New GP'S.. ?

[littlekinky]

Ok, during daytime on zone there is no GP'S online, So im am thinking Zone should hire some GP'S This we prevent Harassment,abuseive language and many other things.


Please post what you think of hireing some new GP'S.

[Frazzle]

Originally Posted by littlekinky

Please post what you think of hireing some new GP'S.

I think there is a lack of GPs who can actually take action over incidents like Hackers and stuff. Maybe they could make some of the ET's, GP's because they'd have the experience.

[pooper200000]

A global is almost always online. If I find a hacker I usually don't have a problem finding someone to ban them.

[Frazzle]

Originally Posted by pooper200000

A global is almost always online.

Yeah but the trouble is, New players won't know how to contact a global. Especially if they're on other servers.

[pooper200000]

Originally Posted by Frazzle

I think there is a lack of GPs who can actually take action over incidents like Hackers and stuff. Maybe they could make some of the ET's, GP's because they'd have the experience.

So correct me if I am wrong, but you want to hire ET's to be GP's (With the ban rights?) but the ET would still have to be online so they could just as easily contact a global.

Originally Posted by Frazzle

Yeah but the trouble is, New players won't know how to contact a global. Especially if they're on other servers.

[Frazzle]

Originally Posted by pooper200000

So correct me if I am wrong, but you want to hire ET's to be GP's

Not just any ET, Someone responsible, Who wouldn't abuse or anything. Someone like Desear.

e: You would also be good as a GP.

[pooper200000]

Originally Posted by Frazzle

Not just any ET, Someone responsible, Who wouldn't abuse or anything. Someone like Desear.

e: You would also be good as a GP.

It isn't really necesary to toss around the GP rights.
Example: Mightylord banning Dan, Stefan, Unixmad, Jesse. Thankfully he forgot Ravenblade so Raven did unban Dan and Jesse.
We don't want to have someone on the edge abuse their rights. It is really just easier to contact a global so that no ET would be stuck in a position where they could abuse. While there could be advantages to having an ET with those rights, I think Jesse should be given GP rights before any ET is given them. (Evidence: Anubis quitting because Dante had more rights)

[Frazzle]

Originally Posted by pooper200000

It isn't really necesary to toss around the GP rights.
Example: Mightylord banning Dan, Stefan, Unixmad, Jesse. Thankfully he forgot Ravenblade so Raven did unban Dan and Jesse.
We don't want to have someone on the edge abuse their rights. It is really just easier to contact a global so that no ET would be stuck in a position where they could abuse. While there could be advantages to having an ET with those rights, I think Jesse should be given GP rights before any ET is given them. (Evidence: Anubis quitting because Dante had more rights)

Quite true. A simpler solution would be a Jail room. Isolate the rule breakers from the rest, Something an ET could do with a simple command without having rights and an RC.

[SolidSnake989]

Originally Posted by Frazzle

Quite true. A simpler solution would be a Jail room. Isolate the rule breakers from the rest, Something an ET could do with a simple command without having rights and an RC.

Way to give abusers another command to use!

[pooper200000]

Originally Posted by Frazzle

Quite true. A simpler solution would be a Jail room. Isolate the rule breakers from the rest, Something an ET could do with a simple command without having rights and an RC.

I think the /lock command really works fine. A /mute <account> command would be nice for extreme instances. If you want to isolate the rule breakers,
/closeplanet ctf
/unstick <rulebreaker1>
/kick <rulebreaker1>
Then they are stuck on the dropship with no one around them.

ET I think the best thing to do is to keep stuff the way it is and just give Jesse ban rights.

[Deas_Voice]

oh comon!
i mean, how often is hackers online while a ET is on..?
yeah i know it happends some times, but still..

Zone needs atlast 1 or 2 GP's whos just GP..
like make a new system for GP taged people so they can lock/unstick and ban
but not do Events?
-and its no point to say who will be a good GP right now

[blazeingonix]

No jails on zone.We don't need it.

[Frazzle]

Originally Posted by Deas_Voice

and its no point to say who will be a good GP right now

Did you not read the other post, Get a load of what MightyLord did with his rights. Of course they wouldn't let someone who isn't trustworthy and responsible have the job.

[Robin]

Originally Posted by pooper200000

It isn't really necesary to toss around the GP rights.
Example: Mightylord banning Dan, Stefan, Unixmad, Jesse.

You really think that Stefan and my friend cocalight could not unban themselves from a server, what with their full access to everything?

And even if you're banned on player, you're able to login with RC if you're staff.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Robin

You really think that Stefan and my friend cocalight could not unban themselves from a server, what with their full access to everything?

And even if you're banned on player, you're able to login with RC if you're staff.

What are you talking about? The almighty powers of Stefan?

PSHAW

There's no way the owner of Graal could unban themselves

[Donark]

Originally Posted by Frazzle

Did you not read the other post, Get a load of what MightyLord did with his rights. Of course they wouldn't let someone who isn't trustworthy and responsible have the job.

so im geussing frazzle wont nominate me =/

[Frazzle]

Originally Posted by Donark

so im geussing frazzle wont nominate me =/

Uhh?

[pooper200000]

Originally Posted by Deas_Voice

oh comon!
i mean, how often is hackers online while a ET is on..?
yeah i know it happends some times, but still..

Zone needs atlast 1 or 2 GP's whos just GP..
like make a new system for GP taged people so they can lock/unstick and ban
but not do Events?
-and its no point to say who will be a good GP right now

The problem is what if a GP is going to investigate a report of hackers. They warp to the player in question and are killed. So as to avoid that lets say we give them an ET tag. Then we are in the same situation again. Even if they have a tag just for GP'ing what is to stop them from hosting. Then if they want to lock someone or kick them from hacking on a dropship? Having people who are just GP's is an okay idea. I think it is simpler to just have the current number of GP's. The way you suggested a GP, they would have to make a whole new tag just for GP'ing. It is simpler to keep it the way it is with the ET's acting as GP's and then if they have problems they report them to whoever has ban rights.

Originally Posted by Robin

You really think that Stefan and my friend cocalight could not unban themselves from a server, what with their full access to everything?

I know Stefan and Unixmad can unban themselves but Dan and Jesse could not log in, even on RC. I am saying I don't think we should take the risk that such a situation could arise again.

[Deas_Voice]

Originally Posted by pooper200000

The problem is what if a GP is going to investigate a report of hackers. They warp to the player in question and are killed. So as to avoid that lets say we give them an ET tag. Then we are in the same situation again. Even if they have a tag just for GP'ing what is to stop them from hosting. Then if they want to lock someone or kick them from hacking on a dropship? Having people who are just GP's is an okay idea. I think it is simpler to just have the current number of GP's. The way you suggested a GP, they would have to make a whole new tag just for GP'ing. It is simpler to keep it the way it is with the ET's acting as GP's and then if they have problems they report them to whoever has ban rights.
I know Stefan and Unixmad can unban themselves but Dan and Jesse could not log in, even on RC. I am saying I don't think we should take the risk that such a situation could arise again.

well i ment like ET tag ... just that they cant host/giveitems/hire-/fire-PAs
so its quite smillar to ET but witout the ET host & other things related to Events Team'

and about that ML banned those people'
we could have use of an Admin GP with ban rights and the other GPs could have the edit comments right and list hackers in a comment named something like hackers or glishers, ect in the comment it could stake the accounts/ip/pcid?
-thats my idea

Edit: about that they can hack on the dropship, so do i think they wound rather be offline then hacking on sucha boring place. (if u hack u want to kill not to be running around)

[Deas_Voice]

Originally Posted by blazeingonix

No jails on zone.We don't need it.

ahh don't say that

you dont realy got ant fact about what's needed and what's not?

[Dan]

Originally Posted by pooper200000

I know Stefan and Unixmad can unban themselves but Dan and Jesse could not log in, even on RC. I am saying I don't think we should take the risk that such a situation could arise again.

The guy who did it thought it was a joke though and didn't know we would not be able to login. It wasn't really a big problem though, I was unbanned within a few hours, actually 5 minutes after I noticed. Anyway, we global banned him .

[SolidSnake989]

Originally Posted by Dan

The guy who did it thought it was a joke though and didn't know we would not be able to login. It wasn't really a big problem though, I was unbanned within a few hours, actually 5 minutes after I noticed. Anyway, we global banned him .

I so called he was going to do that.

Originally Posted by Deas_Voice

ahh don't say that

you dont realy got ant fact about what's needed and what's not?

add don't say that

you dont realy got ant fact about what's needed and what's not?

[Deas_Voice]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake989

add don't say that

you dont realy got ant fact about what's needed and what's not?

...?

[SolidSnake989]

Originally Posted by Deas_Voice

...?

Wow, what's the matter? Can't understand your own words?

[Ravenblade1979]

lol now thats funny.

[SolidSnake989]

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

lol now thats funny.

Your ability to think your important is funny.

[pooper200000]

Originally Posted by Deas_Voice

and about that ML banned those people'
we could have use of an Admin GP with ban rights and the other GPs could have the edit comments right and list hackers in a comment named something like hackers or glishers, ect in the comment it could stake the accounts/ip/pcid?
-thats my idea

I have an idea! You could use the support center. http://support.graalonline.com/
Then when you have problems, you log in on the support center, you make a ticket, and Dan can check the logs because he checks the ticket.
If you have a GP admin then you are going to have people who have RC just for the reason of editting comments.

Besides, can't you just forum PM Raven the account name? He can check the logs to see if they were hacking. If you tell a staff member, and the staff member sees it, they can also tell Raven. Then Raven can ban them. So we already have a system similiar to what you suggested Deas. It just isn't clear cut because there is no GP admin. There is just one GP. If we have reports of hackers we just tell Raven and he can deal with it from there.

[xAzerothx]

Zone doesn't need anymore GPs. I like how Frazzle is "all that" though.

[jkool666]

Raven is online a lot, but another person with rights wouldn't be bad. 3 nominations I have...

1. Me
I don't really see why I don't have GP rights. I have pretty much proved I'm not going to abuse anything given to me, and it would really just be a procaution incase things go wrong and someone isn't there to fix it. I don't need a title of "Zone Police," but the rights being there just incase wouldn't hurt.

2/3. I could see Pooper or Desear doing a fine job. But I know how Stefan is with giving out RC to people.

Originally Posted by Robin

And even if you're banned on player, you're able to login with RC if you're staff.

I wasn't able to... *Is Jesse from your quote*
Or did you mean Global staff?

[Deas_Voice]

Originally Posted by pooper200000

I have an idea! You could use the support center. http://support.graalonline.com/
Then when you have problems, you log in on the support center, you make a ticket, and Dan can check the logs because he checks the ticket.
If you have a GP admin then you are going to have people who have RC just for the reason of editting comments.

Besides, can't you just forum PM Raven the account name? He can check the logs to see if they were hacking. If you tell a staff member, and the staff member sees it, they can also tell Raven. Then Raven can ban them. So we already have a system similiar to what you suggested Deas. It just isn't clear cut because there is no GP admin. There is just one GP. If we have reports of hackers we just tell Raven and he can deal with it from there.

yeah thats a smart 1
but i still like my idea
but i rather msn him/ingame pm

but i still think we need more then raven..
like 2 or 1 more?

[Devis]

about mightylord it whas dans friend... he hired him and than he ban him....

a Gp latly there are no more hackers i have seen, if a et have the same richts as gp whay to hire gp ?

[xAzerothx]

GPs can ban people while ETs can only lock them.

[Deas_Voice]

Originally Posted by Devis

about mightylord it whas dans friend... he hired him and than he ban him....

a Gp latly there are no more hackers i have seen, if a et have the same richts as gp whay to hire gp ?

becuase GP's can ban

[Devis]

ooohw

than if it is a problem whay not lock them an tell raven or make a topik for who has to be banned

[xAzerothx]

Because that's just common sense.

[Devis]

aha ok

[Ravenblade1979]

Anyways I do agree with what Jesse said.

I would vote jesse as he already has debug himself and is on usually when i'm not.

[SolidSnake989]

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

I would vote jesse as he already has debug himself and is on usually when i'm not.

He should of gotten it when he was hired as ETA.

[xAzerothx]

Someone would cry over too much power.

[SolidSnake989]

Originally Posted by xAzerothx

Someone would cry over too much power.

They would of when KiDS had that power. They never did