Equal in kingdom battles

Rax · #1 02-09-2003, 08:47 AM

I think when you're in a kingdom battle and on kingdom mode everyone should get like 200 hp and damage+like ummm 25 and same wc and ac so eevryone can be equal and stuff

Selzar · #2 02-09-2003, 10:52 AM

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Originally posted by Rax
I think when you're in a kingdom battle and on kingdom mode everyone should get like 200 hp and damage+like ummm 25 and same wc and ac so eevryone can be equal and stuff

Rax noone likes your suggestions because they are horrible and I present to you horrible! Quote!

Zurkiba · #3 02-09-2003, 03:55 PM

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Originally posted by Selzar

Rax noone likes your suggestions because they are horrible and I present to you horrible! Quote!

I like it, So I just proved your point WRONG.

If everyone had the same exact stats then it would show the skill that person had. BUT if they retain their levels, then it shows how much time they've played.

If everyone was the same, then Kingdom Battles would be better. It would mean that one level 20 cant go into a kingdom and kill everyone in a single hit.

It'd mean that you'd have to use stratagy to win wars, not brute force.

Brad · #4 02-09-2003, 06:51 PM

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Originally posted by Selzar

Rax noone likes your suggestions because they are horrible and I present to you horrible! Quote!

Noone likes you!

graaliholic · #5 02-09-2003, 08:48 PM

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Originally posted by Rax
I think when you're in a kingdom battle and on kingdom mode everyone should get like 200 hp and damage+like ummm 25 and same wc and ac so eevryone can be equal and stuff

Everyone can't be the same, there are sorcerers, priests, etc. who use spells, and different players use different spells/weapons, so they can't all be the same, else sorcerers would *gasp* have a chance!

Selzar · #6 02-09-2003, 09:17 PM

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Originally posted by Brad

Noone likes you!

I should say the same thing, but I don't scam.

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It would be dumb because EVERYONE had 200HP. Well im going to make your suggestion a bit better.
By ranks your HP would be set. If you were lets say the (ex. King or Queen or Emperor etc.) your HP would be high, and lets say General maybe lower then the ruler.

LOA--Paul · #7 02-09-2003, 09:27 PM

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Originally posted by Rax
I think when you're in a kingdom battle and on kingdom mode everyone should get like 200 hp and damage+like ummm 25 and same wc and ac so eevryone can be equal and stuff

Yes, but I dont think it should be TOTALLY equal, but some temp stat changes should be made.
Perhaps when you go on Kmode, the game will average the stats of everyone on Kmode and then lower / raise you nearer to it, but not exactly to it, or something

zell12 · #8 02-09-2003, 09:29 PM

This is stupid. We didn't spend over 500 hours getting our stats for nothing. fu porky

Zurkiba · #9 02-09-2003, 11:30 PM

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Originally posted by Selzar

I should say the same thing, but I don't scam.

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It would be dumb because EVERYONE had 200HP. Well im going to make your suggestion a bit better.
By ranks your HP would be set. If you were lets say the (ex. King or Queen or Emperor etc.) your HP would be high, and lets say General maybe lower then the ruler.

Brad is more loved than you so please dont go around and go "Everyone hates you",

And no, because then EVERYONE would be a king.

Selzar · #10 02-09-2003, 11:36 PM

did you listen to me ****?
THE RANK YOU WERE GIVEN IN YOU KINGDOM THERE IS ONLY 5 KINGS YOU FOOL. LETS SAY IM A SWORDSMAN YOUR HP WOULD BE 100 or something.

Rax · #11 02-10-2003, 12:39 AM

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Originally posted by Selzar
did you listen to me ****?
THE RANK YOU WERE GIVEN IN YOU KINGDOM THERE IS ONLY 5 KINGS YOU FOOL. LETS SAY IM A SWORDSMAN YOUR HP WOULD BE 100 or something.

you need anger management.all you do is get angry and yell and use alot of profanity

Selzar · #12 02-10-2003, 06:33 AM

Well is it fair when 2 people are against me.
Anger management thats a laugh, your a scammer ,people who steal even in a game and doesn't care if that person was crying they are real corrupt in real life.
So don't say I need anger management im just using the CAPS lock.

Zurkiba · #13 02-10-2003, 08:08 PM

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Originally posted by Selzar
did you listen to me ****?
THE RANK YOU WERE GIVEN IN YOU KINGDOM THERE IS ONLY 5 KINGS YOU FOOL. LETS SAY IM A SWORDSMAN YOUR HP WOULD BE 100 or something.

Did you listen to me?
Forest has three (3) kings... and about six people with K rights. If this system was to be installed then everyone in Forest would be a King or a Prince.

So you lack the common sense to even read my posts, so dont go acting like a goofball.

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Originally posted by zell12
This is stupid. We didn't spend over 500 hours getting our stats for nothing. fu porky

You're going to be reset when 2k2 is done anyways, and when that happens... everyone will want this system.

zell12 · #14 02-10-2003, 10:11 PM

We won't be reset, just the people that want to play the final debuged server can play it, and those that want to play on the old server can.

Rax · #15 02-11-2003, 01:12 AM

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Originally posted by zell12
We won't be reset, just the people that want to play the final debuged server can play it, and those that want to play on the old server can.

only losers would play on the old one eveyrone will be going to new one

Locke_boy · #16 02-12-2003, 12:47 AM

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Originally posted by Rax

only losers would play on the old one eveyrone will be going to new one

Well, hey hey! I'm finally not a loser!

Kinatt · #17 02-12-2003, 01:07 AM

This is the most idiotic suggestion to date any other suggestion you have ever posted (I think) for one thing a lvl 20 person if he can take out every person in the opposing kingdom then obviously the other kingdom needs help. The amount of time you put in a character shows how powerful he is, it still takes skill to be a good fighter. Complaining won't solve anything in the time you spent here arguing you could of got some exp. Shrimpie deserves his lvl and for it to not be taken away during a kingdom battle because he is a dedicated person to his character. Saying you want it to all be equal is just saying your too lazy/ don't want to put in the time to fight.. now maybe setting it so all equipment is the same is possibly a good idea. but setting everyones hp and lvl the same is just plain stupid and voids the point of gaining levels.

Locke_boy · #18 02-12-2003, 01:48 AM

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Originally posted by Kinatt
This is the most idiotic suggestion...

...point of gaining levels.

I wouldn't have put it so harshly, heh, but I'm with you on that.

Zurkiba · #19 02-12-2003, 05:00 PM

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Originally posted by Kinatt
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Personally I dont know Shrimp's sparring skills on a regular server, but I can garentee that most people over level 10 are horrible sparrers.

Levels show time not skill. Games are supposed to show skill not time.

Your post above has got to be the most idiotic. Because Shrimp can still gain levels, and I dont even think Shrimp is in a kingdom.

If everyone was the same, then it would mean that it would rely in numbers (Kingdoms are about equal right now), and stratagy. Not how much time you spend casting a single spell to kill the whole dugeon.

Kinatt · #20 02-12-2003, 06:33 PM

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Originally posted by Zurkiba

Personally I dont know Shrimp's sparring skills on a regular server, but I can garentee that most people over level 10 are horrible sparrers.

You can guarantee that? So just because someone put in a bunch of hours means they cannot spar? Can you back this up with actual information because from what I know that doesn't even make logical sense. It would seem to make more sense that they would be better at sparring considering the amount of time they have put into it compared to lower levels thus meaning more experiences with pvp. Think before you say anything please it's more of an eye sore than an opinion changer.

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Originally posted by Zurkiba

Levels show time not skill. Games are supposed to show skill not time.

Usually theres a direct relation between the two more time you spend on anything the better you get at it. Ever hear the saying "practice makes perfect?" You saying Games are suppose to do this or that a certain way is generalizing all games as one type. I personally can only think of one type of game which would be that way and that's a puzzle game (but even there im sure with the more time you spend on puzzles you get better).

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Your post above has got to be the most idiotic.

You say this without justification, and without justification this post of yours is the most idiotic, so do you want a prize for beating Rax?

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Because Shrimp can still gain levels, and I dont even think Shrimp is in a kingdom.

Shrimp can still gain levels, but so can you. Your idea of making his time and effort into his character equal to yours is just plain wrong in a sense that you don't want to spend the time to become that strong so you want to instead lower his abilities in a fight. Shrimp joined Zormite during the war. Shrimp IS in a kingdom, zormite. so I know that what you think is wrong.

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Originally posted by Zurkiba

If everyone was the same, then it would mean that it would rely in numbers (Kingdoms are about equal right now), and stratagy. Not how much time you spend casting a single spell to kill the whole dugeon.

It still relies on numbers however sending a bunch of disabled peasants who cannot fight, to battle a warlord with 3 times your strength and speed. As in every video game we know how this would end. That is why people must train hard to be good enough to fight with the best of them. Well, I admit that if everyone stood around casting one spelll for days on end is kind of ridiculous however that would be a suggestion to make a timer so you can't cast that ultra powerful spell but once every 15 minutes if your not a wizard.

Juron Pilo · #21 02-14-2003, 02:17 AM

The flaw with leveling is that it seperates player a from player b in such a way that the two cannot interact on a fair basis

same with equipment which is only truely earned half to less than half the time

Kinatt · #22 02-14-2003, 02:50 AM

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Originally posted by Juron Pilo
The flaw with leveling is that it seperates player a from player b in such a way that the two cannot interact on a fair basis

same with equipment which is only truely earned half to less than half the time

That really isn't a flaw, and they can interact on a fair basis to me it is fair that if someone spends 450 hours online they should naturally be more adept at fighting than someone who spent 10 hours. You cannot expect someone who has not trained at all in combat to be equal to a general of a kingdom who has trained his whole life, it just doesn't make good sense. It also adds to the Role play since a peasant rebel can't just go up to a general of an army and be equal to him on the whole fighting skill basis. It just isn't logical unless that peasant has trained constantly and is an undercover spy for another army thus said is a different circumstance anway.

Equipment should be earned I agree with you there Juron, I think Level requirements on weapons and armor need to be in place so things are earned.

Or if things are handed out at tournaments they should have the account name on them so that person can't give it to a newbie. I know your like well they should sell it! no they shouldn't it is a rare item that was earned by that player and by that player selling it to another player means another player gets that rare item only because they have alot of money to spare which they did not win the tournament they just saved money, which is unfair to everyone else because they want it and they have money. That part--> is my opinion if you don't like it you can kiss my patooey =)