Inactivity

[Sam]

Due to the inactivity of the Forest leadership, we need some informations about the kingdom life from the current members. Post here your problems and suggestions.

[GryffonDurime]

Lance for absolute monarch.

[Lance]

Originally Posted by GryffonDurime

Lance for absolute monarch.

No thanks.

[GryffonDurime]

Originally Posted by Lance

No thanks.

Well then how about considering the person who, in retrospect, I should have given Forest to after my descent from the throne? I always felt that choosing the pity route was an ill decision.

[Waltz5]

Originally Posted by GryffonDurime

Well then how about considering the person who, in retrospect, I should have given Forest to after my descent from the throne? I always felt that choosing the pity route was an ill decision.

Why whoever are you speaking of?

Forest is the kingdom I still love and feel I belong to... however the current leadership forced me to take an extreme action of leaving the kingdom. Ugh, it's disgusting.

Originally Posted by StrykerTFFD

As for what's been going on, I've seen some of Draxx's work. The items he's making, his ideas for further improvements, so honestly, just wait.

I'm sorry but I'm tired of hearing "I've seen Draxx's new items he's working on." Well I've been hearing that for months now, and items/levels don't take months to implement.

Originally Posted by Jaquet

None of you are in Forest so you don't really know what exactly is going on.

It's not that hard to see what's going on for any kingdom really. There's no leadership in Forest.

[Damix2]

Originally Posted by Waltz5

Why whoever are you speaking of?

Forest is the kingdom I still love and feel I belong to... however the current leadership forced me to take an extreme action of leaving the kingdom. Ugh, it's disgusting.

Hey!

I had some part in that too =D

[Myukoi]

I just left Forest and joined Zormite yesterday. It was very boring.

[xAndrewx]

I vote Dayaa!

[Myukoi]

Originally Posted by xAndrewx

I vote Dayaa!

You have a house that's being built in Zormite! We're going to be neighbors.

[GryffonDurime]

Originally Posted by xAndrewx

I vote Dayaa!

Someone who has admitted a lack of skill at roleplaying, was given powers for no reason beyond friendship with the then-monarch, and whose first act with said powers was to abuse them?

...No offense to Dayaa, who is a cool person, but I think we've all seen how well "cool" non-RPers do at leading kingdoms (case in point: Sagesuns)

[xAndrewx]

I have 4, on Zormite.

[xAndrewx]

Wait?
Dayaa abused? when?
Dayaa doesn't RP on tag? when?

[OasaTor_PK]

Oasa for forlolst leader.

[StrykerTFFD]

*ahem*
How can you bring up an inactivity thread during the holidays?

Anyways, Draxx is around, just told me the other day he had internet troubles, so give him some time. I'm sure with those internet troubles and, oh I don't know, the fact it's CHRISTMAS BREAK he has a life?

As for what's been going on, I've seen some of Draxx's work. The items he's making, his ideas for further improvements, so honestly, just wait.

[GryffonDurime]

Originally Posted by StrykerTFFD

*ahem*
How can you bring up an inactivity thread during the holidays?

Anyways, Draxx is around, just told me the other day he had internet troubles, so give him some time. I'm sure with those internet troubles and, oh I don't know, the fact it's CHRISTMAS BREAK he has a life?

As for what's been going on, I've seen some of Draxx's work. The items he's making, his ideas for further improvements, so honestly, just wait.

Methinkith they're extrapolating from more than just the past week.

Additionally, items and vague "improvements" mean little over active roleplaying and advancement of story, not to mention the fact that his character alone defied Graalian Canon.

[StrykerTFFD]

Originally Posted by GryffonDurime

Additionally, items and vague "improvements" mean little over active roleplaying and advancement of story, not to mention the fact that his character alone defied Graalian Canon.

Well, this is true, however I'm pretty sure if Draxx cares enough to spend his free time making new things for the Kingdom, he'd care to do some sort of RP when he returns. It's just at this moment it's...well Christmas break and he's had internet troubles, so he can't be expected to be on. I'll talk to him if he logs on AIM, though.

[Jaquet]

::Current forest member -.-::

I am one of the few active members of Forest. I am the prince and ONLY active member of royalty -.-..

Draxx and Lasaria have not been on in ages. I dont know when or if they are coming back. Im on everyday except the past few days because of Christmas. Ive been doing my best, all by myself to bring forest back to life, ive done events, I've done lots of things but no one pays attention to forest anymore because we dont have the leaders anymore.

Ive seen Dayaa on maybe once or twice a week but thats it. Grirahan is on tag everyday, and so is John. There are another two members who I see on tag once in a while.

Thats the story of Forest. None of you are in Forest so you don't really know what exactly is going on. This is everything.

[GryffonDurime]

I don't need to be in a trainwreck to see the horror of the situation.

I care about Forest. I regret having given it to Lasaria, and by proxy, Draxx. They've done nothing but ruin a decent kingom.

[StrykerTFFD]

Originally Posted by Jaquet

Thats the story of Forest. None of you are in Forest so you don't really know what exactly is going on. This is everything.

Is that any way to talk to the Highjudge of Forest?

And yeah, I've been in Forest since Chris was leader. Things were fun, although kind of inactive, but still Chris was around to have fun. I have a deep care for Forest and Chris is a good friend of mine so I want to keep things alive, so yeah.

[Jaquet]

Royal Adviser isn't royalty. They advise the royalty. Hence the name: Royal Adviser.

[ReBorn_Spirit]

I was getting to the point of how long I've been in Forest, doing work for your highness. And to be blunt, I can't do my job when they keep removing certain key rights. My job isn't just advising the royal family, but also recruiting and training.

As for your lack or being able to read what I said, thats your problem. You seem to skip over some of the details, patience is key to ruling a large group.
Thats some advice I have for you.

Oh and my tag, well I would wear it more, if I weren't so busy in the Tavern. It may not seem so busy, but I tend to wait a bit before I leave it, so peopel can actually order food. And when I do get on Forest tag, I'm still asked if I can get someone food or hire someone for the tavern.

[xRuffRydax]

I've seen Dayaa RP, and i don't understand how you guys can go off and say "Oh she doesn't RP at all.." especially if your not on to see it. Throughout my time on GK, i've seen leaders of kingdoms come and go.. Draxx did a good job so far, but since he's gone inactive the Forest activity slowly went downhill. The best candidates i can think of for new leaders are Jaquet or Dayaa - Seeing as they are always on, they RP, and care for the kingdom. No offense Waltz5, but i don't think you and Forest would work out, and thats just my opinion. Sam, i do hope you make the right desicion..

[Zero Hour]

The amusing thing about this is that the leader of Forest hasn't posted in here. I would have to say that someone FROM WITHIN FOREST (Damix :P) should be promoted to leader.

Although I think Dayaa has done nothing but prove herself unfit for candidacy with her short temper, and rash responses.

[ReBorn_Spirit]

There IS no leader, the only one that is in any form of control when Lasaria or Draxx is not online was left to me, their one advisor. Lasaria has no gold time left. Draxx doesnt have a working comptuer to return to graal.

[Damix2]

Originally Posted by Zero Hour

The amusing thing about this is that the leader of Forest hasn't posted in here. I would have to say that someone FROM WITHIN FOREST (Damix :P) should be promoted to leader

Understood, but as you have just came to see, you took over a kingdom that had no fit leader in it.

Forest is in better shape then BO was, but I still think Kyden would be the best choice for the kingdom right now. It'd be a shame to lose him from Samurai, but I'd understand it was for the good of the game.

[Zero Hour]

Originally Posted by Damix2

It'd be a shame to lose him from Samurai, but I'd understand it was for the good of the game.

And to gain a faithful satellite nation?

Don't take that poorly, I've talked to him a few times - and he's very reasonible. If someone from Forest isn't fit, take them from Dustari - they're inactive and have a fair ammount of decent people, if I'm not wrong.

[ReBorn_Spirit]

You know, it sounds like you want Kyden to be leader, because he agrees with your goals. So you can truely conquer all of GK, just like others have done in the past.

Maybe I am wrong about this, but whomever does get to be leader best be a good one. I want to see Forest live again.

I swear by my pointy little ears that I will see it live again...

-_-

[Damix2]

Originally Posted by ReBorn_Spirit

You know, it sounds like you want Kyden to be leader, because he agrees with your goals. So you can truely conquer all of GK, just like others have done in the past.

Maybe I am wrong about this, but whomever does get to be leader best be a good one. I want to see Forest live again.

I swear by my pointy little ears that I will see it live again...

-_-

I want to conquer GK... right, someones a bit paranoid.


@ ZH: I'm talking from my personal experiences you see. I see Kyden as the most fit leader of a kingdom that isn't already a leader (ego aside )

There are a few from Dustari I am sure, just like I have 2 more very competent leaders in Samurai that could be given the kingdom when I decide to step down. Shawn comes to mind, but if I am not mistaken he does not wish to lead.

[StrykerTFFD]

Originally Posted by Damix2

Forest is in better shape then BO was, but I still think Kyden would be the best choice for the kingdom right now. It'd be a shame to lose him from Samurai, but I'd understand it was for the good of the game.

Well, your opinion doesn't matter all that much. It's a Forest issue, one Forest can handle. If we want Kyden as leader, it'll happen. If we want Dayaa as leader, it'll happen.

Everyone seems to be missing the fact that this situation differs a lot from BO's. Forest has members that can speak for themselves, make choices for the kingdom. BO didn't really have...members...at all?

Point taken, this is a public forum. Cheers to you. But that's as far as your opinion really goes. The forum.

Not being mean, it's just the reality of it all.

[Zero Hour]

Originally Posted by StrykerTFFD

Everyone seems to be missing the fact that this situation differs a lot from BO's. Forest has members that can speak for themselves, make choices for the kingdom. BO didn't really have...members...at all?

How many, 5? The important thing is... "How diligent will their final decision be, and how capable are they of producing it?"

[StrykerTFFD]

Originally Posted by Zero Hour

How many, 5? The important thing is... "How diligent will their final decision be, and how capable are they of producing it?"

It's not a matter of how many people are around, rather than the most important being around.

As it stands, we have Jaquet(Prince), Dayaa(Royal Advisor), and myself(Highjudge).

Now if these three positions can't make a decision on what happens, what is the point of our rank structure?

[ReBorn_Spirit]

Thank you (StrykerTFFD), atleast someone see's the truth of what Forest goes through now.

[GryffonDurime]

If my word as the most immediate ancestral father of Forest means anything, allow me to set the record straight:

When I was given Forest, Chris overlooked Lasaria. Now, why would Chris choose a non-elven character to rule a society where Elves had a legal and exclusionary monopoly on the ruling class? Why would he choose someone new over the queen who had ruled Forest with him? Chris saw what a poor choice of leader Lasaria was, in truth he had only gotten to a royal position because he was Chris' friend. I should have seen this, I should have known after her first words to me after my coronation were "Am I going to lose my power?"

We forget. Life goes on, and we get jaded, and we forget. When my time came to step down, I had already faced two attempted coups, one from Becan and another from Etien. I was tired, and I had two choices set before for my successor: I could follow Chris' path and choose someone who I thought would be a truly excellent leader, or I could choose Lasaria out of sympathy for the fact that she had already been passed over once. We all know the choice I made, and I have regretted it since. If I had to do it all over again, I would have followed my instincts and chosen Kyden.

Kyden quickly ascended the ranks of the Elven magi. When there was still leadership and activity in the Forest (pre-Lasaria), he was exceptionally active. Draxx may make some simple icons (only took him months to do so), Kyden helped to further the storyline I had begun to set in motion surronding the Autumn Elves and the Tree of Life. He even made a rather nice Autumn Elf head, and he made it in less than two days, thank you very much. He was dedicated to preserving a proper roleplaying atmosphere with rich and interesting cultures.

I chose so very poorly. Now, if the choice is set before Forest, I see the same two diverging paths. Do not choose as I did, or you will only doom the Kingdom.

[ReBorn_Spirit]

If you were serious about wanting an Elf to remain leader, I am an elf. And I know a bit of the Elvish language, though I am no High Elf. Well Lasaria seemed a bit odd for Forest, and Draxx was a dark elf. But atleast Draxx was trying to get things done, until he too vanished. I'd like to note that I wouldn't mind helping the next leader out to restore Forest. I know theres talk of me becoming the leader, but I know that might not be so true. Either way I am ready to get Forest back on track.

[Morinya]

I've been quite inactive past months but came back recently to GK and saw the current situation Forest is in. Lasaria has run out of gold, Draxx is inactive and those who have rights can't do their job properly because Lasaria never fixed certain ranks. (Like I asked her to do months ago)
It's a fact Forest needs a new leader or temporary leader, depending on if Lasaria or Draxx will return soon.

The new leader should be chosen from within the kingdom, that leaves us with 2 candidates: Sae or Dayaa. I see Sae log on every hour for five minutes, stand in trade, do nothing, log off and next hour show up again for another five minutes.
I don't see Dayaa very often, the primary reason for this is because we live in different timezonesbut but I still see her 2-3 times a week When I see her she's always busy helping Forest members or non-members and if she doesn't have to help anyone she's in the pub were she RP's most of the time.
You all complain Dayaa isn't the perfect RPer well have you ever seen Sae RP??? I don't think so.
I prefer to have a leader who atleast tries to RP than to have one that hasn't even tried it yet.

How do you expect that Dayaa reacts on all these posts? She has done nothing but trying to help the kingdom and all you do is bash on her, I'm pretty sure everyone would react the same as she does if they were in the same situation.

(I don't wish to insult Sae with this post, I just don't think he's fit as leader of a kingdom.)

[Zero Hour]

Originally Posted by Morinya

How do you expect that Dayaa reacts on all these posts? She has done nothing but trying to help the kingdom and all you do is bash on her, I'm pretty sure everyone would react the same as she does if they were in the same situation.

Leaders are expected to behave well, even under stress !
Also, I do others things than bash

[GryffonDurime]

Originally Posted by Morinya

I've been quite inactive past months but came back recently to GK and saw the current situation Forest is in. Lasaria has run out of gold, Draxx is inactive and those who have rights can't do their job properly because Lasaria never fixed certain ranks. (Like I asked her to do months ago)
It's a fact Forest needs a new leader or temporary leader, depending on if Lasaria or Draxx will return soon.

The new leader should be chosen from within the kingdom, that leaves us with 2 candidates: Sae or Dayaa. I see Sae log on every hour for five minutes, stand in trade, do nothing, log off and next hour show up again for another five minutes.
I don't see Dayaa very often, the primary reason for this is because we live in different timezonesbut but I still see her 2-3 times a week When I see her she's always busy helping Forest members or non-members and if she doesn't have to help anyone she's in the pub were she RP's most of the time.
You all complain Dayaa isn't the perfect RPer well have you ever seen Sae RP??? I don't think so.
I prefer to have a leader who atleast tries to RP than to have one that hasn't even tried it yet.

How do you expect that Dayaa reacts on all these posts? She has done nothing but trying to help the kingdom and all you do is bash on her, I'm pretty sure everyone would react the same as she does if they were in the same situation.

(I don't wish to insult Sae with this post, I just don't think he's fit as leader of a kingdom.)

Your logic fails to account for outside circumstances. In this case, the circumstances are that better choices are outside Forest. It is not written in stone that a new leader must come from the immediate group in the kingdom. I was brought into Forest to be it's king, when I had been a Dustarian for AGES. Why is Kyden not in Forest? Because he pointed out, long ago, what we're all in agreement about now: that Lasaria is not an effective leader.

Originally Posted by Dayaa

If you were serious about wanting an Elf to remain leader, I am an elf. And I know a bit of the Elvish language, though I am no High Elf. Well Lasaria seemed a bit odd for Forest, and Draxx was a dark elf. But atleast Draxx was trying to get things done, until he too vanished. I'd like to note that I wouldn't mind helping the next leader out to restore Forest. I know theres talk of me becoming the leader, but I know that might not be so true. Either way I am ready to get Forest back on track.

When did I say I wanted an elven successor? Why would I place any stock in such a matter when my character was not an elf? And, for the record, in Graal the Elven language is not written down and so you can not know our iteration of it (you are confusing it with Tolkein, most likely, which is another canon entirely) and there should be no High Elves, considering that when the Tree of Life began to wither during my rule I did a big event where they became the Autumn Elves ><.

[Morinya]

Originally Posted by GryffonDurime

Your logic fails to account for outside circumstances. In this case, the circumstances are that better choices are outside Forest. It is not written in stone that a new leader must come from the immediate group in the kingdom. I was brought into Forest to be it's king, when I had been a Dustarian for AGES. Why is Kyden not in Forest? Because he pointed out, long ago, what we're all in agreement about now: that Lasaria is not an effective leader.

If you select a new leader from outside the kingdom there are many people who could be chosen.
I personally think it's better to first select someone from inside the kingdom and see what he/she can do, if the new leader fails I would pick a non-member as leader. Maybe you're right that there are better people outside Forest but the people in Forest atleast did something for the kingdom past months and they deserve a chance to proof they can handle the kingdom.

I'm pretty sure Kyden could be a good leader but like I said before I think the candidates inside Forest should have more chance than him in becoming leader.

As for StrykerTFFD, why can't I be leader? I'm the Archknight and active, haven't had problems with anyone else either, only thing I've done is helping out members and being in the HH to get maps for them. And there is also Mikuz, he's Admiral and he's been doing a good job for Forest too or maybe Grirahan he was the Grand Druid. You're pretty right we all deserve a chance isn't it? Not just you but every kingdom member should have a chance on becoming leader. Let's see every member gets a vote, everyone will probably vote for himself so we still wouldn't have a leader.

[StrykerTFFD]

Originally Posted by Morinya

As for StrykerTFFD, why can't I be leader? I'm the Archknight and active, haven't had problems with anyone else either, only thing I've done is helping out members and being in the HH to get maps for them. And there is also Mikuz, he's Admiral and he's been doing a good job for Forest too or maybe Grirahan he was the Grand Druid. You're pretty right we all deserve a chance isn't it? Not just you but every kingdom member should have a chance on becoming leader. Let's see every member gets a vote, everyone will probably vote for himself so we still wouldn't have a leader.

Sadly you have missed the point of my post, even though it was stated directly at the bottom.

The point was that you stated two worthy candidates for throne. I pointed out that there are more than two worthy candidates. Is all of Forest eligible? Of course not, that'd be silly.

As for Argo as King, sure, only if boobies are promised, yes?

Originally Posted by Splke

I give no boobs. I give only promises of corrupt overpowered items and laundering of USD sells.

Lolz.

You have my vote!

[StrykerTFFD]

Originally Posted by Morinya

The new leader should be chosen from within the kingdom, that leaves us with 2 candidates: Sae or Dayaa.

Um, why couldn't I be a candidate? Been Highjudge since Chris was leader. Haven't had trouble with others. I DO play(just really early to steal from Lords )

Why COULDN'T Kyden be leader? When the whole revolution against Lasaria begun it was Kyden and myself(Although a lot of people fail to mention me as I was the Highjudge watching over it all) heading things off. The two choices at the time were Kyden and myself for taking over. He's worthy of it as well.

The choice on leader should be made within the Kingdom, but as for who becomes leader? Who knows.

Note:Purpose of this post was show that they are not the only two candidates.