Lack of Events

[FenixTheBanished]

There seems to be a major lack of events or activities that staff members are doing. I am not sure why this is, but I have seen nearly no events being done since the week of Halloween, which was almost a month ago. The only ones I have seen are some by Plasma and the "big event" called 'Murder'. Maroku has hosted a couple raffles but that is mostly it. There used to be events almost daily or close enough so that people had things to look forward to and enjoy. I would like to see, and I am sure I am not the only one, more events or activities being held to pull more people to play our server. Just a thought, hope it gets heeded.

-Fenix

[kia345]

I told Maroku to rehire me because the EMs suck. I'm apparently not allowed to tell him what to do.

[Stephen]

We have begun a events schedule, which guarantees a specific number of events at specific times. This schedule doesn't limit events to those times, but instead guarantees that an event will occur - so that you may be ready and expect it.

Half an hour previous to the creation of this thread, there was a large series of events held. It's hardly reasonable to expect the EMs to create a new event every week, or they would spend less time hosting the "regular" events and more working on their new ones.

I have encouraged our events team to be creative, while asking them to keep a priority to their existing schedules. I think if anything, we have created a much more stable events environment - all events are logged, their winners logged, and the prizes given away without any actual decrease in the previous events schedule.

In closing, what I'm suggesting is that this is a error of expectations, and that while at least maintaining the previous level of events, we have increased and regulated events from their previous state.

[kia345]

Originally Posted by Stephen

We have begun a events schedule, which guarantees a specific number of events at specific times. This schedule doesn't limit events to those times, but instead guarantees that an event will occur - so that you may be ready and expect it.

Me and Pat had like 30 events a week with half decent prizes before this ****ty "LOLSCHEDULES" idea came up. Give the EMs a loaded bag and say "host it all this week or you're fired".

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by kia345

Me and Pat had like 30 events a week with half decent prizes before this ****ty "LOLSCHEDULES" idea came up. Give the EMs a loaded bag and say "host it all this week or you're fired".

Originally Posted by Stephen

We have begun a events schedule, which guarantees a specific number of events at specific times. This schedule doesn't limit events to those times, but instead guarantees that an event will occur - so that you may be ready and expect it.

I guess you didn't read the first paragraph in the post you were responding to.

[kia345]

Originally Posted by Stephen

I guess you didn't read the first paragraph in the post you were responding to.

I wasn't so much as replying to your post, but replying to the schedule itself.

Originally Posted by Gothika

Thanks a bunch.

That's why I love you so much, you're so forgiving <3

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by FenixTheBanished

Yes, but I am speaking on a more small scale, not big touranments or anything of that sort, because those are needed and fun and spice things up, it doesnt help with the day to day where for a week you have a couple events when before we would have some almost every day. Now im not saying this to try to flood the economy with ecs or w/e else prizes, but it helps with people wanting to be on because clearly, after you get to how long you and i have played, there is not anything in the game that you havent already done 100x over. So it just helps people wanna play when they are in an event and compete against each other.

There are events daily.

Originally Posted by kia345

I wasn't so much as replying to your post, but replying to the schedule itself.

The schedule doesn't limit events; it simply guarantees there'll be at least one event at a specific and dependable time.

[Googi]

It would be good if kingdoms could host more events, but it's hard to get the word out to members since most don't read the forums (though I'm trying to build a database of Zormite E-Mails/AIM names to remedy this). It might be a good idea to let each kingdom to appoint a person to receive an EM tag. Maybe even two if they can demonstrate a timezone need. The kingdom EM wouldn't be able to pillory. They wouldn't be given an events bag, but they would be able to host server-wide events (funded by themselves or the kingdom) for kingdom publicity/recruitment.

[Gothika]

Originally Posted by FenixTheBanished

I am not sure why this is, but I have seen nearly no events being done since the week of Halloween, which was almost a month ago. The only ones I have seen are some by Plasma and the "big event" called 'Murder'. Maroku has hosted a couple raffles but that is mostly it.

I done that big Hotaru Tourement a week ago, and a pretty decent buried treasure event the other weekend.
And I'll be doing Soccer and Hockey this weekend too.

Originally Posted by kia345

I told Maroku to rehire me because the EMs suck.

Thanks a bunch.

[FenixTheBanished]

Originally Posted by Gothika

I done that big Hotaru Tourement a week ago, and a pretty decent buried treasure event the other weekend.
And I'll be doing Soccer and Hockey this weekend too.



Thanks a bunch.

Yes, but I am speaking on a more small scale, not big touranments or anything of that sort, because those are needed and fun and spice things up, it doesnt help with the day to day where for a week you have a couple events when before we would have some almost every day. Now im not saying this to try to flood the economy with ecs or w/e else prizes, but it helps with people wanting to be on because clearly, after you get to how long you and i have played, there is not anything in the game that you havent already done 100x over. So it just helps people wanna play when they are in an event and compete against each other.

[Soala]

There should be Events Masters for each Kingdoms, if only GK had a bit more players

[cyan3]

Originally Posted by alexandralove

There should be Events Masters for each Kingdoms, if only GK had a bit more players

I don't see why Kingdoms need Events Masters. Any member of a kingdom can host an event in a kingdom not just the leader. I know when Sam was Events Admin he told the current Events Masters to use the event rights to help with kingdom events.

[Googi]

Originally Posted by cyan3

I don't see why Kingdoms need Events Masters. Any member of a kingdom can host an event in a kingdom not just the leader. I know when Sam was Events Admin he told the current Events Masters to use the event rights to help with kingdom events.

If an EM had to find another EM and host all their events through them, do you think they would host more or fewer events than if they could host them themselves?

[cyan3]

Originally Posted by Googi

If an EM had to find another EM and host all their events through them, do you think they would host more or fewer events than if they could host them themselves?

True, but you don't need fancy rights to host good events within kingdoms. but the options is available if an Events Master is willing to help.

[Googi]

Pretty much every argument here for or against the schedule is based on the faulty premise that knowledge of the schedule is actually widespread.

[CABAL49]

Originally Posted by Googi

Pretty much every argument here for or against the schedule is based on the faulty premise that knowledge of the schedule is actually widespread.

This pretty much sums up my opinion of the schedule. Most of the players of GK don't use the forums.

[Sam]

I think as long as this is not going into a flame or bash thread players should talkl about their wishes. so I reopend the thread.

[Tigairius]

The events schedule is an important part of the events team on Graal Kingdoms. It is carefully considered and certainly not forced. The only difference is, as far as I know, Events Masters who participate in the events schedule receive a bonus amount of staff coins at the end of the week. We're not just going to hire tons of Events Masters without careful consideration because each Events Master that is hired increases the possibility of corruption. All Events Masters are chosen carefully in a timely manner but with consideration to not choose the wrong person.

You're simply asking too much for there to constantly be events. If there were constantly events the price of event coins would shoot down, all other prizes given out in events would make the items valueless and as a result the economy would be struck quite hard. It's not as simple as "hold more events!" The only reasonable way to do this would be to drastically increase the price of items in the event shop and only give out event coins.

I agree that there aren't as many events as there should be sometimes, and that's why I start holding events. I really think this thread has no base to the argument other than simply wanting to argue. If you have an idea or plans on how we can improve the Events Master system in a professional and considerate way, please let me know.

[FenixTheBanished]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

The events schedule is an important part of the events team on Graal Kingdoms. It is carefully considered and certainly not forced. The only difference is, as far as I know, Events Masters who participate in the events schedule receive a bonus amount of staff coins at the end of the week. We're not just going to hire tons of Events Masters without careful consideration because each Events Master that is hired increases the possibility of corruption. All Events Masters are chosen carefully in a timely manner but with consideration to not choose the wrong person.

You're simply asking too much for there to constantly be events. If there were constantly events the price of event coins would shoot down, all other prizes given out in events would make the items valueless and as a result the economy would be struck quite hard. It's not as simple as "hold more events!" The only reasonable way to do this would be to drastically increase the price of items in the event shop and only give out event coins.

I agree that there aren't as many events as there should be sometimes, and that's why I start holding events. I really think this thread has no base to the argument other than simply wanting to argue. If you have an idea or plans on how we can improve the Events Master system in a professional and considerate way, please let me know.

Thats just the thing, this thread has nothing to do with arguing and it annoys me that everyone assumes that. I am not the only one who feels there haven't been that many events, and everyone jumps to conclusions that im saying "HOLD DOUBLE OR TRIPLE THE AMOUNT OF EVENTS!"

Thats not what I am saying at all and everyone just assumes to jump to that conclusion. The people that are holding events are more or less Maroku, *Naith*, and Plasma on a more or less consistent basis. I know that other EMs have prizes and what not that just choose not to event their stuff while theyre online, and Im not going to name any names, and there also have been some EMs that have been completely inactive, once again not naming anyone. I think we have an ample amount of current EMs, but only like 3 are holding events consistently. And Im not asking for there to be events 24/7 nor constantly, but like 1-3 a day I dont think is all that much considering that its not like ONLY ECs can be evented, Sapphires, Rubies, Carrots, EAs, IWDs, Diamonds, ECs, Immenses, Brutals, and some other interested things that you sometimes come up with (Tig) give more then ample amount of things to event. The number of ACTUAL EMs is perfectly fine because when they are all eventing, like before Halloween, it was great, and in that time i didnt see any drastic change in prices, if anything the cost of immenses, brutals, & ecs have gone up because of lack of availability *and increase in demand of players wanting to level*.

Tig and Stephen and anyone else that sees my threads as flaming should assume that unless I am actually flaming someone that I name then I'm not, because if I want to flame Ill just flame. But I was just addressing an issue that I myself felt was in need of attention, but also had people mentioning it to me and when I would bring it up, agreeing with me. So I felt the need to make a thread that got out of hand with people pointing fingers or assuming that I was pointing them. So, in that respect, I am sorry to cause the confusion. I am just bringing up topics that I know are being talked about between players, but some either don't feel that they should say anything, don't have forum access, or whatever other reasons exist. Just trying to find out what's up and what staff thinks is going on. So, for future reference, if I make a controversial thread, which is my tendency *because otherwise there is no reason to make one in my opinion*, just look at what I am saying and take it at face value, don't assume I'm flaming please.

And thank you for reopening the thread.

[kia345]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

The events schedule is an important part of the events team on Graal Kingdoms.

Important? It's only been around a short time, I never remember having to keep a schedule, and we seemed to get along fine - if not better - without it.

[Ravenblade1979]

Originally Posted by kia345

Important? It's only been around a short time, I never remember having to keep a schedule, and we seemed to get along fine - if not better - without it.

I agree with Pojo on this point. From the sounds of it you have had more difficulty with scheduled events then with the old system.

I mean you could do the bigger events scheduled but the smaller more common ones just let the em's host whenever. You don't neccessarily have to give out EC's in them..maybe brutals or rubies. Keep the bigger prices for the scheduled events.

[Tigairius]

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

I agree with Pojo on this point. From the sounds of it you have had more difficulty with scheduled events then with the old system.

The events schedule isn't forced, it is merely a 'background' support system for the events team. So it is still the old system, EMs can still host events at any time they want, but if the EMs sign up, they have to host at the time they signed up as well as any time they want. The schedule system can do nothing but benefit GK.

[kia345]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

EMs can still host events at any time they want

The problem is that they don't. That's why there's so few events, because they stick to the schedule. Ditch the schedule and require there be an event hosted 8/10ths of the day everyday.

If you log on and see an EM off tag and no event has been hosted 10 minutes ago, then there's a problem.

[Gothika]

Why does my name have **'s around it?

Anyway, speaking from the inside. I find scheduled events hard to host.
When I done the big Hotaru Tournement with Maroku we found out that the players have a hard job of getting online at specific times, especialy those who have college.
And obviously you can't find a stable time to fit in all the different time zones.

[Craigus]

I think the idea for having some set times and some planned events each week for some of the events is a great idea, i believe alot of events are not held because of lack of players and even if just a few more log on at the select times it could allow the EM's to hold more intresting events. At the moment they can be held back by playercount.

If this system was put in place i know that i for one would attend alot more events then i currently do.

[Sam]

To be an EM is fun AND a burden. I think you must find a way to have motivated EM's with different ideas.
What about temporary EM's for a week or EM's hosting on a specific day (Monday, Tuesday...)? Just an idea. My experience is that new EM's hosting many events and after a few days they lose interest or getting sick about players disturbing events.

[Gothika]

Originally Posted by Sam

TMy experience is that new EM's hosting many events and after a few days they lose interest or getting sick about players disturbing events.

What I get sick of is EVERYONE asking for raffle. All the time. It's pretty much raffle, waterglass or musical chairs. Thats all people want.
No one even wants to do soccer anymore. People used to jump at the chance to do that.

Originally Posted by BigBear3

Now let me tell you why I don't host as much as I used to.

I hate logging. Sorry. I still host more than most of the EMs. I just HATE logging them.

I don't mind it that much. Atleast its not as hard to fill out as the old one. Where we had to put down the account name for whoever won a prize. Which gets crazy when Graal718272 accounts get into it.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Gothika

What I get sick of is EVERYONE asking for raffle. All the time. It's pretty much raffle, waterglass or musical chairs. Thats all people want.
No one even wants to do soccer anymore. People used to jump at the chance to do that.

That's an important point! There are many people just wants to have events for getting free stuff without doing anything.
Events like raffles should only made for low prices like food, lvl. 1-3 maps and such things.
One big problem of GK is that players didn't get that it is a roleplay- and community-server in the first row!
GK lacks on headmen like Alan. He was able to lead his citizens in war and peace and make amazing ship battles and stuff.

GK is boring when players just sit and wait instead get in action. I am sick about people just sitting there and waiting for others to entertain them.

[cyan3]

Originally Posted by Sam

One big problem of GK is that players didn't get that it is a roleplay- and community-server in the first row!
GK lacks on headmen like Alan. He was able to lead his citizens in war and peace and make amazing ship battles and stuff.

GK is boring when players just sit and wait instead get in action. I am sick about people just sitting there and waiting for others to entertain them.

I've noticed that most players don't care about role playing and kingdom activity. When I was Governor of CP I planned big events at least every 2 weeks but people didn't turn up so I was forced to cancel them.

[FenixTheBanished]

Originally Posted by Sam

That's an important point! There are many people just wants to have events for getting free stuff without doing anything.
Events like raffles should only made for low prices like food, lvl. 1-3 maps and such things.
One big problem of GK is that players didn't get that it is a roleplay- and community-server in the first row!
GK lacks on headmen like Alan. He was able to lead his citizens in war and peace and make amazing ship battles and stuff.

GK is boring when players just sit and wait instead get in action. I am sick about people just sitting there and waiting for others to entertain them.

One of the major problems Sam is that people just dont want to RP anymore. Some think its nerdy, and some are just to childish to get into it. Personally I like RPing some of the time, but also I dont want to have to type in proper English and punctuation 24/7, it just gets annoying as hell. And this server is community oriented likely as its most attractive facet, thats why i have always came back, to see my friends, otherwise I wouldnt play this game. But once youve done everything about 1000 times Sam it gets boring as hell. And when new updates come out such as Vanirs that get nerfed so bad that people dont even want to play the new content they are left wanting for event items. And another problem is that like in World of Warcraft we dont have quests and such that can help lower level players get decent gear, which makes it very hard for them to rise from nothing to something without help from people. Being a noob and not understanding how the game works, to log on and try to get items that dont even exist for you to lose at a low level makes it really unattractive to play, because its like Russia in the 20th century, theres a huge gap between the rich and the poor. And as long as items are given away in events and such then it will remain that way, the poor will get bought out by the rich and then be left to try to make their way with Ice shields and such. I really think the whole STAT point system needs to be redone into not a 30 stat, but a 100 stat system, where everything scales the same exact way and with gold keys you can hit 20 natural. Then from there make items that currently have 1 str on it give 10 str in the new system or w/e would make it scale perfectly for current gear to give the same stats in a 100 max system and then that would open up massive amounts of gear to have stats that werent so restricted and it would allow new players to get more gear because more gear could be made without it being overpowered.