Universal Tailor

[DustyPorViva]

I propose a Universal Tailor to be implemented. This tailor would be activated via F4(or some other macro), and be documented as well. The tailor will allow the players to easily change their head, shield, sword, body, and body colors. Along with it the ability to save changes into 20 different slots. These slots will be universal among the Graal servers(perhaps saved the same way the buddy list is?) so the player can load up their look as soon as they log on to a new server.

I know this will conflict with servers that use custom looks and all... but I don't think that it will conflict so much as to defeat the purpose. I hate having to log onto a new server I'm trying out and going through a whole process of making my character look like me. Especially since every server has a different way of changing colors. It's annoying trying to figure it all out each time. How do you think that looks towards new players? Having to change the look of their player the biggest quest on Graal ever?

One thing that shouldn't be included are hats, since I know hats are implemented differently on different servers.

[napo_p2p]

I think this is a good idea. As for the servers that use custom looks, there can always be a serveroption or something that disables the tailor menu.

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by napo_p2p

I think this is a good idea. As for the servers that use custom looks, there can always be a serveroption or something that disables the tailor menu.

I was going to post the exact same thing, but I figure a lot of servers would just disable it and use their own custom one(thinking it's better), leading to the exact same problem there is now. I think if this is done(which I'm sure it'll have to be for some servers), it'll have to be approved via PWA.

[Tigairius]

You could make a script that does it and easily do the cross-server style saving by just saving the text files on the client's computer. Sounds like a nice idea. You'd have to get all the playerworlds to participate though.

[Crow]

Well, all heads, bodies and shields would have to be uploaded to all the playerworlds using this. That's a bit tricky. Other than that, nice idea.

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Crow

Well, all heads, bodies and shields would have to be uploaded to all the playerworlds using this. That's a bit tricky. Other than that, nice idea.

Why? I mean it would be nice, but that's not necessary. Simply have textbox where you type in the head filename. It sucks that it has to be done that way but because of the way Graal handles this kind of stuff it's the simplest way to do it effectively.

[xXziroXx]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

You'd have to get all the playerworlds to participate though.

Could just have a GST implement something like this:

PHP Code:

this.disabledServers = {"Graal Kingdoms", "Zone" };
if (!(servername in this.disabledServers)) {
  // proceed
} 


Of course, servers would have to provide a valid reason to be added to the disabled list, such as using custom bodies.

[Soala]

Looks like it will causes some problems, but if this get done, I'm ok for it to be implemented on my playerworld

Nice idea here, just need to see how to do it without having lot of ppl complaining because of custom stuffs.

[Inverness]

Perhaps implement something similar to the File Browser I made for Valikorlia.

And I would prefer not having the GST dictate whether or not it is used.

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Inverness

Perhaps implement something similar to the File Browser I made for Valikorlia.

And I would prefer not having the GST dictate whether or not it is used.

I've thought about that, the only problem is it'd have to calculate a list from the server, and not clientside(because like it's been stated, different servers use different graphics). I guess this is possible, and would be really cool but seems excessive. Especially since I figured it'd try to download all those heads as soon as you start browsing.

[Inverness]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

I've thought about that, the only problem is it'd have to calculate a list from the server, and not clientside(because like it's been stated, different servers use different graphics).

On Valikorlia you use an RC command to calculate a list of graphics to be ready to be sent to client when it is requested. would be nice if there was a compression function.

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

I guess this is possible, and would be really cool but seems excessive. Especially since I figured it'd try to download all those heads as soon as you start browsing.

Yes, it does download all the heads en-mass. Not a problem for my connection of course, though I don't know how much it stresses the GServer upload rate.

[DustyPorViva]

I especially don't want to think of the poor 56k'ers

[Inverness]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

I especially don't want to think of the poor 56k'ers

They just won't get to use it then.

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Inverness

They just won't get to use it then.

Which cripples the whole purpose of this. An attempt to unify the controls of Graal so each different server doesn't have different controls for the same exact thing.

I think a simple textbox would suffice. And if needed perhaps a head/sword/shield/body browser as well, but that should be separate.

This shouldn't be hard at all to implement. There are already tons of tailors like this, it would just have to be uploaded to login. All that would need to be added was a method of saving the slot data to be global. This could be done clientside, I suppose(in a file), though I think a serverside saving(like the buddylist) would be more preferred. So you don't lose your looks when you change computers.

[Inverness]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Which cripples the whole purpose of this. An attempt to unify the controls of Graal so each different server doesn't have different controls for the same exact thing.

The File Browser is separate deal. The tailor system will work just fine without it. You misunderstood me.

[Shotoo2]

Then no one would buy the stylesaver we sell on Era.

[DustyPorViva]

Oh, then I agree.

[Frankie]

servers can still have their local tailors. it would just be convenient for new players that don't know how to use them though. it should be very basic.

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Frankie

servers can still have their local tailors. it would just be convenient for new players that don't know how to use them though. it should be very basic.

This is true, there's no reason servers can have their own. Just as long as they don't overwrite or disable the universal one.

[Rufus]

I like the idea of taking a feature that is globally used and consolidating it to a consistent object rather than having different types on every server. There is a lot of features like that though, and with every server having different themes I'm not sure it would look nice, I don't know.

[DustyPorViva]

I think the servers that do sell stuff like that can survive it going global for free. Graal needs more unification and I think this would be one of those good steps towards it.

[WarLord2004]

Well there's already a universal tailor just for head0.png body0.png :-p create a new account and see..

What i seen as of late is Accounts that has special effects like some kid logged in and had a pet bomby and then he had some ghost effect thingy.. Mabey this system or whatever it's call can make your idea come true cause i don't believe the pet bomby was needed to be uploaded to every server..

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by WarLord2004

Well there's already a universal tailor just for head0.png body0.png :-p create a new account and see..

What i seen as of late is Accounts that has special effects like some kid logged in and had a pet bomby and then he had some ghost effect thingy.. Mabey this system or whatever it's call can make your idea come true cause i don't believe the pet bomby was needed to be uploaded to every server..

This kind of stuff is easily uploaded to the Login server(server list), which every player has to log onto.

The only problem I'm wondering is being able to save the slots serverside, to be accessible by all servers.

[xXziroXx]

If everyone looked exactly the same in a multiplayer game, it's obvious that the game would become a failure.

[Inverness]

Originally Posted by xXziroXx

If everyone looked exactly the same in a multiplayer game, it's obvious that the game would become a failure.

As I said, graphics and gameplay are two seperate categories that games are rated on. If you have bad graphics it shouldn't affect the gameplay category.

[DustyPorViva]

If you two keep going back and forth without budging, Darlene might just close this thread because she hates when people do that!

[Vulcan]

If such a system were to be created, servers could easily chose whether or not to allow hats be set with this system by it having the server option operate as follows:

globaltailorsystemmode = 1/2/3

• 0 - disabled
• 1 - enabled, with hats
• 2 - enabled, without hats

...or if the system were to be built the way Ziro suggested....

PHP Code:

this.disabledServers = {"Graal Kingdoms", "Zone" };
this.hatsDisabled = {"Zodiac"};
if (!(servername in this.disabledServers)) {
  // proceed
  if (!(servername in this.hatsDisabled)) {
    //set hats
  }
  //set other stuff
} 


[Rufus]

Lmao this is still going on? Man I stopped when Inverness IM'd me crying about replying, so please guys stop responding! He's wrong, you know he's wrong, I know he's wrong, and apparently nothing that is said is going to open his eyes.