Simple solution, stop being lazy.

[Noobie8205]

This is about the first time I've actually taken the time to read through the forums even though I've been playing Kingdoms for years... and all I keep seeing is people complaining about how there should be new stuff for higher levels and "blah blah we need new spellls!" when really none of that is needed.. How hard is it to create a new dungeon? add new higher level monsters? Zodiac and any other server have seemed to figure it out why can't kingdoms dev? Seriously look at the haunted house levels, they probally took a whole 20 minutes if that to actually make... ffs how hard would it to be to create something else similar with a tad bit more detail and throw some high level monsters in? Maybe even get crazy and add a "boss" at the end of the dungeon and maybe this time make it worthy of the name "lord"? and when I say that I mean let's not make it able to be biled at level 40 ffs.. I don't see how kingdoms dev plans on keeping people entertained for much longer.. these petty events and grinding lords will only last so long... seriously adding a few new dungeons wouldn't take more than maybe a weeks worth of work, why not get on it and add some new features to the game already? That or atleast drop the xp required to level so it doesn't 50 hours of straight grinding lords to advance... Yes I know people are going to complain about how the game isn't designed for high level action but you gotta start some where and at least this would give people something to do rather than idle.

[warmaster70229]

And before the GK dev team can complain about how few their numbers are, just remember, scripters, level makers, and the likes are WILLING to help, but your not WILLING to let them (Myself included).

Your bringing GKs death upon it, but if you can't fix it yourselves, let people who CAN do it.

[Noobie8205]

I agree, it's sad PLAYER ran servers are booming! Look at Zodiac it's accomplished wonders, now look at GK ran by admin appointed staff and they've accomplished almost nothing in the past 2 years I've been gone playing WoW. Whooo they made use out of that other island on the main map! ffs stop playing around with the trials and get to work on stuff that actually matters to your PAYING customers!

[Revontulet]

Honestly, from what I've read in the forums I must concur.

[Sky]

This has been suggested numerous times. ;x

I guess they just see it's fine the way it is, and the players opinion doesn't matter. If thats not the thing then I dunno.

[Ziro_of_the_Turks]

They should release that flying-feature for GK...
That would help a little.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Ziro_of_the_Turks

They should release that flying-feature for GK...
That would help a little.

Until people get bored of it.

Like someone said, there are people willing to help out on GK.

Hell -- I'd even be willing to help. There are plenty of scripters who are willing to help on GK (aswell as other developers), and there is no excuse for what is happening (nothng).

[Noobie8205]

I've already tried to help.. I had Dustari's Castle all re-done when I was king until Sam and Ravenblade teamed up and banned me for a 2 hour period while the Dustari/CP war was going on and forced me out of power.. oh well, I tried. They're afraid of anyone with a little attitude and that's not willing to pucker up and kiss #$@..

[Ravenblade1979]

Teamed up? I think you did something illegal to have been banned for that two hours.

Also I agree with this. I need to talk to bjorn about taking over the battle island project again. I am sick of not seeing new dungeons. I actually have and idea for 5 dungeons for battle island. And i am sure i can get some LAT, GFX and scripters helping me on the dungeons and monsters.


Anyone willing to help just forum pm me and I will let you know whats up

[Noobie8205]

No I got blamed for something Moto did if you remember correctly, and you guys just so happened to figure it all out right AFTER the war was over just in time to force me to hand over the shield. but anyways that's not the subject here.

[Ravenblade1979]

Originally Posted by Noobie8205

No I got blamed for something Moto did if you remember correctly, and you guys just so happened to figure it all out right AFTER the war was over just in time to force me to hand over the shield. but anyways that's not the subject here.

Then I apologize for that.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by warmaster70229

And before the GK dev team can complain about how few their numbers are, just remember, scripters, level makers, and the likes are WILLING to help, but your not WILLING to let them (Myself included).

Right, you get me a list of competent people and I'll get them jobs.

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

Also I agree with this. I need to talk to bjorn about taking over the battle island project again. I am sick of not seeing new dungeons. I actually have and idea for 5 dungeons for battle island. And i am sure i can get some LAT, GFX and scripters helping me on the dungeons and monsters.

This is ridiculous, why make some epic new thing - with months of work - when it's effect will be minimal at best? Instead of finding a idea YOU like and working on it, find a idea EVERYONE likes and work on it...

You'd be surprised how something SIMPLE could change the game for the better so dramatically.

Originally Posted by Noobie8205

I've already tried to help.. I had Dustari's Castle all re-done when I was king until Sam and Ravenblade teamed up and banned me for a 2 hour period while the Dustari/CP war was going on and forced me out of power.. oh well, I tried. They're afraid of anyone with a little attitude and that's not willing to pucker up and kiss #$@..

This is the sort of GermanlKr3w nonsense I've been harping about.


If you guys want to develop your ideas in a NURTURING environment, and discuss details so that the end result is more refined, contact me and I'll show you such a place.

[BigBear3]

Germankr3w needs a touch from another nation!

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by BigBear3

Germankr3w needs a touch from another nation!

Yea, maybe one where Graal's greater populace comes from... say North America?

[warmaster70229]

Originally Posted by cbkbud

Until people get bored of it.

Like someone said, there are people willing to help out on GK.

Hell -- I'd even be willing to help. There are plenty of scripters who are willing to help on GK (aswell as other developers), and there is no excuse for what is happening (nothng).

Psst, I wonder if he means me O.o;

Originally Posted by Stephen

Right, you get me a list of competent people and I'll get them jobs.

Two of them have already posted, Chris, and myself.

[Darklux]

The problem about the kingdoms?

The game is too unbalanced to have real wars, and the game never had anything to do with roleplay - its just an adventure.

Ive been on real roleplaying mmorpg's, and I can say that GK is none and even if people rp it rather seems to be like street theater, not like roleplay in the traditional sense.

[warmaster70229]

The unbalancing could be easily fixed, if someone was allowed to do it

[Ravenblade1979]

@Stephen - actually I really could care less about what I like on here. Other people are screaming for new content so I delivered. And I have to deliver more of it.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

@Stephen - actually I really could care less about what I like on here. Other people are screaming for new content so I delivered. And I have to deliver more of it.

Right, so instead of hopping on board the production wagon you just defend your position and basically say you'll do it all over again.

[dNeonb]

Originally Posted by warmaster70229

And before the GK dev team can complain about how few their numbers are, just remember, scripters, level makers, and the likes are WILLING to help, but your not WILLING to let them (Myself included).

Your bringing GKs death upon it, but if you can't fix it yourselves, let people who CAN do it.

Haha, that's new to me, really. If there was a suggestion made and someone asked if I could do it I asked why not help with it. Every time it ended up with a NO not a yes..

If there are soo many people who want to help, why are there so less things submitted? Some people wanted a development pack to do levels and stuff, ok we added one but was it used? NO.

Why are the applications forums that empy? Development applications can be posted all the time, but this does not happen, too (Only applications for jobs on GK directly are announced to apply for) .

Maybe think again about your statement. Or better, do what you said and don't just say it like lots of other people.

Originally Posted by Ziro_of_the_Turks

They should release that flying-feature for GK...
That would help a little.

How can something be released if it's not implemented in the latest client?

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

@Stephen - actually I really could care less about what I like on here. Other people are screaming for new content so I delivered. And I have to deliver more of it.

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/2928/caringmk4.png


I dunno, sounds as though the development team got as bored with working on GK as the players have playing it.

[warmaster70229]

Originally Posted by dNeonb

Haha, that's new to me, really. If there was a suggestion made and someone asked if I could do it I asked why not help with it. Every time it ended up with a NO not a yes..

If there are soo many people who want to help, why are there so less things submitted? Some people wanted a development pack to do levels and stuff, ok we added one but was it used? NO.

Why are the applications forums that empy? Development applications can be posted all the time, but this does not happen, too (Only applications for jobs on GK directly are announced to apply for) .

Maybe think again about your statement. Or better, do what you said and don't just say it like lots of other people.



How can something be released if it's not implemented in the latest client?

If there are APP forums, lead me to them, I love GK, and would withstand the seventh circle of hell three times over to see it be revived, and i would LOVE to help with that .

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by dNeonb

Haha, that's new to me, really. If there was a suggestion made and someone asked if I could do it I asked why not help with it. Every time it ended up with a NO not a yes..

If there are soo many people who want to help, why are there so less things submitted? Some people wanted a development pack to do levels and stuff, ok we added one but was it used? NO.

Why are the applications forums that empy? Development applications can be posted all the time, but this does not happen, too (Only applications for jobs on GK directly are announced to apply for) .

Maybe think again about your statement. Or better, do what you said and don't just say it like lots of other people.



How can something be released if it's not implemented in the latest client?

I'm not going to take the time to apply, but I've said multiple times to kingdom leaders, Raven, you, Stefan, etc that I am willing to help with scripts. Almost every time I get a 'ok great' or something like that.

Like I said, I'm not going to apply. I don't really want the job. However, if I am needed, I am willing to help as I have said before.

[dNeonb]

Originally Posted by cbkbud

I'm not going to take the time to apply, but I've said multiple times to kingdom leaders, Raven, you, Stefan, etc that I am willing to help with scripts. Almost every time I get a 'ok great' or something like that.

Like I said, I'm not going to apply. I don't really want the job. However, if I am needed, I am willing to help as I have said before.

If you don't want to work on debug don't except I tell you what you have to do. That'd be a little odd, but I can suggest you to have a look at the suggestion forums, maybe talk to Stefan or me before starting and then develop something and submit it? I mentioned this on forums quite a few times.

[Ziro_of_the_Turks]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/2928/caringmk4.png

Thank you!

"I could care less" is the most annoying statement people make because they usually say it in a such an arrogant manner or in a way to look down on the person they are saying it to, when in reality they're no better than a monkey with feces on his face laughing at a zoo guest. And somehow, usually, they sort of "win" the argument because they're too stupid to know they lost.

Originally Posted by dNeonb

How can something be released if it's not implemented in the latest client?

Apparently, by implementing it into the latest client.

[Miya84]

It would be good to see more monsters, with a range of dificulty. There is miles of dungeon underneath the kingdom islands, why not there? just now they are just a waste of space.

[Ravenblade1979]

@Stephen - nah i am just gonna continue on battle island.

[Darklux]

Originally Posted by warmaster70229

The unbalancing could be easily fixed, if someone was allowed to do it

The problem is that many people like the way it is unbalanced.
There are two parties:
-One party, oldbies, people feeling superior due to their items, they cant imagine GK balanced and without overpowered items.
-The other party, moderate players, newbies, few oldbies, who would like the game fixed up. Id say they make up 60% or more of all players.

But as long as the first group exists there wont be any balance updates most likely.

[Stephen]

Darklux, tell me in one post what you think "fairness" on GK means, and how you would get it. Tell me all of the methods you would use to maintain this "fairness" balance.

[Darklux]

Originally Posted by Stephen

Darklux, tell me in one post what you think "fairness" on GK means, and how you would get it. Tell me all of the methods you would use to maintain this "fairness" balance.

Actually, I could, ive made up quite a list already and sent it to various people.
If that was no joke, please forum pm me and ill show what iam talking about.

@Björn:

You present this like:
Iam inactive, as everyone who is willing to help can develop, so it is not my fault if nothing happens.

I see an error in the logic. Afaik you are Manager for Graal Kingdoms, a quite honorable position to rule a gold game, yet you don't seem to invest time and make up plans atm. There were various people applying for that job, if you are inactive and dont contribute to gk anyways, you should think about quitting the project, as hiring people to do independent work is not the job of a manager, rather building up a team, aiming at something and making up plans. Sorry but I don't see that on gk anymore.

If someone can see it, he should visit an ophthalmologist.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Darklux

Actually, I could, ive made up quite a list already and sent it to various people.
If that was no joke, please forum pm me and ill show what iam talking about.

No, I want you to do it here - so when people take the time to read what you have to say, they will realize how confused you are.

[Darklux]

Originally Posted by Stephen

No, I want you to do it here - so when people take the time to read what you have to say, they will realize how confused you are.

I don't like to be insulted by some freaks on these forums.

If someone want's to discuss it with me he can do that on p.m., I don't think I will follow this topic anymore.

[Ravenblade1979]

Actually Darklux has presented me with a few of his ideas that I would love to see implimented.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Stephen

No, I want you to do it here - so when people take the time to read what you have to say, they will realize how confused you are.

Since when has Stephen been ruler of the GK forums?

Seems to me like in a lot of his posts he is like "don't talk here, pm me so I can tell you what to do" etc.

Just wondering ...

[Darklux]

Originally Posted by cbkbud

Since when has Stephen been ruler of the GK forums?

Seems to me like in a lot of his posts he is like "don't talk here, pm me so I can tell you what to do" etc.

Just wondering ...

He is trying to fill the administrative gap of the game, though he obviously has no plans. Why would he have to keep them secret otherwise? Thats just and plainly hillarious.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Darklux

He is trying to fill the administrative gap of the game, though he obviously has no plans. Why would he have to keep them secret otherwise? Thats just and plainly hillarious.

Ah ok. Was wondering why he was commanding the forums without a green name.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by cbkbud

Ah ok. Was wondering why he was commanding the forums without a green name.

If you've go some good development ideas, I'd love to hear them. Because saying "no that's a bad idea" without suggesting a better one is far too easy.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Stephen

If you've go some good development ideas, I'd love to hear them. Because saying "no that's a bad idea" without suggesting a better one is far too easy.

I don't recall ever doing that?

All I've really said in GK forums lately is that I am wiling to help with scripting as much as possible.

[Noobie8205]

Well I see the topic of this post went all to hell, now I realize why I stay off the forums all people use them for is a place to argue >_> /sigh

[OasaTor_PK]

Simple solution, stop cooking with cheese!

(( if you have seen the Canadian Dairy Farmer Commericals you will get this, otherwise GTFO. ))