Speed Levels

[email protected] · #1 05-28-2009, 08:26 PM

Just wondering what the reasons were to remove speed boosting?

I suggest making it a temp boost that lasts a couple of days.

salesman · #2 05-28-2009, 08:39 PM

I want to add a 'sprint key' but others don't think it's a good idea

I think it would be a great addition to pking...

Thanatoses · #3 05-28-2009, 08:56 PM

A sprint key would be an idiotic idea. It'd be a disservice to pking, a player instantaneously altering their speed at will is silly. Any speed changes should be gradual and long-term, ex. cappucino lasting x number of minutes.
Not a player press "R" when low hp and instantly bursts out the door.

Codein · #4 05-28-2009, 08:58 PM

Maybe you work up to a max speed and then, from peak speed, slow down until out of breath?

I dunno, just an idea?

salesman · #5 05-28-2009, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Thanatoses

A sprint key would be an idiotic idea. It'd be a disservice to pking, a player instantaneously altering their speed at will is silly. Any speed changes should be gradual and long-term, ex. cappucino lasting x number of minutes.
Not a player press "R" when low hp and instantly bursts out the door.

It's not like all players wouldn't have the same ability. And it would only be short bursts, nothing long term. A lot of good games have sprinting, but like Dusty said they're not 2d. I still think it'd be fun, especially if over-using it caused you to become "exhausted" and run slower until you catch your breath or something (like GTA). You'd have to learn how to use it wisely.

Edit: When I say sprinting I mean going from what used to be level 1 to level 3, or something. Not like turning on boots, lol

Thanatoses · #6 05-28-2009, 09:23 PM

The ability to escape death due to speed or other reasons is already a large enough disservice to pking, why would expanding on that do the opposite? Be logical, just because you think something is "cool", does not mean its applicable to Era. Its generally a silly idea for several reasons, in this case the cons outweigh the pros because there are no pros. Era is not GTA.

salesman · #7 05-28-2009, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Thanatoses

The ability to escape death due to speed or other reasons is already a large enough disservice to pking, why would expanding on that do the opposite? Be logical, just because you think something is "cool", does not mean its applicable to Era. Its generally a silly idea for several reasons, in this case the cons outweigh the pros because there are no pros. Era is not GTA.

First, I didn't say Era was GTA, I was simply using its sprinting system as an example...it's not the only game that has that feature.

I was thinking more about sparring than anything else, but I can see how running might be a problem when pking...The thing is, if someone sprints away, you can just sprint after them. There's no advantage to runners, because everyone will have the same thing -- it wouldn't be any different than someone running away if there wasn't a sprint key. Runners exist, regardless.

Crono · #8 05-29-2009, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by salesman

I want to add a 'sprint key' but others don't think it's a good idea

I think it would be a great addition to running...

Fixed that for you.

DustyPorViva · #9 05-28-2009, 09:04 PM

I don't think higher speed is possible in a server like Era, even if it works in other online(probably 3D) shooting games. In online FPS', your range is at a much, much higher rate than Era(and Graal) because of the perspective, able to view upwards to a mile away. Most importantly: bullets on Era are slow. A player sprinting will be quickly out of sight and will most likely just outrun any bullets, posing no real threat to the player. However, this is just working off memory.

kia345 · #10 05-28-2009, 09:10 PM

Speed should affect reload times, or add weapon hotkeying and make speed affect the change time. Era is a horrible server to have unique run speeds.

Frankie · #11 05-28-2009, 09:50 PM

I'm taking Wil's side on this one and I'm sure many others will too.

sprinting would just make it easier to get away from fights. think of the distance between BH and unstick me. you may not be able to sprint for long but such a short distance to get into a safe zone like BH -> unstick will give you a huge advantage when using it.

it works in different games but it won't work on Era.

CharlieM · #12 05-28-2009, 10:48 PM

Atrius had a sprint key that was like GTA, you used it while moving till the meter ran out then you had to wait until the meter filled back up

cbk1994 · #13 05-29-2009, 12:37 AM

If you have skill, then chances are you can kill someone who is fleeing. Unskilled players tend to try to dodge bullets while they're running, which ultimately makes them get hit more.

Frankie · #14 05-29-2009, 01:06 AM

people can catch runners but both people will have the sprint so it will basically cancel out. there's no point.

salesman · #15 05-29-2009, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankie

people can catch runners but both people will have the sprint so it will basically cancel out. there's no point.

If you have lower HP and are trying to run away, your sprint wouldn't last as long, and the other person would catch up to you.

Frankie · #16 05-29-2009, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by salesman

If you have lower HP and are trying to run away, your sprint wouldn't last as long, and the other person would catch up to you.

the second people realize they're going to lose a fight they book it. this can be at 80 - 100 HP.

Frankie9011 · #17 05-29-2009, 02:40 AM

A "sprint" key is a completely horrible idea.
My whole attraction to Era is that it's completely different from any other "shooter". Era is has more prediction, timing, and dodging than any other game I've ever played. And that's because it's completely unique, considering bullet speed, character mass, point of view, and the most important one: only 4 directional shooting.

Adding a sprint key is just pointless. In my opinion, era's system of pking is absolutely perfect. Why mess with something that's already good? It's like how Gears of War 1 is better than 2 because 2 tried too hard. I think taking away speed levels was a great start, but now you have me worried Sales, especially hearing this idea from someone of your caliber.

salesman · #18 05-29-2009, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankie9011

A "sprint" key is a completely horrible idea.
My whole attraction to Era is that it's completely different from any other "shooter". Era is has more prediction, timing, and dodging than any other game I've ever played. And that's because it's completely unique, considering bullet speed, character mass, point of view, and the most important one: only 4 directional shooting.

Adding a sprint key is just pointless. In my opinion, era's system of pking is absolutely perfect. Why mess with something that's already good? It's like how Gears of War 1 is better than 2 because 2 tried too hard. I think taking away speed levels was a great start, but now you have me worried Sales, especially hearing this idea from someone of your caliber.

I like having more things going on, more to do, more options. I guess I'm just bored with it...which is why I don't pk hardly at all anymore.

DuBsTeRmAn · #19 05-29-2009, 03:12 PM

I agree that there shouldn't be a Spring-Key, tough personally i would love it because i run alot from Main to SR and that would go faster lol..

But i don't think it would be great, Just remove the speed or keep it..

Pelikano · #20 05-29-2009, 03:32 PM

There's actually a sprint key, just take your skateboard and run with it.

DuBsTeRmAn · #21 05-29-2009, 03:49 PM

That's not a key but a tool.