Delete Ctf!

[BlackSolider]

Moderation and variety might be the key, but they are limited by a small and very, very selective playercount.

Many people don't join several events b/c they don't like them a lot. That makes sense, but Classic used to be able to get past this problem when we had 25-35 people online. But now that we're scratching to get to 15-25, if we're missing 2-4 people per event, it really kills things.

Sometimes you just got to keep hosting the same dozen events to get as many people as possible, especially in current conditions. When we have higher playercounts, we can open up the variety more since there are enough people joining to make up for the few who don't like that particular event.

[Mark Sir Link]

how come people to continue to ignore me whenever I ask why they care so much about an imaginary ticket inflation

[BlackSolider]

It's really not that hard to understand.

Supply and demand. When the supply of tickets is so massive, the demand goes down. Thus people don't care as much when they win/lose b/c they already have hundreds of tickets (which they can't use due to either having all the prizes or not wanting to buy them b/c they suck.)

When you have 300 tickets, does winning 2 more really make you happy? Not for most people. The more you have of something, the less it matters to you. The harder something is to obtain, the more you value it.

The point is, since people have so many tickets, they don't have the extra motivational drive to try harder to win events. Winning and losing matters more when something is on the line. When you don't care about what's on the line, you don't care as much about the event nor about winning. People wouldn't leave events as much if they cared about tickets. People would join events more often, even if they didn't like them, if they cared about tickets.

It's pretty simple duda. People aren't motivated to try harder because the prize is something they already have in vast excess.

[xnervNATx]

Originally Posted by BlackSolider

It's really not that hard to understand.

Supply and demand. When the supply of tickets is so massive, the demand goes down. Thus people don't care as much when they win/lose b/c they already have hundreds of tickets (which they can't use due to either having all the prizes or not wanting to buy them b/c they suck.)

When you have 300 tickets, does winning 2 more really make you happy? Not for most people. The more you have of something, the less it matters to you. The harder something is to obtain, the more you value it.

The point is, since people have so many tickets, they don't have the extra motivational drive to try harder to win events. Winning and losing matters more when something is on the line. When you don't care about what's on the line, you don't care as much about the event nor about winning. People wouldn't leave events as much if they cared about tickets. People would join events more often, even if they didn't like them, if they cared about tickets.

It's pretty simple duda. People aren't motivated to try harder because the prize is something they already have in vast excess.

talk for urself
im motivated to win them until i have 1k.

[fa12]

*coughs* In the end this won't really be taken seriously, nothing will happen and eventually no one will care.*takes a sip of hot cider* Just leave ctf, and it's not true that all us GCs only host ctf, we try to host others the majority of times people don't participate blah blah blah or get enough for a 4 player event blah blah. If you say we GCs only host ctf fight me at Dozers asswipes.

[Mark Sir Link]

Originally Posted by BlackSolider

It's really not that hard to understand.

Supply and demand. When the supply of tickets is so massive, the demand goes down. Thus people don't care as much when they win/lose b/c they already have hundreds of tickets (which they can't use due to either having all the prizes or not wanting to buy them b/c they suck.)

it's a currency, not a good. The supply available to players is fixed while your personal supply may be big.

When you have 300 tickets, does winning 2 more really make you happy? Not for most people. The more you have of something, the less it matters to you. The harder something is to obtain, the more you value it.

that's for the individual to decide, and it would be a favorable circumstance if people like you and laura stopped playing events as it would give noobs a chance for once. However, since it seems like GCs are only willing to host for certain people, this doesn't happen.

The point is, since people have so many tickets, they don't have the extra motivational drive to try harder to win events. Winning and losing matters more when something is on the line. When you don't care about what's on the line, you don't care as much about the event nor about winning. People wouldn't leave events as much if they cared about tickets. People would join events more often, even if they didn't like them, if they cared about tickets.

That's the case for a few people but not the overwhelming majority.

It's pretty simple duda. People aren't motivated to try harder because the prize is something they already have in vast excess.

for what, 4 people?

[xnervNATx]

Originally Posted by Mark Sir Link

for what, 4 people?

count me out, i still try harder to win, because that what i want.

[BlackSolider]

Many people are bound to try harder when the prize given out is worth something to them, it's as simple as that.

[xnervNATx]

Originally Posted by BlackSolider

Many people are bound to try harder when the prize given out is worth something to them, it's as simple as that.

maybe for you its worth nothing atm(idc) but for someone else maybe its worth something.

[BlackSolider]

So having 700 tickets and not using them is worth something to you?

[DustyPorViva]

Only thing to do though is cut back on tickets and/or events... but that hurts the newbies more than it does the veterans. Release more stuff? Temporary fix, because eventually it'll just happen again. It's not like the whole server revolves around it, therefor you've got a lot of income and very little to spend it on(because it's only spent on event prizes).

I really don't think there is a way to fix it though... it was meant only as an incentive to win events and that's still its purpose(and should remain as such), but there have been so many events held to give players something to do that they've lost their purpose.

[Mark Sir Link]

Originally Posted by BlackSolider

Many people are bound to try harder when the prize given out is worth something to them, it's as simple as that.

many people being how many? 5? 6?

you don't seem to understand that high ticket counts affect very few players

[xnervNATx]

Originally Posted by BlackSolider

So having 700 tickets and not using them is worth something to you?

yes, having the most tickets. You dont seem to SEE that only you is giving a **** about it, talking like you do will not solve the problem and wont make people with high tickets counts start to think about wasting them in such bulll**** lol

[BlackSolider]

Grats, you have the most tickets...by about 300.

So when we release some new GC prizes, are you going to be glad, mad, or will you not spend your tickets on them?

[xnervNATx]

Originally Posted by BlackSolider

Grats, you have the most tickets...by about 300.

So when we release some new GC prizes, are you going to be glad, mad, or will you not spend your tickets on them?

might be glad, will read the effect of each for sure

[BlackSolider]

Ok so adding new prizes is ok.

But obviously a reset is not to you, correct?

[xnervNATx]

Originally Posted by BlackSolider

Ok so adding new prizes is ok.

But obviously a reset is not to you, correct?

correct

[BlackSolider]

Hypothetically say there was a ticket reset.

Would you motivated to try and have the most tickets again?

Or would you be so mad that you lost your tickets without compensation (assuming that is what happens,) that you wouldn't try super hard in events?

[xnervNATx]

Originally Posted by BlackSolider

Hypothetically say there was a ticket reset.

Would you motivated to try and have the most tickets again?

Or would you be so mad that you lost your tickets without compensation (assuming that is what happens,) that you wouldn't try super hard in events?

i would surely stop playing classic events forever

[BlackSolider]

Oh my.

Does that include with compensation? (Obviously there isn't a definitive "this is what we would give you in exchange for all your tickets" yet, so you can suggest your own ideas for compensation.)

[DutchGuy]

classic cant even get 10 players online at the same time, so we don't need to delete ctf. just stick with the low playercount

[MysticX2X]

Laura is a crybaby.

[EclipsedAngel]

They tried to put in a timer but you guys just kept cheating and resetting it.

[xnervNATx]

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

Laura is a crybaby.

ya mister "i quit because gotenks suck".

[fa12]

Mystic is the Classikage.