Bel'la O' - Scammers United?

xAndrewx · #1 10-03-2005, 08:57 AM

I have accumulated a list, of all the thiefs inside of Bel'la O'.
As you're all aware, I don't like thiefs.
I can live with the killing, but not the thiefing.

EndlessX
OasaTorPK
xGoLink

I'm not too sure about Oasa, but when he was in Samurai, he stole some items during an event, I class that as being a thievery event.
Will any actions be taking? Or will we be looking at a new revolutionized kingdom full of thiefs?

Sam · #2 10-03-2005, 01:16 PM

It seems to be the the kingdom of outlaws.

AlaricoMontario · #3 10-03-2005, 02:01 PM

Kingdom? Not for long......

Damix2 · #4 10-03-2005, 03:14 PM

Debalgio doesn't make the list?

LilNiglet · #5 10-03-2005, 03:25 PM

It's like Karakaze minus the awesome.

Damix2 · #6 10-03-2005, 03:26 PM

Very true, and at least we tried to hide it...sometimes.

xAndrewx · #7 10-03-2005, 03:41 PM

Debalgio didn't scam, he traded fairly.
Item for item = fair. That's exactly what Debalgio and Jalaxe did.

StrykerTFFD · #8 10-03-2005, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx

Item for item = fair. That's exactly what Debalgio and Jalexia did.

Actually, going by the definition of 'Scam', If item one's value is less than item two's value or vice versa, then it is considered a scam if one or both parties are trick and/or deceived into trading.

Judging from the outrage of a lot of people, this is what happened.

xAndrewx · #9 10-03-2005, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by StrykerTFFD

Actually, going by the definition of 'Scam', If item one's value is less than item two's value, then it is considered a scam if one or both parties are trick and/or deceived into trading.

Judging from the outrage of a lot of people, this is what happened.

That's true, but why click the green flag if you didn't think it was a fair trade?
[Not you, but Jalaxe]

Googi · #10 10-03-2005, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx

Item for item = fair. That's exactly what Debalgio and Jalaxe did.

Item for item = fair unless of course there is lying involved. Etien told Jalexia he was just borrowing the items, which was a blatant lie. That makes it scamming.

xAndrewx · #11 10-03-2005, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Googi

Item for item = fair unless of course there is lying involved. Etien told Jalexia he was just borrowing the items, which was a blatant lie. That makes it scamming.

Why would she accept it, for the 2 rots? lol.

Sam · #12 10-03-2005, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx

Why would she accept it, for the 2 rots? lol.

Hey, we all know that she isn't dumb and accept this for her items as a trade for all time. We discuss that a lot of time so stop it here and let's go back to the topic.

XGoLink · #13 10-03-2005, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Schlurfy

Hey, we all know that she isn't dumb

Are you sure, she did join CP!

xAndrewx · #14 10-03-2005, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Schlurfy

Hey, we all know that she isn't dumb and accept this for her items as a trade for all time. We discuss that a lot of time so stop it here and let's go back to the topic.

That's true, it's for another conversation.
My mistake

Googi · #15 10-03-2005, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx

Why would she accept it, for the 2 rots? lol.

Jalexia thought she was lending her items (which included her two RoWs) to Etien. She wanted to borrow two RoTs in order to compensate for the speed loss she would have while she didn't have the RoWs.

Luigi1 · #16 10-05-2005, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx

Debalgio didn't scam, he traded fairly.
Item for item = fair. That's exactly what Debalgio and Jalaxe did.

And what if I happened to be someone you knew since you started Graal and trusted extremely well and I did the same thing to you?

Wind_Master · #17 10-05-2005, 05:43 AM

If the 2 items are equal in value its a trade. If 1 item is worth less than another item and the 2 trade. Well than you just scammed them....

Lets say a "specially abled kid" was playing GK lets say. And he wanted to trade you like a awesome sword for a crappy armour. If you accepted it you'd be a duschbag and a scammer in my eyes.

OasaTor_PK · #18 10-03-2005, 03:52 PM

Idiot, when was the last time I scammed something WORTH scamming, im pretty sure taking food from the pub isnt the end of the world. The last item I scammed was a forest shield, and that was in January, and I felt bad and gave the person a sun shield about 2 weeks later. In Samurai, I put those items back retard, I can insure you, I didnt return and take the items.

xAndrewx · #19 10-03-2005, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by OasaTor_PK

Idiot, when was the last time I scammed something WORTH scamming, im pretty sure taking food from the pub isnt the end of the world. The last item I scammed was a forest shield, and that was in January, and I felt bad and gave the person a sun shield about 2 weeks later. In Samurai, I put those items back retard, I can insure you, I didnt return and take the items.

That post pretty much classified you as a scammer.

SayianOozaru · #20 10-03-2005, 04:01 PM

lol, no, he was a sammer, but not anymore

XGoLink · #21 10-03-2005, 04:05 PM

I havent scammed for over 6months

xAndrewx · #22 10-03-2005, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by XGoLink

I havent scammed for over 6months

So, that means you're not a scammer?

Crono · #23 10-03-2005, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by XGoLink

I havent scammed for over 6months

I havent murdered anybody in over 6months. That MUST mean im no longer a murderer!

Splke · #24 10-03-2005, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerami

I havent murdered anybody in over 6months. That MUST mean im no longer a murderer!

Hi. My names Andrew.. "Hello Andrew." I've been clean for uh.. 6 months now.. and I have to say.. I feel like a new man. I really think this has all helped me, and that all of you have helped me do thi-- ooh shiney things.

Once a scammer, always a scammer. Believe me, I'm one. ^_^

Butz · #25 10-03-2005, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Splke

Hi. My names Andrew.. "Hello Andrew." I've been clean for uh.. 6 months now.. and I have to say.. I feel like a new man. I really think this has all helped me, and that all of you have helped me do thi-- ooh shiney things.

Once a scammer, always a scammer. Believe me, I'm one. ^_^

Well, you see, the problem is, you're not thinking along the lines of Andruvian Logic.

The Aristotelian logic draws its conclusion from examination of the predicates, in a flowing logical manner, such that if A implies B, and B implies C, then A therefore implies C.

However, if we examine the same such argument under the school of Andruvian Logic, we can see that if A implies B, and B implies C, then A therefore implies Peanut Butter Sandwiches.
However, this is only the case on Tuesdays. On all other days, A implies Threeve.

Scholars have wracked their brains for months trying to decode the workings of Andruvian logic, only to come to the same conclusion every time: Saturday Morning Cartoons were better in the 80's.

napo_p2p · #26 10-07-2005, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Splke

Once a scammer, always a scammer. Believe me, I'm one. ^_^

People can change.

Exhibit A: Michael Jackson
Exhibit B: Not needed

xAndrewx · #27 10-07-2005, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by napo_p2p

People can change.

Exhibit A: Michael Jackson
Exhibit B: Not needed

What did MJ do wrong?

Luigi1 · #28 10-07-2005, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by napo_p2p

People can change.

Exhibit A: Michael Jackson

That's an interpretation that doesn't apply to this kind of situation

XGoLink · #29 10-03-2005, 04:07 PM

I got scammed more as I scammed

xAndrewx · #30 10-03-2005, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by XGoLink

I got scammed more as I scammed

What're the points to your posts?
You and Oasa have just admitted to scamming, I wouldn't be proud of that if I were you.

OasaTor_PK · #31 10-03-2005, 05:01 PM

It got me rich didnt it?
Most of you people made friends, and got items gaven to you, I made friends with the people no one liked and what? Got a RoT and was left to fend for my self. I then got a really good trade, got an arcane+12, and traded it for a fid. Scamming works well, and I scammed people who I didnt like, and took personal shots at me, IE: Kinkino.

XGoLink · #32 10-03-2005, 09:52 PM

Graal isnt Real Life

SayianOozaru · #33 10-04-2005, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Googi

Gamble? What the hell? Etien told her he was just borrowing the items. How is that any different from someone lying and saying "I can't use the trade tables because they lag me." Or when EndlessX lied about wanting to trade with Sayian?

Ya, i was pretty heated when that happened

but i got the 55 dias back

Luigi1 · #34 10-05-2005, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx

Or will we be looking at a new revolutionized kingdom full of thiefs?

It's been that way since Kefkin and Debaglio got the kingdom.
And apparently you don't like thieves only if they're not your boyfriends. Even before Etien scammed (scammed, not "traded", you god damn idiot) Jal, they were both highly dishonest in business and took advantage of everybody, including their "friends". Lied about alchemy recipes (added extra ingredients to the recipe lists they'd PM you so they could steal the extras for themselves), abused mine carts to block off shops, etc.

Wind_Master · #35 10-05-2005, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Luigi1

It's been that way since Kefkin and Debaglio got the kingdom.
And apparently you don't like thieves only if they're not your boyfriends. Even before Etien scammed (scammed, not "traded", you god damn idiot) Jal, they were both highly dishonest in business and took advantage of everybody, including their "friends". Lied about alchemy recipes (added extra ingredients to the recipe lists they'd PM you so they could steal the extras for themselves), abused mine carts to block off shops, etc.

Comon. No flaming XD.

xAndrewx · #36 10-05-2005, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Luigi1

It's been that way since Kefkin and Debaglio got the kingdom.
And apparently you don't like thieves only if they're not your boyfriends. Even before Etien scammed (scammed, not "traded", you god damn idiot) Jal, they were both highly dishonest in business and took advantage of everybody, including their "friends". Lied about alchemy recipes (added extra ingredients to the recipe lists they'd PM you so they could steal the extras for themselves), abused mine carts to block off shops, etc.

Wow, you're quite the cool playa'.
I can't say Etien scammed, and do you read anything?
This is about Bel'la O', if you want to talk about scamming with Jal', make a god damn thread.

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx

That's true, it's for another conversation.
My mistake

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx

And this is saved for another thread, create one to talk about it if you want.

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx

Something is going on with the whole story, but it shouldn't be discussed here.

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Originally Posted by Wind_Master

Comon. No flaming XD.

I tend to ignore his posts, he doesn't do anything but flame.

Luigi1 · #37 10-06-2005, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx

Wow, you're quite the cool playa'.
I can't say Etien scammed, and do you read anything?
This is about Bel'la O', if you want to talk about scamming with Jal', make a god damn thread.

I tend to ignore his posts, he doesn't do anything but flame.

Or you could actually read my entire post rather than just look at one statement that is in parentheses.

xAndrewx · #38 10-06-2005, 08:11 AM

I think you should re-read the post. All you did is bash other people, you're not Mr.Perfect.
Should I point out all of the insults?

Wind_Master · #39 10-07-2005, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx

I think you should re-read the post. All you did is bash other people, you're not Mr.Perfect.
Should I point out all of the insults?

He may not be Mr.Perfect but im Mr.Lonely

Googi · #40 10-07-2005, 08:33 PM

You can change so that you're not a scammer anymore, but you can't scam everything you want and then just say "Well I'm not scamming anymore so I'm not a scammer anymore." You have to give the stuff you scammed back.