Maps.

[Googi]

Tell your trials.

Gold Dot = Entrance/exit to/from the "main floor" of the Underground Dungeon.
Blue Dot = Stairs between the two floors of each kingdom dungeon level.
Orange Dot = Stairs to kingdom island.

[Tracker180]

what about the main dungeon???

[Googi]

Originally Posted by Tracker180

what about the main dungeon???

Do you really fail that much?

[Tracker180]

Originally Posted by Googi

Do you really fail that much?

no but newbs do

[Googi]

Originally Posted by Tracker180

no but newbs do

The problem of trials getting stuck on kingdom islands only occurs because they're able to find their way to the kingdom dungeons and unstick in the first place.

[Ravenblade1979]

Hmm maybe Bjorn should add these to his site.

[Googi]

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

Hmm maybe Bjorn should add these to his site.

Better to just mass the thread URL. Maybe it will get a few people to join the forums.

[cyan3]

Here is a map for the main dungeon taken from Moonites site.

Sage has put it on his vip hosting aswell.
http://sage_scooby.vip.graal.net/map...tes%20site.png

[MajinDragon]

Nice googi, this is very helpful.

Originally Posted by cyan3

Here is a map for the main dungeon taken from Moonites site.

Sage has put it on his vip hosting aswell.
http://sage_scooby.vip.graal.net/map...tes%20site.png

Rawr, take that down

[cyan3]

Originally Posted by MajinDragon

Rawr, take that down

What's wrong with it?

[Sam]

All those maps takes a little bit fun off of the game. If the developer/creater of a game want it's players to know the findings of quests etc. they would put guideposts all around.

[Crow]

Originally Posted by Sam

they would put guideposts all around.

http://graal.logic-games.net

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Crow

http://graal.logic-games.net

Sorry but I don't see explicit and detailed directions. Whatever, people had fun in posting solutions of quests, that's maybe a reason why it's not interesting for dev's to add new quests.

Originally Posted by Gothika

Yeah, the best way to learn is to get lost and learn from your mistakes. You run a random direction and you don't know where your going to end up, really exciting.

I've reconnoitered almost all maps by myself and it was fun!

[Crow]

Originally Posted by Sam

I've reconnoitered almost all maps by myself and it was fun!

Its not fun trying to find your way through large, undetailed dungeons which dont even contain any monsters...

[MajinDragon]

Originally Posted by cyan3

What's wrong with it?

Originally Posted by Sam

All those maps takes a little bit fun off of the game. If the developer/creater of a game want it's players to know the findings of quests etc. they would put guideposts all around.

Answered.

Originally Posted by Gothika

Yeah, the best way to learn is to get lost and learn from your mistakes. You run a random direction and you don't know where your going to end up, really exciting.

Oh how i loved the hours exploring as a newb I learned all the dungeons by maself

Originally Posted by Sam

Sorry but I don't see explicit and detailed directions. Whatever, people had fun in posting solutions of quests, that's maybe a reason why it's not interesting for dev's to add new quests.

... You don't make much needed quest updates because people will one day complete the quests and help others complete them?...

Originally Posted by Googi

Should have let the trials use boats or prevented them from unsticking through the dungeon then?

Best idea in this thread, i mean it.

[cyan3]

Originally Posted by Sam

All those maps takes a little bit fun off of the game. If the developer/creater of a game want it's players to know the findings of quests etc. they would put guideposts all around.

People use the maps for reference, i used the map once to find pirates.gmap and ever since i remembered where it was and never had to use the map again.

But i know what your saying it's more fun to get lost in the dungeon than it is to go the right way all the time just follow your feet and see where you end up.

[Gothika]

Originally Posted by Sam

All those maps takes a little bit fun off of the game. If the developer/creater of a game want it's players to know the findings of quests etc. they would put guideposts all around.

Yeah, the best way to learn is to get lost and learn from your mistakes. You run a random direction and you don't know where your going to end up, really exciting.

[Googi]

Originally Posted by Sam

All those maps takes a little bit fun off of the game. If the developer/creater of a game want it's players to know the findings of quests etc. they would put guideposts all around.

Should have let the trials use boats or prevented them from unsticking through the dungeon then?

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Googi

Should have let the trials use boats or prevented them from unsticking through the dungeon then?

Trials should not have access to another island beside main island and Hotaru.

[cyan3]

Originally Posted by Sam

Trials should not have access to another island beside main island and Hotaru.

I agree, Trials might mess up kingdom events on our islands.

[MajinDragon]

Originally Posted by cyan3

I agree, Trials might mess up kingdom events on our islands.

Not just that, they'd be having too many benefits w/o paying... And eventually, you'll see trial's with houses...

[Googi]

Originally Posted by Sam

Trials should not have access to another island beside main island and Hotaru.

But they do?

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Googi

But they do?

I guess so. Ask Stefan he should know it, because he made the scripts.

Originally Posted by sage_scooby

...mostly from following lords...

Good ol' time when they trotted 'round main.

[Drakeero]

Well, whichever way this falls out, congratulations to you Googi for a job well done.

(and if its that much of a problem, why not block trials from entering kingdom dungeons from the main dungeon same way you block them from getting on ships? That way the whole problem is moot.)

[Ravenblade1979]

You can warp yourself around though sam. I think this was mostly put up for trials. Because they don't know this game that well.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

You can warp yourself around though Sam...

I wasn't born as staff on GK