staff abuse gj Er1C

screen_name · #1 09-17-2002, 08:51 AM

I was sitting in the store of tarnathia waiting for some new books and rings, so Ring of Fighting suddenly shows up and Er1c warps to it. OK so him and DragonX do something to get the rest of the plats they needed. So Er1c buys the ring and we all follow him outside. He does some more warping abuse stuff. Goes into a house so I follow him and DragonX and FFusion. So I'm think holy *&#$ if I gank this ring I will be rich. Stealing is legal, even though I try not to do it. But Ring Of Fighting for 1800 plats who would not try? Well I did I managed to break some pots and get inbetween the both of them and almost grab the ring. OK so I sit there for a few seconds and there like we will ban you if you take the ring or don't leave. OK abuse. I bet they would have done it if i got the ring. So I get warped to unstick me. End of story. Why is it that staff get to abuse thier priviledges? Is it just because you can't find anyone one else to script? I'm sure they do good work but there actions ruin the game for me. No one will lose there job over this kind of bull that the regular players have to put up with. Myself and all of the other people that actually pay for the game dont appreciate such a 1 sided playing field. How about we all get warp so when we dont like someone or what there doing we can just warp them to unstick me too?

:grrr: :grrr: :grrr:

P0t-

Valder · #2 09-17-2002, 08:55 AM

They are constantly doing it now and it's getting very annoying.

konidias · #3 09-17-2002, 09:01 AM

I will be getting my tools and things shortly (sometime this week). This will not be happening once I take care of the situation. I know they are abusing their powers a lot and I'm assuming they think it is okay because either:

1. They don't think it matters since this is Alpha
2. They think they can get away with it since they are the only people helping 2k2
3. They don't consider how the players will be affected by their inappropriate useage of their tools.

I've had my own encounters with Er1c, and I've seen both Er1c and DragonX, not to mention other people (that have no reason to need warping) have been warping around for their personal gain.

This is only alpha but this will stop now so that when 2k2 is fully released, we shouldn't have these problems.

Valder · #4 09-17-2002, 09:04 AM

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Originally posted by konidias
I will be getting my tools and things shortly (sometime this week). This will not be happening once I take care of the situation. I know they are abusing their powers a lot and I'm assuming they think it is okay because either:

1. They don't think it matters since this is Alpha
2. They think they can get away with it since they are the only people helping 2k2
3. They don't consider how the players will be affected by their inappropriate useage of their tools.

I've had my own encounters with Er1c, and I've seen both Er1c and DragonX, not to mention other people (that have no reason to need warping) have been warping around for their personal gain.

This is only alpha but this will stop now so that when 2k2 is fully released, we shouldn't have these problems.

These problems shouldn't exist to begin with... It's rediculous that they can give themselves 7302570327 different things and not get in trouble with it. Take away DragonX's power to edit attributes as well as warp and tell Er1c that if he does it, he's gone. This shouldn't be tolerated. I'm sure there are people out there that are fit to do what DragonX and Er1c do.

Torankusu · #5 09-17-2002, 09:05 AM

what does dragonx do anyway?

DragonX2 · #6 09-17-2002, 09:10 AM

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Originally posted by Valder

These problems shouldn't exist to begin with... It's rediculous that they can give themselves 7302570327 different things and not get in trouble with it. Take away DragonX's power to edit attributes as well as warp and tell Er1c that if he does it, he's gone. This shouldn't be tolerated. I'm sure there are people out there that are fit to do what DragonX and Er1c do.

Uh I don't have the ability to edit attributes why don't you get your damn facts straight. You say you see us doing this constantly, you are BARELY on 2k2 so what the hell are you talking about. I don't give myself things, I work in the dungeons, not that hard. There probably ARE people out there to fit in what I do but are they willing to help anyone that PM's them? I doubt it. I've been playing for over 500 hours and I've helped TONS of people, would you take 300 hours of your time to help people? Would anyone else? NO.

Everyone wants to just play, I play and I HELP which NOBODY else would probably want to do for a long period of time. Konidias, you shouldn't even be a GM, Ibonic is fine as the GM of the Gold Servers, you are a kingdom leader, what isn't stopping you from making Forest kingdom the best kingdom ever and giving your Forest friends all enhanced armor and weapons? I warp to check if people are alright, most people PM me saying 'I am stuck help me' so I warp to them and warp to ground and warp them to ground.

How did you get the GM spot Konidias? You sucked up, right? It's funny how 1 year ago people said I suck up, now who is? I DO consider how the players are affected konidias but I didn't do anything wrong, I got all my money legally and Er1c did too (we fight in dungeons a lot), I gave him my money and he bought the ring for me. What's so wrong with that? Are people not allowed to share money? There is no rule against it.

Do you want me fired so badly? Want me to stop helping everyone EVERYDAY? Want to stay stuck in walls all the time? Go ahead, go and complain, get me fired. I help out players a ton, if you want me gone so be it I don't satisfy you, get rid of me, whatever.

Torankusu · #7 09-17-2002, 09:12 AM

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Originally posted by DragonX2
Konidias, you shouldn't even be a GM.
How did you get the GM spot Konidias? You sucked up, right?

I LOEV U.

DragonX2 · #8 09-17-2002, 09:13 AM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
I LOEV U.

<3

Torankusu · #9 09-17-2002, 09:14 AM

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Originally posted by DragonX2

<3

hehe, yeah, well I think Konidias is one of the worst possible people to have anything on graal. Even an account. He's too damn paranoid.

konidias · #10 09-17-2002, 09:19 AM

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Originally posted by DragonX2
<big post>

I didn't say anything about firing you. Now that I am GM, I am having to give up my position of Forest King, as I know it would seem unfair, I already talked to unixmad about this yesterday.

Helping out players a ton doesn't mean you have the right to abuse warping, and I'm not the only one that sees you abusing it. I have absolutely no problem with you otherwise. I understand you help out players a lot and I appreciate this.

I really wish you wouldn't start making false accusations about me getting my position, and what I would do with my kingdom, because these are things that you know nothing about.

DragonX2 · #11 09-17-2002, 09:24 AM

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Originally posted by konidias

I didn't say anything about firing you. Now that I am GM, I am having to give up my position of Forest King, as I know it would seem unfair, I already talked to unixmad about this yesterday.

Helping out players a ton doesn't mean you have the right to abuse warping, and I'm not the only one that sees you abusing it. I have absolutely no problem with you otherwise. I understand you help out players a lot and I appreciate this.

I really wish you wouldn't start making false accusations about me getting my position, and what I would do with my kingdom, because these are things that you know nothing about.

Oh well sorry Mr. GM, Mr. Guy that came outta no where and just was 'magically' asked to receive the position. I believe Ibonic can do well by himself he doesn't need you helping him. How do I abuse my warp!? I warp to people that need help, usually I am in the magic shop so when I warp to someone and someone is in a house and I leave the house it puts me outside of the Tiranthia shop I don't warp there intentionally that's just how it's designed.

Good, it would be totally unfair that you still would own Forest kingdom if you were GM because it would be 'unfair to the players' like you put it before. I know I don't have the right to 'abuse my warping' and I don't do it ANYWAY. Well can you please explain to the people how exactly you got GM?

I seriously doubt Unixmad just came on one morning and said 'Hey guy you be GM' and then poof you are the new GM, there had to be something to do with you talking to him (we all know the word) and then you convinced him. If I am totally wrong, like I said before please explain to everyone how you got the job.

Valder · #12 09-17-2002, 09:26 AM

It's hard enough for me to get 100 plat let along 1800... Don't even start saying you are in dungeons a lot. I may not be on a lot because I have something called a life, but I do know the everytime I am on you have your nick saying "Waiting for something" and even if it isn't you are usually just walking around the overworld and/or warping.

Torankusu · #13 09-17-2002, 09:26 AM

the only reason i warp is because i'm stuck in inside buildings for some reason.

Valder · #14 09-17-2002, 09:28 AM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
the only reason i warp is because i'm stuck in inside buildings for some reason.

I get that a lot also. It happens when you press up while opening a door.

DragonX2 · #15 09-17-2002, 09:29 AM

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Originally posted by Valder
Don't even start saying you are in dungeons a lot.

I AM IN THE DUNGEONS A LOT, I am level 8 and I have pretty decent stats and like 8 spells. I spend most of my time in the dungeons and when I am out of the dungeons I am usually selling items that I obtained in the dungeons for tons of money (I usually get 300+ platinum each time I come out, well that is with the help of Ed's charisma spell <3).
Ask people if I stay in the dungeons with the skeletons, most will say yes (or I am in the other dungeon with 50 monsters in 1 room). Am I not allowed to wait for things in shops? Is it illegal? Why? So are you saying that others that wait for things in shops are doing bad things? I don't understand.

Valder · #16 09-17-2002, 09:32 AM

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Originally posted by DragonX2

I AM IN THE DUNGEONS A LOT, I am level 8 and I have pretty decent stats and like 8 spells. I spend most of my time in the dungeons and when I am out of the dungeons I am usually selling items that I obtained in the dungeons for tons of money (I usually get 300+ platinum each time I come out, well that is with the help of Ed's charisma spell <3).
Ask people if I stay in the dungeons with the skeletons, most will say yes (or I am in the other dungeon with 50 monsters in 1 room). Am I not allowed to wait for things in shops? Is it illegal? Why? So are you saying that others that wait for things in shops are doing bad things? I don't understand.

I can barely earn 2 plat when I come out of the dungeon and I was in there for almost 5 hours one night...

DragonX2 · #17 09-17-2002, 09:32 AM

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Originally posted by Valder

I can barely earn 2 plat when I come out of the dungeon and I was in there for almost 5 hours one night...

Were you in dungeon 1 or 2? Come to dungeon 2 (with skeletons) and you can earn money easily, I will kill skeletons while you gain money and you will see how fast you gain money.

Valder · #18 09-17-2002, 09:37 AM

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Originally posted by DragonX2

Were you in dungeon 1 or 2? Come to dungeon 2 (with skeletons) and you can earn money easily, I will kill skeletons while you gain money and you will see how fast you gain money.

If I knew where the hell that was, I would go. Someone needs to release a 2k2 full map because it's hard for me to get anywhere and I don't feel like exploring for 473741 hours...

DragonX2 · #19 09-17-2002, 09:41 AM

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Originally posted by Valder

If I knew where the hell that was, I would go. Someone needs to release a 2k2 full map because it's hard for me to get anywhere and I don't feel like exploring for 473741 hours...

You know Harmonia? The town to the northwest of Santerrain (starting town of main island) well go north (follow path) from Harmonia and you should find Haunted House Dungeons #2.

BeZeRkEr · #20 09-17-2002, 09:44 AM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
the only reason i warp is because i'm stuck in inside buildings for some reason.

because you lag?

Torankusu · #21 09-17-2002, 09:56 AM

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Originally posted by BeZeRkEr

because you lag?

no. it just won't let me out.

BeZeRkEr · #22 09-17-2002, 10:17 AM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
no. it just won't let me out.

you lagged during the wc3 game thats for sure

Torankusu · #23 09-17-2002, 10:21 AM

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Originally posted by BeZeRkEr

you lagged during the wc3 game thats for sure

yes.

that's not graal.
i need a new processor.

screen_name · #24 09-17-2002, 10:41 AM

LMAO this is funny, more abuse right after I did the first post I went back to playing. So I go to the 2nd dungeon ( the one with the skeletons) and I find DragonX there doing his PM thing. I start killing the skeletons. Next thing I know zach1 is in here from a warpto DragonX2. So I'm like hey man thats unfair regular ppl have to earn there keys to get in the last room. He replies "bite me" OK so i /spit zach1 and he says he is just there to talk to Dragon X cuz he is his "lubber" ? I say if ___________namehere was in the last room and I just wanted to talk to them I'd still have to earn my keys to get in there. Get the STFU noob as a reply and he can do that because he is just here to talk to DragonX and not kill anything. Well he killed quite a few monsters and In the process died. I laugh and what do I know he warps right back in to the room. K you can take it from there. We all know what its like to die in the last room and have to get them keys back just to get back in there. Yeah so then we argued some where and DragonX said he had to go to sleep and zach1 said the same, told each other they were "lubbers" and signed off.

When will this crap end I ask myself?

Well Konidias you've always been fair with me so I'm trusting you to manage the power abusing staffers and keep them from ruining the game. Who will take over as forest leader?

P0t-

LiL_NightFall · #25 09-17-2002, 10:51 AM

I will take over the forest.

J/k Koni wouldn't give me the forest until after I hand over my limited edition Chaka doll.

*hands Koni a limited edition Chaka doll*

Selzar · #26 09-17-2002, 10:56 AM

all staff shouldnt be able to warp only in debug server... they just abuse it on main server, 3 days ago er1c warped me to a bed of water for taking gonbais log... ... it is annoying how he abuses the warp, make arule now. no more warp... it takes all the fun out of the game when you see someoen just warp there.. and them warping there er anywere..

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ · #27 09-17-2002, 11:38 AM

Hi.

I'd like to announce that I have not used my warp for any immoral or personal gain since Porky adressed the issue some days ago.

I walk everywhere now, except when I'm stuck in a wall or someone wants me to hold their items for a reset (so I can put them in testbog)

Ghost Pirate · #28 09-17-2002, 11:48 AM

Why do people think kingdom leaders with some sort of power over graal will make their kingdom all powerful

When I was Kingdoms Admin I did no such thing

LiL_NightFall · #29 09-17-2002, 12:07 PM

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Originally posted by Ghost Pirate
Why do people think kingdom leaders with some sort of power over graal will make their kingdom all powerful

When I was Kingdoms Admin I did no such thing

Yeah I can vouch for Ghosty, when he cheated he cheated the RP way...that evil ship of doom. How many times did you drown me? 8?

*still having nightmares*

Ghost Pirate · #30 09-17-2002, 12:09 PM

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Originally posted by LiL_NightFall

Yeah I can vouch for Ghosty, when he cheated he cheated the RP way...that evil ship of doom. How many times did you drown me? 8?

*still having nightmares*

I drowned you before?

I supposedly made many walk the plank
but sadly they most of the time walked back on the ship =X

Valder · #31 09-17-2002, 12:48 PM

Who shall take over Forest? I do not know, but I would like it to be someone that is capable...

screen_name · #32 09-17-2002, 01:28 PM

I just looked at the forest poll and Brad got 2nd in the forest poll> Is there gonna be a revote or Brad will become the new leader?

I'm fine with whoever just as long as we dont get a #$%^ kingdom.

P0t-

R0b1n-NPC · #33 09-17-2002, 02:08 PM

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Originally posted by DragonX2
'Hey guy you be GM'

Actually...

Valder · #34 09-17-2002, 02:48 PM

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Originally posted by screen_name
I just looked at the forest poll and Brad got 2nd in the forest poll> Is there gonna be a revote or Brad will become the new leader?

I'm fine with whoever just as long as we dont get a #$%^ kingdom.

P0t-

I like brad and all, but he has shown in the past that he wouldn't make a good leader...

brock128 · #35 09-17-2002, 06:44 PM

IN ALL

Respect points for Koni + 500
Eric - 100
DragonX - 500
Toran - 200

Ghost Pirate · #36 09-17-2002, 08:50 PM

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Originally posted by brock128
IN ALL

Respect points for Koni + 500
Eric - 100
DragonX - 500
Toran - 200

The sucking up begins...

Selzar · #37 09-17-2002, 09:18 PM

this .. thread has just became a talking social thread talk about er1c and his abuse of warpn,gr it makes me mad to see him warp EVERYWERE

Valder · #38 09-17-2002, 10:08 PM

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Originally posted by Ghost Pirate

The sucking up begins...

It's been going on since forever. I just wanna know when it will stop...

screen_name · #39 09-18-2002, 03:04 AM

I haven't been around long enough to judge anyone really, like about brad being a bad kingdom leader so I wont. I started playing graal 2k2 when a friend gave me his account, and I loved it. I'm so hooked

Tell me guys that have been around for a long time. Is this warp abuse and blatant cheating always going on? Or just on 2k2?

P0t-

-Axel- · #40 09-18-2002, 03:19 AM

I was cool with Dragon until he started to abuse his abilities.

I used to look up to Dragon, but now I see him camp in the first dungeon at the beginning area where there are no monsters, before the first door firing many, many lightning down and killing everything. I also seen him warp into the Dungeon many times. Its a horrid thing to watch.