Food Regeneration

[Tigairius]

How about a new spell that gives the same effects that Restoration used to give when casted: Returns the person's food to 999
I think this is a necessary spell..

[cyan3]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

How about a new spell that gives the same effects that Restoration used to give when casted: Returns the person's food to 999
I think this is a necessary spell..

Nice idea, but i think the level cap should be around 18 so not everybody will be able to use the spell.

[cbk1994]

Go worship Bile and stop complaining!

I think maybe the spell should just regenerate some, not all the way to 999.

[kia345]

Maybe only restore 100 food and take a nice chunk of mana/grace. That way Bile doesn't become inferior.

[Googi]

Originally Posted by cbkbud

Go worship Bile and stop complaining!

The fact that almost everybody worships Bile is more of a problem than a solution.

[Sky]

Ya, this so needs to be done.

Better yet, why not just slow down the food some?

[BigBear3]

Originally Posted by Sky

Ya, this so needs to be done.

Better yet, why not just slow down the food some?

Agreed.

[smirt362]

Originally Posted by cbkbud

Go worship Bile and stop complaining!

I think maybe the spell should just regenerate some, not all the way to 999.

Everyone should not have to worship Bile, if somethings broken in the game it should be FIXED. Where's the variety if everyone worships the same god?

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by smirt362

Everyone should not have to worship Bile, if somethings broken in the game it should be FIXED. Where's the variety if everyone worships the same god?

These forums were not gifted with the ability to comprehend sarcasm :/

[Darklux]

The speed of loss it not broken, people are just not willing to take heavy monster parts with them to eat them when they need more food, so I can see no problem.

Its not hard to collect alot of food in the dungeons, and beside of that, whats wrong with alot people worshipping bile? Its only good for people who don't and makes their blessings even rarer.

[OasaTor_PK]

I have to wear my Sus ammy when casting, otherwise my food gets completely destroyed in about 30 seconds from mana/health/grace regeneration.

[Ravenblade1979]

Before I was praying to bile I would hunt for the food i needed and eat.

[DustyPorViva]

Yup, because macro-managing food above everything else is so fun.

[Felix_Xenophobe]

Originally Posted by cyan3

Nice idea, but i think the level cap should be around 18 so not everybody will be able to use the spell.

No.

New players complain they run out of food and die. They usually stop playing and that is one less gold subscription paid.

[kia345]

/cast create food

Problem solved.

[Tigairius]

Originally Posted by kia345

/cast create food

Problem solved.

Except those with low wisdom levels can only create food +5 or food+20 and what good does that do? Not very much... Problem not solved.

[BigBear3]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Yup, because macro-managing food above everything else is so fun.

Off-Topic, but your signature is disturbing.

[kia345]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

Except those with low wisdom levels can only create food +5 or food+20 and what good does that do? Not very much... Problem not solved.

But wouldn't they need high wisdom to use your Restoration idea?

[Ravenblade1979]

You all just want stuff made easier. I think the fact that unless you pray to bile you need food gives a bit of hardness to the game. Means you always have to be doing something other then sitting in trade all day.

[kia345]

I don't normally starve half an hour after I eat 12 pieces of meat larger than my head that I slew hermit crabs for.

The food depletion rate should be changed, the reason for multiple gods is so there's not only one choice, and a spell to restore food defeats the purpose of using Bile.

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

You all just want stuff made easier. I think the fact that unless you pray to bile you need food gives a bit of hardness to the game. Means you always have to be doing something other then sitting in trade all day.

There's a difference in difficulty and tedious, annoying, frustrating elements. Don't get them mixed up please.
There's nothing hard about managing your hunger, it's just downright annoying.

[Felix_Xenophobe]

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

You all just want stuff made easier. I think the fact that unless you pray to bile you need food gives a bit of hardness to the game. Means you always have to be doing something other then sitting in trade all day.

'epic post is epic

[Ziro_of_the_Turks]

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

You all just want stuff made easier. I think the fact that unless you pray to bile you need food gives a bit of hardness to the game. Means you always have to be doing something other then sitting in trade all day.

I don't think this is such a case.
Most people are wanting a better solution to food.
I pray to Ogma. At level 29 wisdom, the create food payoff still sucks.
I get a regeneration bonus from RoS and RoW which speeds up my food consumption. It's ridiculous enough as it is- and to think it'll only get faster when I get a 2nd RoW, and maybe other regen items?
Even if I didn't need demon stone, what if I wanted to use another good amulet? Do I have to be limited to either using the cheap sucky amulet of sustenence, or selling my soul+life savings+dignity+anything else i can offer for a ridiculously rare/expensive Amulet of Ghost Pirate (i can't think of any other good, or at least decent, item that'll save my foodbar)? Those are the only two solution I see.

The only time I stay fed is when I'm killing monsters. Even then it's risky; I might end up eating a collection of hearts when I turn away from the screen for a few minutes.

Edit: Let's not forget: Graal is traditionally about being able to walk around doing random stuff; basically whatever you want (within the game's limits). Now we get a disadvantage if we're not constantly hunting for food. I don't think Graal Kingdoms was supposed to be a game focused on food. If so, maybe they need to put less emphasis on releasing new weapons/shields/kingdom-stuff,etc, and focus more on the baking/farming/food aspect of the game. And also change the name to "Graal Foods" or some crap like that.

Originally Posted by kia345

But wouldn't they need high wisdom to use your Restoration idea?

The food-regen spell idea should require high-level wisdom so it won't end up like the old days when everyone was getting fed by "restoration". This way there will be less people who can cast it, more likely than not, they'll use it on other people, but it won't be so easy for them to keep the whole server fed 24/7. That's why the level-requirement is key.

But, as you were implying, that doesn't solve the problem for low-levels. Maybe we just need a whole 2nd solution for that. Maybe an automated-MMT system where only low-levels or newbies can use it.

Or you can just forget everything I said and realize this: Low-levels can focus on saving up to get an amulet of sustenance. When they're high-leveled enough in wisdom, they should be able to use a food-regen spell (the one we're proposing). If they don't like to level up wisdom, they should have a friend or two who can restore their food.

So in conclusion, I think the solution to our food problem is a food-restore spell that requires a high wisdom level. The effects will trickle down from the power players to the weaker ones.

[Ravenblade1979]

Then how about we set MMT on automatic so you don't need MMT guild ppl on all the time to buy food?

[Felix_Xenophobe]

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

Then how about we set MMT on automatic so you don't need MMT guild ppl on all the time to buy food?

I always thought the MMT was about RP. When the RP part failed they tried to force the players to go there by upping the food depletion. Obviously that failed as well.

Automating the MMT would ruin its purpose.

How about we just bring back the old food depletion ratio and we're fine.