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Old 12-17-2007, 01:33 AM
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Dagger and sword (WIP)
These graphics are WIP, Tell me how you like them so far.
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Old 12-17-2007, 05:23 AM
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Honestly, I don't see a dagger or a sword.
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Old 12-17-2007, 05:29 AM
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I can see the dagger, but it's more of a meat cleaver - perspective is great, same with lighting.

His sword blows, which makes his great dagger suspicious. The dagger has a great perspective where his sword doesn't - his dagger has beautiful coloring and lighting where his sword doesn't. Different "tone" use as well.
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Old 12-17-2007, 05:36 AM
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I can see the dagger, but it's more of a meat cleaver - perspective is great, same with lighting.

His sword blows, which makes his great dagger suspicious. The dagger has a great perspective where his sword doesn't - his dagger has beautiful coloring and lighting where his sword doesn't. Different "tone" use as well.
It just looks like he ran it through Photoshop or something, but then again his style is kind of awkward.
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Old 12-17-2007, 05:38 AM
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I like the style all though it is kind of funny. If this was going with graal it would need custom bodies.

They need handles as well lol
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Old 12-17-2007, 05:56 AM
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It just looks like he ran it through Photoshop or something, but then again his style is kind of awkward.
Not really, Photoshop can't magically make dynamic perspective - like the perspective in his dagger. It also won't tell your brain which lighting would look best, allowing you to make the best "lighting decision".
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Not really, Photoshop can't magically make dynamic perspective - like the perspective in his dagger. It also won't tell your brain which lighting would look best, allowing you to make the best "lighting decision".
You're right. It just looks weird to me. ;/
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Old 12-17-2007, 07:19 AM
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I think those weapons look awesome.

Reminds me of Cloud's swords in the Final Fantasy 7: Advent Children

But I don't like it for Graal classic graphic-style.

It would have to be on a custom-looking server (ie GK) that fits well with the style.
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Old 12-17-2007, 10:45 PM
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I can see the dagger, but it's more of a meat cleaver - perspective is great, same with lighting.

His sword blows, which makes his great dagger suspicious. The dagger has a great perspective where his sword doesn't - his dagger has beautiful coloring and lighting where his sword doesn't. Different "tone" use as well.
Well... believe it or not the sword has the same blade or "sliver" kind of color to the dagger as well just not as thick, or in a sense not as sharpened. Anyways Its a WIP, and I will post an update in an hour or so... By the way, I tryed a different style of lighting. Not all of your graphics have to have the same exact lighting you know? Lets Say this is going to be like clouds sword and be over his shoulder...
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Hmm, I actually see no perspective in either... both just look like swords on their flat side. The 'dagger' however, is positioned in a much more interesting angle.
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Old 12-17-2007, 11:33 PM
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Well... believe it or not the sword has the same blade or "sliver" kind of color to the dagger as well just not as thick, or in a sense not as sharpened. Anyways Its a WIP, and I will post an update in an hour or so... By the way, I tryed a different style of lighting. Not all of your graphics have to have the same exact lighting you know? Lets Say this is going to be like clouds sword and be over his shoulder...
You're either incompetent or bull ****ting - either way, you look stupid. let me explain why - in one you have very dynamic perspective and lighting... both of which require a fair amount of skill to render correctly, which you have.

In the second one you show no skill, even in those things which people of skill typically do naturally (coloring, shading - perspective takes more effort). So, yea... explaint.
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Old 12-19-2007, 02:33 AM
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You're either incompetent or bull ****ting - either way, you look stupid. let me explain why - in one you have very dynamic perspective and lighting... both of which require a fair amount of skill to render correctly, which you have.

In the second one you show no skill, even in those things which people of skill typically do naturally (coloring, shading - perspective takes more effort). So, yea... explaint.
Please explain and define perspective for me. With all due respect, not trying to be wise or anything.
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Old 12-19-2007, 04:35 AM
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Please explain and define perspective for me. With all due respect, not trying to be wise or anything.
Google, "Define: Perspective" second entry:
the appearance of things relative to one another as determined by their distance from the viewer

Why can't you do that and save yourself looking stupid?
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Google, "Define: Perspective" second entry:
the appearance of things relative to one another as determined by their distance from the viewer

Why can't you do that and save yourself looking stupid?
Well, I was curious to see what you thought it meant, is that really that bad?
I mean there are different definitions.
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Well, I was curious to see what you thought it meant, is that really that bad?
I mean there are different definitions.
A definition is singular - how I define it on the other hand, but you didn't specify that.

Mine coincides with the one which I provided, I wasn't just being a smart ass.
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there too big for graal, (pronounced "Grail") :P
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there too big for graal, (pronounced "Grail") :P
It's pronounced Grawl, and the first is fine as a icon. And also, No.
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It's pronounced Grawl
It's pronounced 'grail'.

Also, I agree that the dagger is very nice, where as your sword is lacking a lot ..
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Fantastic, if we were speaking of an English term - which we're not. Stefan has said several times that it's "Grawl".
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i like it but it dont looks like a sword soz
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I just pronounce it Graal..I cant really explain how it sounds like, but I just say that, lol.
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Kinda ironic due to the fact it is spelt Graal and in the American language the second a should make the first a long or in other words Grail.

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I just pronounce it Graal..I cant really explain how it sounds like, but I just say that, lol.
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Stefan should make a midi on how to say it, I would sleep better at night if this happened.(Jk XD)
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Actually, I laughed at the thought of Stefan composing a midi to aid some kind of word pronunciation debate. I also laughed because I can't believe people give a f*** enough to bring this into two threads, but this one has been derailed enough.
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