People learning to script

Skyld · #1 03-16-2003, 01:00 PM

OK so I noticed that lots of people come on the forums for scripting help. We can all understand that. But things like "how can i learn to script when i dont know what im doing" is a bit pointless? Gscript is a logical language.
if (something happens) {
then do this;
}
or
for (this,that,other) {
do the other until that or whatever isnt true;
}
All the commands are pretty simple/self-explanitory.

Am I the only one who thinks that?

Neoreno · #2 03-16-2003, 01:26 PM

Well, it's not so much that they don't know the syntax, I just don't think they have a good grasp with mathematics.

tlf288 · #3 03-16-2003, 05:36 PM

Are you are an idiot who has nothing better to do than "bash" on the people who want to learn?

I can tell you are not a good scripter becasue to be a good scripter you have to be very intelligent and I can tell you probally just learned some basics and decided to come here and try to act like you might know somethng.

So change your attitude or **** off!

Devil · #4 03-16-2003, 05:41 PM

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Originally posted by tlf288
Are you are an idiot who has nothing better to do than "bash" on the people who want to learn?

I can tell you are not a good scripter becasue to be a good scripter you have to be very intelligent and I can tell you probally just learned some basics and decided to come here and try to act like you might know somethng.

So change your attitude or **** off!

Nicely put, he has no skills anyway, when he worked on Providence, he did nothing brilliant.

PrinceDark · #5 03-16-2003, 11:26 PM

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All the commands are pretty simple/self-explanitory.

wth. lol
Not all the commands are self explanatory. You have to read up on a lot of them and then test them out to see what you can or can't do with them.

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Am I the only one who thinks that?

Maybe.

The thing I noticed most people have a hard time doing when learning how to script is reading. Most people say they don't want to read all the stuff on Ace2896's Newbie Scripter's Bible or on the npcprogramming.doc, or they say they don't understand it.

osrs · #6 03-17-2003, 04:22 AM

I agree to Trevor.

Chicken_l33t · #7 03-17-2003, 05:38 AM

Quote:

Are you are an idiot who has nothing better to do than "bash" on the people who want to learn?

I can tell you are not a good scripter becasue to be a good scripter you have to be very intelligent and I can tell you probally just learned some basics and decided to come here and try to act like you might know somethng.

So change your attitude or **** off!

I don't beleive he was bashing people more or less stating that GScript is rather easy, and tlf288 dont you think you're over reacting?, he didnt say nothing to bash anyone..

You're the one who's bashing people, and I don't nessecarily agree with you saying: "I can tell you are not a good scripter becasue to be a good scripter you have to be very intelligent",
if you can script something that works & has a very little amount of bugs on It with the simplest of commands then that's fine you don't have to have something super long for it to be a good script.

maybe the smarter person is the one who done less coding then something like:

if (playerenters){
setstring text,WOW;
message #s(text);
}

then just doing something like if (playerenters){
message WOW;
}

I personally wouldn't do that but hey just an example that you dont have to be briliant to script.

Torankusu · #8 03-17-2003, 05:58 AM

calm down...

Geez. He was trying to put the general format for GScript in a basic and more interpretive(sp?) form. He was actually trying to help.

PastAustin · #9 03-17-2003, 08:48 AM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu

You have to be brilliant to make brilliant scripts.

*points at Kaimetsu* Brilliant.

Long time no see.

Its true that GScript is logical but there are many reasons people don't learn it and have a hard time, and its not your's or anyone's place to criticize that. I can't believe that you would start a thread about this. GScript isn't for everyone and its good that you get it, however you don't need to get ****y. If you are so good at scripting, script and leave people alone.

Devil · #10 03-17-2003, 11:49 AM

He wasn't helping in any way, If I didn't know how to script (Well I don't anymore, I haven't touched an npc in 2 years almost) what he just posted would in no way help me, or the newbie.

azuretek23 · #11 03-17-2003, 11:26 PM

I know the basics but thats because I program in other languages, syntax is self explanitory but commands take some time reading and seeing them in an example

there should be a php.net type database of the commands where people can post examples and stuff on how it is to be used

tlf288 · #12 03-18-2003, 01:43 AM

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Originally posted by azuretek23

there should be a php.net type database of the commands where people can post examples and stuff on how it is to be used

Duh duh duh http://graalforge.com .

draygin · #13 04-02-2003, 09:18 PM

The problem with people asking for help isnt because they lack mathematics or intelligence. It's the small things that mess them up. Such as the Correct place to put symbols such as commas etc.. Sure you can tell people to read the commands liek omg its so EZ! Yes commands are easy to figure out but not necessarly the order to put the commands in or where to put the symbols/puncuation etc.. that is what gets most people who are just starting off. Most times when I'm working on a script and its not working I show it to my friend after he stops laughing at the simplness of my scripts (yea he's a good friend.

) Most times he tells me its because I forgot a comma or something of that nature. Most guides I see dont get that basic though. They say what a command is and how to use it. But they dont explain the symbols such as commas and where they should be used or why etc.. If I'd had that when I first tinkered it would have been alot easier to learn. Even now I'm sure I'm not using things to its fullest potential. As my friend tells me my scripts are innefficient but I dont care about that just yet, I'm just happy when they work.

HoudiniMan · #14 04-03-2003, 10:03 AM

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Originally posted by draygin
The problem with people asking for help isnt because they lack mathematics or intelligence. It's the small things that mess them up. Such as the Correct place to put symbols such as commas etc.. Sure you can tell people to read the commands liek omg its so EZ! Yes commands are easy to figure out but not necessarly the order to put the commands in or where to put the symbols/puncuation etc.. that is what gets most people who are just starting off. Most times when I'm working on a script and its not working I show it to my friend after he stops laughing at the simplness of my scripts (yea he's a good friend. ) Most times he tells me its because I forgot a comma or something of that nature. Most guides I see dont get that basic though. They say what a command is and how to use it. But they dont explain the symbols such as commas and where they should be used or why etc.. If I'd had that when I first tinkered it would have been alot easier to learn. Even now I'm sure I'm not using things to its fullest potential. As my friend tells me my scripts are innefficient but I dont care about that just yet, I'm just happy when they work.

Please don't bring back such old threads

Kinatt · #15 04-03-2003, 06:33 PM

I think you just have to read the commands play with it .. and once you understand what everything does.. it is then based on experience, and how you think in the end. I don't think you have to be necessarily brilliant.. to make brilliant scripts.. I think someone that just knows it really well and has had alot of experience with it and is above average intelligence (since average intelligence is pretty stupid atleast graal players are) can probably do it the best. Kai on the otherhand has been scripting for quite a long time and with that experience he knows how to use the commands in almost all situations. So imo which is a very uneducated one let me tell you, since I can't script worth crap (never took the time to read it) I think its just on experience.

draygin · #16 04-03-2003, 10:03 PM

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Originally posted by HoudiniMan

Please don't bring back such old threads

It wasnt that old only a couple of weeks.

to Kinatt: I never had a problem with commands and knowning what they did. I always had a problem with figuring out where the comma's and what not went. Lucky for me I have a friend who gave me a bunch of scripts to look at and I eventually figured it out. I dont think I would have with out them.

Kinatt · #17 04-04-2003, 07:23 AM

Not in everything.. I mean you can sleep and not be smart

adam · #18 04-04-2003, 06:21 PM

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Originally posted by Kinatt
Not in everything.. I mean you can sleep and not be smart

True, but I believe he was refering to scripting.