Scamming Rule? - Page 2

RawPower · #41 07-28-2001, 10:54 PM

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Originally posted by Torankusu

I was talking about the Warning:

>>Beware of scammers, we can't do anything about the scammer unless you have a police witness, or enough people complain about the person. <<
(Note: It does not say it can be corrected by administration or is jailable.)

It basically says we cant take action UNLESS we have a police witness OR enough people complain about the person. This arguement is SO over! If you have any intelligence left what-so-ever you'd save it for a better cause..

View GraalOnline Profile · #42 07-28-2001, 10:55 PM

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Originally posted by Torankusu

It makes a difference? it was not posted anywhere, and Police are trying to enforce players that are un-aware of the newly made rule, so it is still wrong.

Its up to the police chief to inform the players of the new rules, I'm sorry but why do you blame graalwarrior then?
you were unaware of the new rules but iracious should inform the players so please don't blame him anymore...

RawPower · #43 07-28-2001, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Torankusu

I was talking about the Warning:

>>Beware of scammers, we can't do anything about the scammer unless you have a police witness, or enough people complain about the person. <<
(Note: It does not say it can be corrected by administration or is jailable.)

(Beowulf)
POLICE HAVE THE RIGHT TO ENFORCE THE LAW. THEY CAN DO "ANYTHING" ABOUT IT IF THEY WITNESS YOU. THAT MEANS JAIL AFTER WARNINGS, IDIOT.
God, when I was Police, we didn't put up with stupid people like this. We jailed them and our word was law. Now Police is filled with idiots.

GraalWarrior2k1 · #44 07-28-2001, 10:55 PM

Right, and i thank you for stoping, after you told me you were stoping, i didn't get anymore complaints, but until you started making a big deal about this on the forums, thats were it got out of hand.

Torankusu · #45 07-28-2001, 10:56 PM

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Originally posted by RawPower

It basically says we cant take action UNLESS we have a police witness OR enough people complain about the person. This arguement is SO over! If you have any intelligence left what-so-ever you'd save it for a better cause..

I AM AWARE OF THAT!@ THAT IS WHY NightLord AND Loriel REFUSE TO CORRECT THE SCAMMINGS, BECAUSE THE RULE ITSELF $#$@$ ITSELF OVER.

GraalWarrior2k1 · #46 07-28-2001, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by thotijn2

Its up to the police chief to inform the players of the new rules, I'm sorry but why do you blame graalwarrior then?
you were unaware of the new rules but iracious should inform the players so please don't blame him anymore...

GOOD POINT! STOP YELLING AT ME! I DID NOTHING WRONG!

Torankusu · #47 07-28-2001, 10:57 PM

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Originally posted by GraalWarrior2k1
Right, and i thank you for stoping, after you told me you were stoping, i didn't get anymore complaints, but until you started making a big deal about this on the forums, thats were it got out of hand.

Ono, so sorry. my Main Goal was to make the damn rule Public so you would be able to enforce it and probably stop "scamming". But Idiots like Beowulf and Shadrock had to take it like i was "punished" for it, which i was not.

View GraalOnline Profile · #48 07-28-2001, 10:58 PM

As i read through this thread then the one to blame is iracious..

-graalwarrior just did what iracios said to him...
-iracious should keep you informed of the new rules etc.

so please stop immediately saying he's a bad cop or something before you even know the half of the story...
thanks,

Yakuzo

RawPower · #49 07-28-2001, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Torankusu
I AM AWARE OF THAT!@ THAT IS WHY NightLord AND Loriel REFUSE TO CORRECT THE SCAMMINGS, BECAUSE THE RULE ITSELF $#$@$ ITSELF OVER.

"I was talking about the Warning:

>>Beware of scammers, we can't do anything about the scammer unless you have a police witness, or enough people complain about the person. <<
(Note: It does not say it can be corrected by administration or is jailable.)"

Are you an illiterate thick-headed *****!? WHY THE HECK ARE YOU ARGUEING IF YOUR AWARE OF THIS!? Your out of jail and nothing else is planned to happen to you! GO AWAY!

GraalWarrior2k1 · #50 07-28-2001, 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Torankusu

Ono, so sorry. my Main Goal was to make the damn rule Public so you would be able to enforce it and probably stop "scamming". But Idiots like Beowulf and Shadrock had to take it like i was "punished" for it, which i was not.

your right, lets get someone to make it public.

Torankusu · #51 07-28-2001, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by thotijn2
As i read through this thread then the one to blame is iracious..

-graalwarrior just did what iracios said to him...
-iracious should keep you informed of the new rules etc.

so please stop immediately saying he's a bad cop or something before you even know the half of the story...
thanks,

Yakuzo

I did not blame Iracious or Graal Warrior about a damn thing. But for some reason idiots like Beowulf and Shadrock, and apparently you, took it as if i was complaining about not being informed, and was punished..

I Was NOT , i was LET out thanks to Graal Warrior.

And am now informing the public on this so called 'rule'.

GraalWarrior2k1 · #52 07-28-2001, 11:00 PM

THANK YOU SHADROCK!

GraalWarrior2k1 · #53 07-28-2001, 11:01 PM

Wow, finally some sense in this thread.

GraalWarrior2k1 · #54 07-28-2001, 11:02 PM

NOW LETS ALL SHUTTUP.

Torankusu · #55 07-28-2001, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RawPower

"I was talking about the Warning:

>>Beware of scammers, we can't do anything about the scammer unless you have a police witness, or enough people complain about the person. <<
(Note: It does not say it can be corrected by administration or is jailable.)"

Are you an illiterate thick-headed *****!? WHY THE HECK ARE YOU ARGUEING IF YOUR AWARE OF THIS!? Your out of jail and nothing else is planned to happen to you! GO AWAY!

My god....

I was trying to Make the Rule Graal Warrior is trying to Enforce so it would make his Job alot easier.. WHAT is so hard to understand about that?

You'd feel the need to argue if you were called an idiot, and an idiotic *******.

RawPower · #56 07-28-2001, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Torankusu

I did not blame Iracious or Graal Warrior about a damn thing. But for some reason idiots like Beowulf and Shadrock, and apparently you, took it as if i was complaining about not being informed, and was punished..

I Was NOT , i was LET out thanks to Graal Warrior.

And am now informing the public on this so called 'rule'.

Posting a new rule? HAHA Heres a better rule, dont scam so you dont have to go through that rule...Sound better?

Torankusu · #57 07-28-2001, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RawPower

Posting a new rule? HAHA Heres a better rule, dont scam so you dont have to go through that rule...Sound better?

'idiotic *******'

RawPower · #58 07-28-2001, 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Torankusu

My god....

I was trying to Make the Rule Graal Warrior is trying to Enforce so it would make his Job alot easier.. WHAT is so hard to understand about that?

You'd feel the need to argue if you were called an idiot, and an idiotic *******.

That is not the rule that is in the Police Guide, It might be a better way of handling things but what if there were no admins on? Or they didnt reply to the problem? We have to take action ourselves!

GraalWarrior2k1 · #59 07-28-2001, 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RawPower

Posting a new rule? HAHA Heres a better rule, dont scam so you dont have to go through that rule...Sound better?

right.

RawPower · #60 07-28-2001, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Torankusu
'idiotic *******'

Yes continue to throw pointless posts at me criticizing my ability to learn and how im a jerk. Because your wrong...If your smart you would stop posting here this arguement is over, whats done is done. I will not reply after this post.

Torankusu · #61 07-28-2001, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RawPower

That is not the rule that is in the Police Guide, It might be a better way of handling things but what if there were no admins on? Or they didnt reply to the problem? We have to take action ourselves!

THEN STOP TRYING TO ENFORCE IT.

NightLord and Loriel have BOTH verified that the current scamming rull is not plain spoken enough to cause the scammed items to be returned!

THE END.

GraalWarrior2k1 · #62 07-28-2001, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RawPower

That is not the rule that is in the Police Guide, It might be a better way of handling things but what if there were no admins on? Or they didnt reply to the problem? We have to take action ourselves!

Thats exactly what happen. I asked Loriel to return the hats, but he logged off his RC, so i took action myself. But then, toran and i figured out, he should be there because that rule was never out to the public, so i let him go, and he said he would stop scamming. It basically ended there. so can we end it here?

Torankusu · #63 07-28-2001, 11:09 PM

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Originally posted by GraalWarrior2k1

Thats exactly what happen. I asked Loriel to return the hats, but he logged off his RC, so i took action myself. But then, toran and i figured out, he should be there because that rule was never out to the public, so i let him go, and he said he would stop scamming. It basically ended there. so can we end it here?

because idiots like Shadrock have to attempt to piss people off just because they are scammers, and are perfectly aware of their wrong doing.

GraalWarrior2k1 · #64 07-28-2001, 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Torankusu
THEN STOP TRYING TO ENFORCE IT.

NightLord and Loriel have BOTH verified that the current scamming rull is not plain spoken enough to cause the scammed items to be returned!

THE END.

Cant we just make scamming illegal? I mean, how many problems would that solve!?

manton · #65 07-28-2001, 11:11 PM

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Originally posted by GraalWarrior2k1

Cant we just make scamming illegal? I mean, how many problems would that solve!?

If we just made it LEGAL it would solve alot of problems as well.

GraalWarrior2k1 · #66 07-28-2001, 11:12 PM

True, you could look at it both ways, but they should still make the rules clearer.

Torankusu · #67 07-28-2001, 11:12 PM

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Originally posted by manton

If we just made it LEGAL it would solve alot of problems as well.

I think it currently is Legal. Sorry Beowulf if i have offended you by going by the Creator's words.

RawPower · #68 07-28-2001, 11:12 PM

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Originally posted by manton

If we just made it LEGAL it would solve alot of problems as well.

Howso? Money problems?

Torankusu · #69 07-28-2001, 11:13 PM

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Originally posted by GraalWarrior2k1
True, you could look at it both ways, but they should still make the rules clearer.

That is my 2nd point, and IceHawk , NightLord, and Loriel agree.

GraalWarrior2k1 · #70 07-28-2001, 11:14 PM

Well the rules clearly state that if i witnessed it, then its a crime and i did witness it. but bah... im getting sick of this.

manton · #71 07-28-2001, 11:14 PM

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Originally posted by RawPower

Howso? Money problems?

Because if people complained about being scammed,the police could just say, "Can't do anything about it,sorry."

GraalWarrior2k1 · #72 07-28-2001, 11:16 PM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
That is my 2nd point, and IceHawk , NightLord, and Loriel agree.

Then OMG! Lets make it illegal or legal already!

Torankusu · #73 07-28-2001, 11:18 PM

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Originally posted by GraalWarrior2k1

Then OMG! Lets make it illegal or legal already!

Stefan says legal, and he has the highest authority, along with unixmad, here.

RawPower · #74 07-28-2001, 11:19 PM

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Originally posted by Torankusu

Stefan says legal, and he has the highest authority, along with unixmad, here.

Ultimate the Panda (Police) (7/28/01 12:17:48 PM):
Guild message:
Scamming is legal unless you have a police witness, or enough people complain about the person.

GraalWarrior2k1 · #75 07-28-2001, 11:20 PM

Well, i g2g now, but ill be back tonight.

GraalWarrior2k1 · #76 07-28-2001, 11:20 PM

wait, i know, STEFAN! what do you think?!

Torankusu · #77 07-28-2001, 11:23 PM

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Originally posted by GraalWarrior2k1
wait, i know, STEFAN! what do you think?!

ugh. Stefan has stated that Scamming is Legal. He did not add "unless a police witnesses it, and then you can call an admin to !%$# with his account."

But i would really like him to reply with a final statement about Scamming. (When it is illegal/legal, or if it is plainly illegal or legal!)

RawPower · #78 07-28-2001, 11:24 PM

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Originally posted by Torankusu

ugh. Stefan has stated that Scamming is Legal. He did not add "unless a police witnesses it, and then you can call an admin to !%$# with his account."

You do not understand. The POLICE rules simply state that is what to do. Im not going to break the rules. Maybe Stefan should fix this if they are wrong

GraalWarrior2k1 · #79 07-28-2001, 11:24 PM

Kay...

Iracious · #80 07-29-2001, 12:06 AM

Nowhere else on the rules page does it say what would happen if you broke a certain rule. I went ahead and added it to the current rule.

updated-
"Beware of scammers, we can't do anything without sufficient evidence. If there is a Police witness, or enough people complain about the person, then the scammer will be jailed until the item is returned. If the item is still not returned, the Police member will contact an admin and have the item removed."

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