread, if you have any issues, bring it up with Stefan Loriel or me, pm them do not flame the bords, sorry.

[Birdbird_0]

Due to public outcry, I will allow this tread to continue, just don't flame back and forth, argue your opinyons on this, got it?

[ZanderX]

Originally posted by Birdbird_0
Due to public outcry, I will allow this tread to continue, just don't flame back and forth, argue your opinyons on this, got it?

okay.

my opinion is that i have lost all respect for ghost pirate and graal 2001.

[psihunter]

*sigh*

I can't please everybody in the world..why do I even try?

[TrueHeaT]

Originally posted by psihunter
*sigh*

I can't please everybody in the world..why do I even try?

Don't worry about pleasing people. Worry about making good decisions and doing what makes sense.
Pleasing people is not the point of your job.

[omni-m00gle]

Originally posted by ZanderX


okay.

my opinion is that i have lost all respect for ghost pirate and graal 2001.

My opinion is the latter. I was even just jailed by Hyped without any warning, simply because the Zormites who want Zak to rule were PMing him/her non stop. I was released because Hyped notice the error in doing so, and apologised.

[Crono Illusion]

Originally posted by master_ball
Well,you are probaly just jealous of Ghost Pirate and Zak.Well Zawk is a retard.He kills his own people.Then he deletes everyones tags,then he changes the people that still have zormite in there name to "I SUCK".So stop your yapping!

you're the worst gimmick EVER.

[psihunter]

Originally posted by TrueHeaT


Don't worry about pleasing people. Worry about making good decisions and doing what makes sense.
Pleasing people is not the point of your job.

Your right, as should be, everything came so sudden I didn't even know what the hell was going on when this all happen thats why more or less everybody is unhappy


Kamuii, I know your the perfectist, I repect and fear...I really wish you could of waited till I gave you a ok...or this wouldn't be happening right now..I guess you did PM of this but never happen to get it =X Did you PM the oppossing partys of this RP event?

I know in damn hell that I cannot fix or even save what has progressed into day...or even change it...

[Python523]

MUST other kingdoms have the power to take over others?

[_0AfTeRsHoCk0_]

See, now I am beginning to question this whole process in which we role-play

*Dustari calls up Zormite*
Dustari: Would you like to role-play? We want to take your castle over
Zormites: OK
Dustari: See you on the battlefield, say around....tea time?
Zormites: OK, see you then. I'll make sure I warn everyone about an attack we aren't supposed to know of (element of surprise)
Dustari: See you then. By the way, out spies are <insertname> and <insertname>, so please don't take away their tags until we are done role-playing

[ZanderX]

Originally posted by Python523
MUST other kingdoms have the power to take over others?

Yes.

[_0AfTeRsHoCk0_]

Originally posted by Python523
MUST other kingdoms have the power to take over others?

THEN WHAT THE HELL IS THE POINT IF ROLE-PLAYING?
You fight and fight and fight all in vain, realizing that you will never win because you cannot defeat the opposing enemy. It's stupid. People fight for a cause

[psihunter]

Originally posted by _0AfTeRsHoCk0_
See, now I am beginning to question this whole process in which we role-play

*Dustari calls up Zormite*
Dustari: Would you like to role-play? We want to take your castle over
Zormites: OK
Dustari: See you on the battlefield, say around....tea time?
Zormites: OK, see you then. I'll make sure I warn everyone about an attack we aren't supposed to know of (element of surprise)
Dustari: See you then. By the way, out spies are <insertname> and <insertname>, so please don't take away their tags until we are done role-playing

Your point is correct however
We all have real lifes correct? Sometimes we must make sure one king is not so busy with other things that he can go with the RP.
I always did this when I was to RP with Kamuii...And even when we did RP with Zormite did the same thing...

If I would have it to be a suprise I'd simply say Pirates and Dustari are going to have a RP event or what not..

[Faheria_LAT1]

Originally posted by psihunter
Did you PM the oppossing partys of this RP event?

depends..

An Official war: Both parties meet at one battle field. They both organise everything on their side and then they appear on the battle field on the day they both agreed to.

Raids: The only way to find out about a kingdom preparing a raid or in this case, helping someone to take back the throne, is to have spys, if they dont, then they better be prepared ;D

Currently, the kingdoms need more organisation which I hope we'll see on Graal 2002. (Having Spys, guards etc) People really need to be serious about RPing.

[omni-m00gle]

maybe we can resolve this. ghost, perhaps you can organise this event so that we have a specific date as to when the battle will be, and a time. we'll give enough time to someone like falados or birdbird, in order for them to perhapd edit the levels to make them sparring zones, so we can't pause, and to make it so that when you die, you're dead until perhaps ressurected (after all, we only have 5 hearts, and ressurected can be limited). but i'm not a king of a kingdom, so i can't exactly agree to anything. but if we schedule the battle, and not the outcome, then things will e fair.

[omni-m00gle]

i'm going to bed now. 2.30am. goodnight

[psihunter]

Originally posted by omni-m00gle
maybe we can resolve this. ghost, perhaps you can organise this event so that we have a specific date as to when the battle will be, and a time. we'll give enough time to someone like falados or birdbird, in order for them to perhapd edit the levels to make them sparring zones, so we can't pause, and to make it so that when you die, you're dead until perhaps ressurected (after all, we only have 5 hearts, and ressurected can be limited). but i'm not a king of a kingdom, so i can't exactly agree to anything. but if we schedule the battle, and not the outcome, then things will e fair.

that is reasonable
I believe loriel is going to try to make some sort of RP NPC don't know full details however =X