The Treaty of Zormite Dominance of the North Western Island

[Zurkiba]

(Post is In Character as told by Elder Zurkiba Zaeri of the Zormite Empire)

On thiz day, July 31zt, the Zormite Izland waz liberated for the Emperor. The document shown iz a valid treaty of the Zormite Empire. It iz cozigned by the royal Bellazerians and the other nationz of the world.

The treaty tellz the world that the Zormitez are now the reziding government of the north wezt izland of the archipelago.

May there be peace amongzt the gloriouz Zormitez and the land walkerz.

[Debaglio]

lol........

Where is CP, and a legitamite Forest sig? None.

Joke. You couldnt kill anyone if you tried.

Bellasarians are Bel'la Olplyn wannabies... or wannabiez as you speak.

[Zurkiba]

Originally Posted by Debaglio

lol........

Where is CP, and a legitamite Forest sig? None.

Joke. You couldnt kill anyone if you tried.

Bellasarians are Bel'la Olplyn wannabies... or wannabiez as you speak.

The Pirates didn't sign for OOC reasons,
That is a legitamite Forest sig, the signatures present are from the summit which you did not attend

And I've already killed scores of Drow.

Oh, the Bellaserians are Bel'la Olplyn wannabies? Bellasera was announced officially on 08-02-2003, 11:40 AM, when was Bel'la Olplyn announced? You understand that Bellasera was formed two years before you even thought of playing Graal.
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=46722

[GryffonDurime]

Originally Posted by Zurkiba

The Pirates didn't sign for OOC reasons,
That is a legitamite Forest sig, the signatures present are from the summit which you did not attend

And I've already killed scores of Drow.

Oh, the Bellaserians are Bel'la Olplyn wannabies? Bellasera was announced officially on 08-02-2003, 11:40 AM, when was Bel'la Olplyn announced? You understand that Bellasera was formed two years before you even thought of playing Graal.
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=46722

Actually, Bellasera's a good 6 months older than that. I drafted the first version of it shortly after I became Kingdoms Admin, you know, back when Jeff had just failed?

[Benm00t]

Hooray for Zormite!

[Debaglio]

So what does this mean? Elaborate.

[Zurkiba]

Originally Posted by Debaglio

So what does this mean? Elaborate.

It means that the other nations of the world (excluding the barbaric states to the south who dont care anyway) reconize the Zormite Empire as the government on the island again. Basicly it's the document which is an ultimatum to the Drows of the island to surrender to us and they wont be harmed.

[Debaglio]

What would happen if Kefkin handed the kingdom off to a non Drow? Say a Bellasarian was to become the leader, and Bel'la Olplyn was changed to Bellasaria?

[GryffonDurime]

Originally Posted by Debaglio

What would happen if Kefkin handed the kingdom off to a non Drow?

Depends on whether or not he only did it to create a puppet government.

[Debaglio]

Originally Posted by GryffonDurime

Depends on whether or not he only did it to create a puppet government.

Sounds like a Hyralt move.......how and what would determine if this was a puppet government?

[Zurkiba]

Originally Posted by Debaglio

What would happen if Kefkin handed the kingdom off to a non Drow?

If by non-Drow you mean Zormite, and by Zormite you mean the council of elders (until the Emperor can arrive) then the war would end and a new age of enlightenment would arise as the barbarians were casted from the borders of the Holy Zormite Empire.

[Debaglio]

Originally Posted by Zurkiba

If by non-Drow you mean Zormite, and by Zormite you mean the council of elders (until the Emperor can arrive) then the war would end and a new age of enlightenment would arise as the barbarians were casted from the borders of the Holy Zormite Empire.

AHhh so you are trying to blacklist some people from an island that you were blacklisted.

I think that anyone who has the ZSOH, is considered a Zormite Elder, and I would think that they could return to the land before your Emperor.

Ill see what I can do.

[GryffonDurime]

Originally Posted by Debaglio

Sounds like a Hyralt move.......how and what would determine if this was a puppet government?

A "Hyralt" move. You keep accusing me of ripping off SOMETHING with the Hyralts, but I every time I push for what, you fail to produce any evidence.

Determining a puppet government would probably boil down to whether or not the new ruler would be a seat-warmer taking his orders from the drow.

[GryffonDurime]

Originally Posted by Debaglio

AHhh so you are trying to blacklist some people from an island that you were blacklisted.

I think that anyone who has the ZSOH, is considered a Zormite Elder, and I would think that they could return to the land before your Emperor.

Ill see what I can do.

A ZSOH! Surely, possesing an item is proof that you are loyal, well-versed in canon, and a good RPer! Let me just go put 200 or so in my paypal account, and by your definition I'm automatically an Elder of Zormite! By this logic, I wonder how much 1337 100t you need for him to consider you an admin!

[Zurkiba]

Originally Posted by Debaglio

AHhh so you are trying to blacklist some people from an island that you were blacklisted.

I think that anyone who has the ZSOH, is considered a Zormite Elder, and I would think that they could return to the land before your Emperor.

Ill see what I can do.

No where did I say blacklist, and the Elder Zurkiba Zaeri was not blacklisted.

And no - the Zormites have never operated in a fashion where you gain a rank if you hold an item. The Elders are well established and I can assure you that you are not one of them. The Emperor is currently off the coast enjoying the epic battle of the Kraken of the North vs your land monster that yall decided to dump in the sea.

[Debaglio]

200 bucks... hmm good luck. Dont think you could get one for that.

I would like to know more about this Bellasaria. Verse me Gryff.. or give me a link to some more info.... not some vote..... I want to read about it.

I like how it sounds, and if we can get some kingdom activity out of it I think it will be good.

[Zurkiba]

Originally Posted by Debaglio

200 bucks... hmm good luck. Dont think you could get one for that.

I would like to know more about this Bellasaria. Verse me Gryff.. or give me a link to some more info.... not some vote..... I want to read about it.

I like how it sounds, and if we can get some kingdom activity out of it I think it will be good.

The link I provided you offers you the details about the kingdoms written by Gryffon. I suppose we expected you to actually read a post (even though you have the uncanny ability to always hardly read posts).

The Bellaserians will make an appearance as the naval forces of Zormite, seeing how we have no need for boats.

[Debaglio]

Bel'la Olplyn name change to Bel'lasaria

Royal House Bel'la
(ruling kingship/queenship/prince/princess

Zormite Empire
(naval forces/house army)

Dark Forest
(dark races/theives/outcasts)

Bel'lasaria
(normal citizenship)

I will assume that you (Zurkiba) are going to lead my Navy, and have an army ready. Please post your ranks so that I can get it all ready. I will overlook your previous blacklisting, and give you another chance to re=prove yourself.

I will assume that you (Gryff) are going to lead my citizens. Please post the ranks that will be used for the citizens, and their government officials.

This is starting to sound really good.

[Zurkiba]

Originally Posted by Debaglio

Bel'la Olplyn name change to Bel'lasaria

Royal House Bel'la
(ruling kingship/queenship/prince/princess

Zormite Empire
(naval forces/house army)

Dark Forest
(dark races/theives/outcasts)

Bel'lasaria
(normal citizenship)

I will assume that you (Zurkiba) are going to lead my Navy, and have an army ready. Please post your ranks so that I can get it all ready. I will overlook your previous blacklisting, and give you another chance to re=prove yourself.

I will assume that you (Gryff) are going to lead my citizens. Please post the ranks that will be used for the citizens, and their government officials.

This is starting to sound really good.

No

[Debaglio]

Originally Posted by Zurkiba

No

Thats what I was thinkin when I was going to allow you to lead my Navy.

Hmmm... so you dont want the position?

[VulcanP2P]

Originally Posted by Debaglio

Thats what I was thinkin when I was going to allow you to lead my Navy.

Hmmm... so you dont want the position?

When did it become your kingdom?

[GryffonDurime]

Originally Posted by Debaglio

Bel'la Olplyn name change to Bel'lasaria

Royal House Bel'la
(ruling kingship/queenship/prince/princess

Zormite Empire
(naval forces/house army)

Dark Forest
(dark races/theives/outcasts)

Bel'lasaria
(normal citizenship)

I will assume that you (Zurkiba) are going to lead my Navy, and have an army ready. Please post your ranks so that I can get it all ready. I will overlook your previous blacklisting, and give you another chance to re=prove yourself.

I will assume that you (Gryff) are going to lead my citizens. Please post the ranks that will be used for the citizens, and their government officials.

This is starting to sound really good.

You have trouble grasping. Bellasera is ALREADY a kingdom, albeit across the oceanic divide. A collaboration for peace between the Dustarian hopeful and the Pirate citizenry and Shipwrights after the meteor, Bellaseria is an independant nation, recognized as soverign by it's neighboring kingdoms, Malenth and the Holy Zormite Empire. While OOC they are on seperate servers, IC the New Lands (2k2) and Old Lands (2k1) HAVE ALWAYS BEEN MERELY CONTINENTS ON OPPOSITE SIDES OF THE POND.

[Debaglio]

Originally Posted by VulcanP2P

When did it become your kingdom?

It hasnt yet, but I have been thinking about assuming the responsibility.

[Lance]

Originally Posted by Debaglio

Bel'la Olplyn name change to Bel'lasaria

Royal House Bel'la
(ruling kingship/queenship/prince/princess

Zormite Empire
(naval forces/house army)

Dark Forest
(dark races/theives/outcasts)

Bel'lasaria
(normal citizenship)

I will assume that you (Zurkiba) are going to lead my Navy, and have an army ready. Please post your ranks so that I can get it all ready. I will overlook your previous blacklisting, and give you another chance to re=prove yourself.

I will assume that you (Gryff) are going to lead my citizens. Please post the ranks that will be used for the citizens, and their government officials.

This is starting to sound really good.

Please do not joke about stealing and debasing the product of countless hours of hard work and dedication by my staff. If you attempt to do this, you will find my wrath to be quite vehement.

[GryffonDurime]

Originally Posted by Debaglio

It hasnt yet, but I have been thinking about assuming the responsibility.

That's right, we forgot that you, God Etien, can take whatever you want. I don't even think your friendship is enough to convince Kefkin to give you BO.

[Debaglio]

Originally Posted by Lance

Please do not joke about stealing and debasing the product of countless hours of hard work and dedication by my staff. If you attempt to do this, you will find my wrath to be quite vehement.

What do you mean Lance? I am not joking, and I am not trying to debase anything. Do you not think that Kefkin, and I have not spent hours, upon hours working to build a kingdom? I only left the kingdom because I thought thats what people wanted?

Do you just want the name changed back to Zormite? If this is the case it can be done. Please do not overlook the fact that we checked with Bjorn, and Sam before we got rid of Zormite, and replaced it with Bel'la.

I have already met the wrath of staff, I will be coming off of a ban tomorrow. We only want to make the place fun. Please elaborate. What do you (staff) want?

[Damix2]

As staff of GK, I would like a cookie.

[Lance]

Originally Posted by Debaglio

What do you mean Lance? I am not joking, and I am not trying to debase anything. Do you not think that Kefkin, and I have not spent hours, upon hours working to build a kingdom? I only left the kingdom because I thought thats what people wanted?

Do you just want the name changed back to Zormite? If this is the case it can be done. Please do not overlook the fact that we checked with Bjorn, and Sam before we got rid of Zormite, and replaced it with Bel'la.

I have already met the wrath of staff, I will be coming off of a ban tomorrow. We only want to make the place fun. Please elaborate. What do you (staff) want?

I'm talking about Bellasera, a unique Graal2001 creation. Your debasement of the Zormite kingdom is an entirely separate matter (and one which I do not care to discuss at this time).

[Debaglio]

Originally Posted by Lance

I'm talking about Bellasera, a unique Graal2001 creation. Your debasement of the Zormite kingdom is an entirely separate matter (and one which I do not care to discuss at this time).

So your saying 2001 and 2002 are to remain seperate? Zurkiba seems to think they are the same, and should be intertwined.

[StrykerTFFD]

Lance never once said anything remotely close to that.

[Zurkiba]

Originally Posted by Debaglio

So your saying 2001 and 2002 are to remain seperate? Zurkiba seems to think they are the same, and should be intertwined.

No, he's saying that you have no sway over a kingdom which you do not own.

[Lance]

Originally Posted by Debaglio

So your saying 2001 and 2002 are to remain seperate? Zurkiba seems to think they are the same, and should be intertwined.

To make sense of it all, some storyline has to exist to connect Graal2001 and Graal Kingdoms. But Bellasera is a kingdom that exists only on the "other side," on Graal2001. It does not and will not exist on Graal Kingdoms, short of any sort of official envoys (e.g. Gryffon). An attempt to steal the idea and debase the product of our hard work for Graal2001 will cause inconceivable things to happen to you. I'm thinking life as a potion. Everyone loves potions.

[Debaglio]

Originally Posted by StrykerTFFD

Lance never once said anything remotely close to that.

He said no Bellasaria.

Bel'la Olplyn Ultrin!!!!!

I guess its there to stay. I tried.

[Googi]

Where's Alan in all of this? He should still has to explain why he didn't sign.

[Debaglio]

Originally Posted by Googi

Where's Alan in all of this? He should still has to explain why he didn't sign.

I think a better question is..... how did a forest rep sign when the only forest member present was Axen (Human)??????

Where was Lasaria? Draxx..... or even Stryker?

[GryffonDurime]

Originally Posted by Debaglio

I think a better question is..... how did a forest rep sign when the only forest member present was Axen (Human)??????

Where was Lasaria? Draxx..... or even Stryker?

Axen, and later the Highjudge came and signed, fully aware of all that had happened.

[Cheops]

About bridging the server gap between the old and new worlds? Isn't that somewhat problematic? I don't think you can equate leadership in the old world with a right to claim leadership in the new world. Say, a leader from the old world upgrading to gold and then coming in as a level 1 claiming a throne on GK. Not to mention, in order for a perfect fluidity between the two land aggregations everyone in the old world should have access to the new world (which, again, they wouldn't unless they upgrade). Is the server still active elsewhere? Unfortunately I'm not up to date on what's going on anywhere other than GK. Any enlightenment or links to threads or histories od the old world would be much appreciated and much needed not only by myself but any who plan to RP on GK given the attempts to consolidate storylines.

[Zurkiba]

Originally Posted by Debaglio

I think a better question is..... how did a forest rep sign when the only forest member present was Axen (Human)??????

Where was Lasaria? Draxx..... or even Stryker?

Stryker signed the treaty

Originally Posted by Cheops

About bridging the server gap between the old and new worlds? Isn't that somewhat problematic? I don't think you can equate leadership in the old world with a right to claim leadership in the new world. Say, a leader from the old world upgrading to gold and then coming in as a level 1 claiming a throne on GK. Not to mention, in order for a perfect fluidity between the two land aggregations everyone in the old world should have access to the new world (which, again, they wouldn't unless they upgrade). Is the server still active elsewhere? Unfortunately I'm not up to date on what's going on anywhere other than GK. Any enlightenment or links to threads or histories od the old world would be much appreciated and much needed not only by myself but any who plan to RP on GK given the attempts to consolidate storylines.

The kingdoms are completely different. The only constant is the Zormite Empire (in which the Zormite colony will be led by a Viceroy as the Emperor resides on 2k1)

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...chmentid=30068
That's a rough map of the world before the meteor hit. The northern kingdoms are the real kingdoms, the south were colonies. A series of events made most of the kingdoms move south and reestablish their governments. (By the way, the Northern landmass is 2k1, Southern is 2k2, and the Eastern areas are just background areas for various characters in 2k2, Astri, and an event.

[Debaglio]

VERY WELL PUT CHEOPS.

This is the reason why the Zormite was abandoned. No one cared enough to pass it on. Akira herself didnt even want anything to do with it anymore. The lack of info (canon) forces people to try and tie things together the best they can.

But wait.... It looks like this is a private party a bunch of studs has crashed, and now the olbies are mad because all their women are going home with us.

As far as the treaty... no forest leaders were present while Bel'la Olplyn was there.. making it totally invalid signature.

[Googi]

Originally Posted by Cheops

About bridging the server gap between the old and new worlds? Isn't that somewhat problematic? I don't think you can equate leadership in the old world with a right to claim leadership in the new world. Say, a leader from the old world upgrading to gold and then coming in as a level 1 claiming a throne on GK. Not to mention, in order for a perfect fluidity between the two land aggregations everyone in the old world should have access to the new world (which, again, they wouldn't unless they upgrade). Is the server still active elsewhere? Unfortunately I'm not up to date on what's going on anywhere other than GK. Any enlightenment or links to threads or histories od the old world would be much appreciated and much needed not only by myself but any who plan to RP on GK given the attempts to consolidate storylines.

We're not just coming onto 2K2 and claiming leadership. We're vanquishing the Drow from Zormite island. It's not like we came to a Zormite kingdom and just said "Hand over the throne" or anything like that.