Why did graal de-evolve?

konidias · #1 08-09-2001, 06:39 PM

The graphics graal has now are nothing compared to the zelda graphics.. usually when you clone a game you try to make things better, or at least equal.. but some things just got ruined when graal changed its graphics.. Like the big stone statue (in lower left corner of pics1.png) It was way better in the original version.. same goes for houses and tables.. now it seems with the new graal pw's being released, they are trying to revert to a more classic, decent graphic style.. I pray that they do =)

So uhh I'm making a poll so this isn't spam.. =D

::added:: Of course the original zelda graphics were more pixelated but the design of them was so much better.. I really wish the tileset would be redesigned with more detail someday.

enishi-2001 · #2 08-09-2001, 06:49 PM

we didnt exacly "de-volve" i actually like the tile set right now but im not really fussed becuase i know the staff will do a good job no matter what. So ill just sit back in my chair and pearl dive so i can buy my second bomy and house.

enishi-2001 · #3 08-09-2001, 06:50 PM

hmm now that i think and just viewed my tile set yeh it could use some inprovments.

konidias · #4 08-09-2001, 06:52 PM

Heres the old pics1.. check out some of the changes graal had made to it.. I personally loved the old house designs, and a lot of the design.. I'm not saying graal needs to use zelda graphics and get sued, I'm just saying I think they just edited the graphics and downgraded them instead of remaking them with detail =/

http://konidias.homestead.com/files/pics1.gif

Zulithe · #5 08-09-2001, 09:02 PM

Yes, I much perfer that older style (more zelda-ish) of graphics Graal DID use.

The current Graal tileset is horrible!!!! Just look at it! I really dislike the way trees look (what the hell... those do not look like trees! UGLY UGLY UGLY and the roots are ugly too) I hate the signs they have smiles on them, why do the blocks have japanese text? Why do the bushes have red berries. The "lava" tiles are the worst, look at some of those tiles! Like there is this strange stone with spikes and it's all just black and red with no detail. The tombstones have like this crystal at the base... wtf? The mailboxes... ugly. On and on and on

I've said it before, the tileset is Graal's weakest link. Horrid and inconsistent.

And that is just the tip of the iceberg. Lots of the heads are ugly, some of the bodies suffer from some horrible design flaws, the horses have these huge freakin' grins on their faces and they probably suffer from dry-mouth syndrome because they can't ever close their mouth. And that is all just from the top of my head

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ · #6 08-09-2001, 09:29 PM

Graal did not de-evolve, however the reason I started playing Graal in the first place is because it's not one of those games where you beat a quest, you've beaten the whole game and there is nothing else to do. You can sill participate in events, gets cash and all that stuff. However, I must agree lately it has been a bit boring and I hope some new servers come out soon

Archeon · #7 08-09-2001, 09:32 PM

lack of things to do

Fai · #8 08-09-2001, 09:56 PM

The tileset is a little plain compared to the Zelda one. They could make a new one for a change and it would be nicer and something new and fun and happy.

FatherDante · #9 08-09-2001, 10:35 PM

I don't see anything wrong with the tileset.

Fai · #10 08-09-2001, 10:36 PM

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Originally posted by FatherDante
I don't see anything wrong with the tileset.

Me neither. Just the castle tiles. And the colors of some things are pretty stupid. It would be nice to see something new for a change though.

Slaktmaster · #11 08-09-2001, 10:44 PM

New castle tiles and remove sign smiles

Valder · #12 08-09-2001, 11:03 PM

that is why some servers are creating their own tilesets

FatherDante · #13 08-09-2001, 11:07 PM

I think the old castle tiles (The grey ones) aren't used enough. The less a tile is used, the more unique and cool it is.

Fai · #14 08-09-2001, 11:50 PM

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Originally posted by Slaktmaster
New castle tiles and remove sign smiles

I like the smily signs

Zulithe · #15 08-10-2001, 12:08 AM

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Originally posted by Fai

I like the smily signs

You complain about things on Graal probably more than 90% of the playerbase, yet you like the smile signs... hmm

manton · #16 08-10-2001, 12:10 AM

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Originally posted by Fai

I like the smily signs

So do I.
When you lift them they get sad. =(

Huggles · #17 08-10-2001, 01:19 AM

Hawk:
The old tileset (of where konidias was) was really nice.
I liked it because it looked more like zelda.
Now, graal is too advanced and stuff.
Hard to explain.
Nothing wrong with the tileset now.
But of course, Stefan has done an excellent job.

konidias · #18 08-10-2001, 01:31 AM

Yeah I don't mean to be putting down stefan in any way, it's a lot of work to have a decent tileset for a game, I just think maybe there should be changes to it soon. Some of the tiles just really lack detail =/

Iracious · #19 08-10-2001, 01:57 AM

The pics1 may not be perfect but it certainly hasn't "deevolved". It wouldn't be too hard to get someone to do a new pics1 PNG, heck, they could pay someone to do it and get a really good one. They are just adding onto the game before they make such drastic changes like a whole new pics1 PNG

General · #20 08-10-2001, 02:02 AM

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Originally posted by Zulithe
Yes, I much perfer that older style (more zelda-ish) of graphics Graal DID use.

The current Graal tileset is horrible!!!! Just look at it! I really dislike the way trees look (what the hell... those do not look like trees! UGLY UGLY UGLY and the roots are ugly too) I hate the signs they have smiles on them, why do the blocks have japanese text? Why do the bushes have red berries. The "lava" tiles are the worst, look at some of those tiles! Like there is this strange stone with spikes and it's all just black and red with no detail. The tombstones have like this crystal at the base... wtf? The mailboxes... ugly. On and on and on

I've said it before, the tileset is Graal's weakest link. Horrid and inconsistent.

And that is just the tip of the iceberg. Lots of the heads are ugly, some of the bodies suffer from some horrible design flaws, the horses have these huge freakin' grins on their faces and they probably suffer from dry-mouth syndrome because they can't ever close their mouth. And that is all just from the top of my head

It is sorta strange to see a tree with testicles

TrueHeaT · #21 08-10-2001, 02:23 AM

having the power to delete those god-awful lava tiles and gray castle tiles for my PW makes me smile

SagaTCN · #22 08-10-2001, 02:29 AM

Graal doesn't need to go back to the zelda tile set.

It just needs to add like at least some detial to the tileset. It's like it got less detailed. More tiles but still no improvements in detail...

Jerom · #23 08-10-2001, 03:52 AM

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Originally posted by TrueHeaT
having the power to delete those god-awful lava tiles and gray castle tiles for my PW makes me smile

Thats what I'm doing RIGHT NOW

I made 3 new tree trunks, some flowers*checks back to pics1.png*, 4 mushrooms, bushes with different sizes and shapes, new signs, new fence posts*takes a breather*..., ok, then I made a few dead tree trunks for the new tree trunks. I'm going to be making more later today too.

View Poll Results: What do you think about the tileset change from the days of old?
I wish graal would make its tileset better / I don't like the current tileset	22	70.97%
I like the current tileset	2	6.45%
The tileset doesn't really matter to me	7	22.58%
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