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Old 08-29-2007, 03:05 AM
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Who Made this?

I have this saved to my computer and i want to find out who made it? I searched the forums and couldn't find the post i got it from. Anyway its a couple of years old
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And how dare you get it wrong considering Mythic Legends did not own that body. Quit trying to be a smart-ass. My best guess considering the style is that Tony Rivers made it. As it resembles many of his bodies.
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Err..I think Jer maybe?
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Yeah actually they did...

Atleast some server that started with an M...
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Old 08-29-2007, 05:03 AM
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And how dare you get it wrong considering Mythic Legends did not own that body. Quit trying to be a smart-ass. My best guess considering the style is that Tony Rivers made it. As it resembles many of his bodies.
You are the second person who said that. Im trying to get rights to use it.
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Who knows where Tony Rivers is now, hopefully not down on his luck. <3 Tony. So you might as well use it. There's probably not another who could give rights to you for it. Tony probably isn't using it and he's a generous guy :P

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No they didn't. Jer made Mythic Legends bodies and it just looks similar. TONY-****ing-RIVERS made that body. Mythic Legends bodies were made differently. And besides the bodies Jer made for Mythic Legends were BASED OFF of bodies TONY RIVERS made in the first place for Metropolis a while ago.

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Old 08-29-2007, 06:17 AM
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Shut up Stan.


Tony Rivers originally made that body for Icarus (who later changed bodies I believe), and gave Jer permission to use any edit of it if he wanted too. Jer ONLY had that single front view when he began working on the bodies.

Over a year ago, Sage stole our character sprites from temp folder on RC (he was a newb back then, all forgiven now anyways) and claimed it as his own. From there it gets a bit blurry.. Sage uploaded it on Eden, and the Crass began to make a ****load of sprites for it.

Sometime later, Sage and Lance edited the body and made sprites for it - this is the version we use on Mythic Legends at the moment.

But yes, Mythic Legends is the original owner of all body sprites made after that single front view posted in the first post - if anyone else made edits to it (except Tony, duh), they are not allowed to use it.

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well, if the person who owns it dosn't respond to this thread then, clame it ;D

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OOOOOH right, Tony Rivers. I think Jer told me about that or something.
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No they didn't. Jer made Mythic Legends bodies and it just looks similar. TONY-****ing-RIVERS made that body. Mythic Legends bodies were made differently. And besides the bodies Jer made for Mythic Legends were BASED OFF of bodies TONY RIVERS made in the first place for Metropolis a while ago.

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it looks the same.

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Shut up Stan.


Tony Rivers originally made that body for Icarus (who later changed bodies I believe), and gave Jer permission to use any edit of it if he wanted too. Jer ONLY had that single front view when he began working on the bodies.

Over a year ago, Sage stole our character sprites from temp folder on RC (he was a newb back then, all forgiven now anyways) and claimed it as his own. From there it gets a bit blurry.. Sage uploaded it on Eden, and the Crass began to make a ****load of sprites for it.

Sometime later, Sage and Lance edited the body and made sprites for it - this is the version we use on Mythic Legends at the moment.

But yes, Mythic Legends is the original owner of all body sprites made after that single front view posted in the first post - if anyone else made edits to it (except Tony, duh), they are not allowed to use it.

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Ok, all that bashing towards Ziro was unnecessary on my part despite what he says, I have a full chronological order of the images of Metropolis. And I've also had a chat with Jer.

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...55&postcount=4

^ This was the original front view of the bodies that Tony Rivers gave to Jer that Jer made edits off of. Earlier in '06 I believe Sage and Lance stole the edits Jer made off of these and made sprites for Theed. So yes Ziro is correct on this part. Jer has also told me himself this is indeed the original view Tony Rivers made for Metropolis and not Icarus Zir.

Inbetween, the original's which did indeed look like the bodies Mythic Legends ended up using, Tony made an edit of the originals posted above and created these:

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...89&postcount=1

^ Those are an of the originals and they are the same edit that Mike! (PrinceOfKenshin) has posted here.

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...8&postcount=37
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=971851&postcount=20'

Couple more pics of the body with slight alterations to them from Tony but still resembling the original. This is all from 2004.

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...19&postcount=1

Here you will see a revert back to the original bodies without the odd face alterations and an early version of tiles resembling Relic's tileset which Tony Rivers made.

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...53&postcount=6

The same bodies again for Metropolis with several facial animations and a dog.

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...1&postcount=19

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...9&postcount=52

^ Another slight body comparison for the forums where Tony ended up sticking with the bodies on the left side instead of the right. Which in my opinion looked better.

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...59&postcount=1

These final bodies were not for Metropolis but were for the project Graal: Rebirth which Tony Rivers started AFTER Metropolis failed. Graal: Rebirth eventually then turned into Relic. Which Novo was the scripter, blah blah blah...

Oi, Ziro I don't have a problem with you and you know that. But that "Shut up." was in no way necessary. Considering the fact we ARE talking about two different Time Era's. The last two years when Sage stole the bodies, put them on Eden and Crass made a crapload of sprites. Then when he and Lance used them on Theed and made some more sprites. And the Era of Metropolis and such which was 2004.

I'm talking way in the past. You're talking immediate future. No reason to argue is there? Let's say we stop the argument at that? I don't really want to argue with you pal. :O

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it looks the same.

Hush, stan. hush.
And, instead of me cursing at you and getting angry, I'll have you see above and show you they are in fact NOT the same bodies. So try to learn something.
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Tony Rivers has been arrested several times as far as I know (have heard). But he's a cool guy tho. :P
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Old 08-30-2007, 12:43 AM
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So who do i talk to Tony rivers which from what i heard is in jail or what?
You need to talk to Jer which of everyone he is probably the only player still around who has the rights to use that body considering that's the edit he made I believe which it doesn't even matter, because alot of the bodies Tony did that are known around Graal Jer has the rights too.
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He originally made the bodies for Metropolis but he has floated the graphics around a lot after Metropolis died. They have showed up on alot of servers, a similar style on is on Relic.
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Tony drew MOST of Relic.
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You need to talk to Jer which of everyone he is probably the only player still around who has the rights to use that body considering that's the edit he made I believe which it doesn't even matter, because alot of the bodies Tony did that are known around Graal Jer has the rights too.
Or me, since they are property of both me and Jer - something we agreed on a good while ago.

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Or me, since they are property of both me and Jer - something we agreed on a good while ago.

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Tony drew MOST of Relic.
Obviously, seeing as I watched him make all of it. It's still a similar style to the other body. Anyways the body in the original post is from Metropolis, he used lighter shading with the newer ones.

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Obviously, seeing as I watched him make all of it. It's still a similar style to the other body. Anyways the body in the original post is from Metropolis, he used lighter shading with the newer ones.

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I might as well add this...

NO!

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NO!

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I might as well add this...

NO!

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Actually, before Mythic started using them Jer told me I was allowed to use the unfinished version (not the Mythic version, relax).
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Unless you're talking about a different Jer that doesn't really play anymore, only develops...
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