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AS3 Graal NW Level Loader

So I was messing around in flash the other day, and decided it'd be fun to make a class that would load a NW file and display it by drawing it to a BitmapData object.

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import Level;

// the new Tileset(0,0) bit below, is pics1.png in the Library, with Linkages set up to allow script access.
var glevel = new Level(new Tileset(0,0));
glevel.addEventListener(Event.COMPLETEgot_level);

// can also be a relative url
glevel.load("http://gscriptdef.graalstudios.com/mylevel.nw");

function 
got_level(event) {
    
addChild(new Bitmap(glevel.render()));

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Now you need to make an exe editor with layers and stuff, since Stefan has abandoned the level editor.

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Could just make an entire level editor in flash WOULDN'T THAT BE FANTASTIC?
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NOOOOOOO NOT FLASH. PLEASE NOT FLASH.

Make it an executable, please!
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I'd make one in Cocoa
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I don't have anything that compiles into windows executable format anymore! :P
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I could make you a level editor written using Adobe AIR which can output an EXE for Windows if you like...?
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Hello, and welcome to the enrichment center...

But seriously, I'm probably going to do something like a level editor. It would be interesting to see if someone could get this to work _with_ graal. Unfortunately I am unable due to Graal on Mac not loading SWF files
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Flash would be such a waste of time for an editor. It's such a resource hog it isn't even funny. At least do it in java if you're gonna use a multi-platform language.
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Java is even worse -_-
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This isn't that bad, to be honest @ resource hoggery.
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Shush, I've already started coding an NW level editor in Java which will be released eventually.

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Java is far worse.
Speaking as someone who runs an ancient computer, Java is much easier on resources.
Not to mention Graal was originally coded in Java. It ran pretty much like it did today, and ran fast back then... can you ever imagine an equivalent to Graal running on Flash as fast as Graal did?
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To load a graal level into a flash file
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why, not what it does
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Well right now I can say level scrolling is pretty damn smooth. Dusty download the latest flash player I might want you to become my bit.. I mean beta tester
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Flash runs extremely smooth for me, way faster than Java. I think that on an older computer Java tends to run better though.
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Flash runs extremely smooth for me, way faster than Java. I think that on an older computer Java tends to run better though.
Yes, but Flash doesn't have all of the capabilities that Java does. Java tends to be slow if you have a programmer with bad habits, but if you have good habits, as I do, you'll see that Java runs quite fast.
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Java and flash are pretty similar?

Both are compiled into byte code

Both are run in a "virtual machine" of sorts.

In fact I'd say flash is tuned to be smoother and faster espescially when it comes to graphics..

I'd also have to express my annoyance at the fact that, no matter what platform Java is run on, it seems 5 to 10 seconds are added on the beginning of the load time, whist the browser / VM seems to freeze and crash and burn until finally the applet is loaded, or begins to show a "loading" bar.

Whereas there's no slowdowns of that sort as far as I can tell with Flash.
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Yes, but Flash doesn't have all of the capabilities that Java does. Java tends to be slow if you have a programmer with bad habits, but if you have good habits, as I do, you'll see that Java runs quite fast.
I know, I prefer Java anyway, as I actually script in Java.

Java is slow for things like games with lots of graphics. Flash would be slower probably at the more internal things (networking, etc)
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Flash scripts were always at least 10-20 times slower than Java (in my experience), but it's catching up with Flash 9/10. The latest Flash has even some support for pixel shaders
Scripts are easier exchangable now between Flash and Java, although the graphical stuff is of course different.

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Flash scripts were always at least 10-20 times slower than Java (in my experience), but it's catching up with Flash 9/10. The latest Flash has even some support for pixel shaders
Scripts are easier exchangable now between Flash and Java, although the graphical stuff is of course different.
I have enjoyed playing with the pixel shader effects earlier this week infact :O

The new flash 10 stuff is going to be very nice although no support for Intel graphics cards just yet
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Tigarius's scripted level editor will be far superior to anything off-line that I can imagine, once he finishes it.
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Tig's? You mean Zeros?

Or are you actually referring to Tig?

Zero is the one who made the awesome NW editor.

Haven't heard much about anything Tig made.
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Or are you actually referring to Tig?

Zero is the one who made the awesome NW editor.

Haven't heard much about anything Tig made.
No, actually he is referring to my "live level editor." I'm going to write a thread about it after I get a few more features done
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I don't see how anything scripted can be far, or in fact, superior at all, to an executable with an equal amount of skill and effort put into it.
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I don't see how anything scripted can be far, or in fact, superior at all, to an executable with an equal amount of skill and effort put into it.
WYSIWYG.

Exe's you have to deal with uploading and downloading and blah blah blah unless you can somehow work with Stefan to integrate an RC login or something. If that's your angle... well, I think it would be easier to add online editing to a client than a client to an offline editor.
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