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Old 01-28-2004, 01:32 AM
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ID Number for each player

Instead of banning ips for a players client, mabey each play can have an assigned number, here is somewhat of an explaination of how it works, feel free to amend it.

On the site, the player logs in. It will take him to his account information page, and he must enter his password and stuff, and email. A number is assigned to that player and all his accounts. (I don't know any other way to id the player so he gets a number )

When banning players, their id is banned on the server so they can't use another account to login.

Seems complicated to get a id to each player, but I don't know.
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Old 01-28-2004, 02:48 AM
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That would still not be as reliable as an IP ban... Also, I thought you couldn't have more than one account under an email address.

How 'bout we just lock anything coming in from them through what's known of their credit card info, and then ban all of their known accounts, along with their IP.

That still wouldn't help with trial accounts for people w/ dynamic IPs, though.... but I bet that only being able to go on trial would piss them off enough to just quit.
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Old 01-28-2004, 02:53 AM
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Locking out players is a challenge, no matter how you do it there are always ways around it.
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Old 01-28-2004, 03:16 AM
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It's better to think of an 'ID Number' as a CD-Key.
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Old 01-28-2004, 03:21 AM
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Re: ID Number for each player

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Instead of banning ips for a players client, mabey each play can have an assigned number, here is somewhat of an explaination of how it works, feel free to amend it.

On the site, the player logs in. It will take him to his account information page, and he must enter his password and stuff, and email. A number is assigned to that player and all his accounts. (I don't know any other way to id the player so he gets a number )

When banning players, their id is banned on the server so they can't use another account to login.

Seems complicated to get a id to each player, but I don't know.
I thought of that like 3 months ago, never posted about it. But I like idea, there could be like some number put into the registry (hidden of course) for teh ID
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Old 01-28-2004, 07:29 AM
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Exactly what I was thinking of Rick. Half-life uses em, as do other online software programs.
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It's better to think of an 'ID Number' as a CD-Key.
A majority of gamers don't like cd-keys for obvious reasons.
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A majority of gamers don't like cd-keys for obvious reasons.
Of course pirates don't like cd-keys
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Am I missing something with this idea? It just doesn't make sense. How can the same ID be assigned to multiple accounts by email if you can only use one email address for an account? An IP ban is used to try & keep a household banned (or an ISP/region) for a limited amount of time, so the only way the user could get on would be by proxy or to go to a friend's house.

I think I see what you mean. You sign up for an "ID" with your password and email, and you create accounts under that ID. But that is still fundamentally flawed, as you could just go create another email account somewhere. An IP ban would be more effective.
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Old 01-28-2004, 09:26 PM
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Thats why I asked if anyone else could AMEND my idea or come up with another solution.
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Old 01-28-2004, 10:43 PM
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Well... could send everybody CDs and start using CD keys!!
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Old 01-29-2004, 05:38 PM
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Once one is used it cannot be used by another person, ya?
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Stupid idea.
I do not see how this could work.
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Old 01-29-2004, 11:31 PM
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Stupid idea.
I do not see how this could work.
shhh... you're not supposed to tell anybody that it wouldn't work. you're supposed to discretely make fun of them.........
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Old 01-30-2004, 10:48 PM
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Stupid idea.
I do not see how this could work.
Ehh it maybe could work if the software did a hardware profile and sends it to Graal much like what XP does with windows to detect illegal use.
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Old 01-30-2004, 10:57 PM
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Am I missing something with this idea? It just doesn't make sense. How can the same ID be assigned to multiple accounts by email if you can only use one email address for an account? An IP ban is used to try & keep a household banned (or an ISP/region) for a limited amount of time, so the only way the user could get on would be by proxy or to go to a friend's house.

I think I see what you mean. You sign up for an "ID" with your password and email, and you create accounts under that ID. But that is still fundamentally flawed, as you could just go create another email account somewhere. An IP ban would be more effective.
IP ban is useless if you have 56k or something, b/c your ip changes everytime. Even if you have cable/dsl I doubt anyone pays extra for static ip.
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Old 01-30-2004, 11:33 PM
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Ehh it maybe could work if the software did a hardware profile and sends it to Graal much like what XP does with windows to detect illegal use.
No.
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Old 01-30-2004, 11:33 PM
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IP ban is useless if you have 56k or something, b/c your ip changes everytime. Even if you have cable/dsl I doubt anyone pays extra for static ip.
I do but it is for the addition of 2 more static IPs off one connection for a total of 3. I use a switch off one connection to connect 3 comps and all have their own IP.


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No.
*shrugs* It was an idea anyway
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Old 01-30-2004, 11:45 PM
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I do but it is for the addition of 2 more static IPs off one connection for a total of 3. I use a switch off one connection to connect 3 comps and all have their own IP.
Ok...most people
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