OHH a green gralat must touch *beeees ideot*

funnylinkwantsbomys · #1 04-20-2002, 08:50 AM

stop touching gralats on a green screen you dumbies...wait till the freaking level loaods even if you are lieing about green level

Echos · #2 04-20-2002, 08:53 AM

Levels I don't have load in about 0.5 secs

HVOstroHS · #3 04-20-2002, 08:57 AM

Check the little box that says "Don't connect levels" if you DO experience the green screen problems.. it helps.

toad1413 · #4 04-20-2002, 09:02 AM

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Originally posted by funnylinkwantsbomys
stop touching gralats on a green screen you dumbies...wait till the freaking level loaods even if you are lieing about green level

Impossible. If there's just a green screen, that means that the level hasn't even loaded yet. And the level loads before the npcs. So, if there is just a greel tiled level, then the npcs, including gralats, couldn't have loaded. Sorry.

Brad · #5 04-20-2002, 07:14 PM

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Originally posted by toad1413

Impossible. If there's just a green screen, that means that the level hasn't even loaded yet. And the level loads before the npcs. So, if there is just a greel tiled level, then the npcs, including gralats, couldn't have loaded. Sorry.

merlin:
i think thats local npcs though not npc server npcs

Correction · #6 04-20-2002, 07:20 PM

i'm completely lost wats going on here

Torankusu · #7 04-20-2002, 08:13 PM

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Originally posted by toad1413

Impossible. If there's just a green screen, that means that the level hasn't even loaded yet. And the level loads before the npcs. So, if there is just a greel tiled level, then the npcs, including gralats, couldn't have loaded. Sorry.

So, this is how it was for you, too?

This might be enough evidence to have Constinople banned again for touching the gralat.

Loriel · #8 04-21-2002, 03:07 PM

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Originally posted by toad1413
Impossible. If there's just a green screen, that means that the level hasn't even loaded yet. And the level loads before the npcs. So, if there is just a greel tiled level, then the npcs, including gralats, couldn't have loaded. Sorry.

Not so true. Yes, you don't see the NPCs, but your movement still gets send to the NPC Server. And the NPC Server checks if you touch ebil green gralats of banning.

toad1413 · #9 04-21-2002, 03:45 PM

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Originally posted by Loriel

Not so true. Yes, you don't see the NPCs, but your movement still gets send to the NPC Server. And the NPC Server checks if you touch ebil green gralats of banning.

Ok, I admit that I did not know the movement still got sent to the Server. Although, it would take time for the info of your movements to get there, and if there is an break in the info flow, and as such the levels are not loading because their info isn't getting to you, then it's a most probable guess that the movement info isn't getting tot he NPC Server, either.

Anyway, here goes once more!
The gralats are about 2x3 tiles in width/height respectively. now, the odds of hitting a 2x3 rectangle, on a 64x64 field, are quite hard. Unless you fluked it, because it was near the point you entered, you'd have to search at least, on average, half of the field. And, you'd have to do that in what, the whole 5 or so seconds that you usually get before the level loads, and dumps you back in the previous one again due to a timeout that gets automatically sent because of your lag?

It is kinda futile to keep arguing this with me, sorry. I can get past every one of your tries.
I KNOW this stuff. I lag. This is my world you're in.

Dilrod · #10 04-21-2002, 09:02 PM

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Originally posted by toad1413

It is kinda futile to keep arguing this with me, sorry. I can get past every one of your tries.
I KNOW this stuff. I lag. This is my world you're in.

haha

Mman · #11 04-21-2002, 09:07 PM

I guess the best thing to do in a green level is DON'T MOVE UNTIL THE LEVEL LOADS.

Correction · #12 04-21-2002, 09:37 PM

i'm still completely confused whats all these green gralets and funky levels and ebil banning monies and i'm scares save me

Googi · #13 04-22-2002, 12:03 AM

I think they should surround the gralats with an NPC wall, but that's just me.

toad1413 · #14 04-22-2002, 08:23 AM

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Originally posted by Googi
I think they should surround the gralats with an NPC wall, but that's just me.

And how would this NPC wall thing work?

ghostsamurai · #15 04-22-2002, 08:25 AM

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Originally posted by toad1413

And how would this NPC wall thing work?

DOT DOT DOT

Googi · #16 04-22-2002, 08:34 AM

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Originally posted by toad1413

And how would this NPC wall thing work?

Easy, just take tiles from pics1.png and turn them into graphics for the webgifs folder (so that you can make the wall without the level looking ugly), then put them around the gralat so that it will block you from touching the gralat if NPCs really DO load before the level, that way excuse = gone.

toad1413 · #17 04-22-2002, 08:56 AM

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Originally posted by Googi

Easy, just take tiles from pics1.png and turn them into graphics for the webgifs folder (so that you can make the wall without the level looking ugly), then put them around the gralat so that it will block you from touching the gralat if NPCs really DO load before the level, that way excuse = gone.

So you're saying that there should be blocking npcs around the gralat, so that you wouldn't be able to get to it normally?

Sorry, that won't work. The NPC server doesn't check your movements with the layout of the npcs, then if there's not a blocking one there, allows you to move. You'd still move over the tiles that were blocked, because the movement allocation would be there, just not the block, for the npc itself wouldn't have loaded yet.

So, all in all, that'd be a useless and annoying addition.

Mman · #18 04-22-2002, 06:50 PM

True, NPCs don't load until (and sometimes even after) the level loads. That's how I've been able to lag my way through a lot of UN and Npulse quests

toad1413 · #19 04-22-2002, 06:57 PM

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Originally posted by Mman
True, NPCs don't load until (and sometimes even after) the level loads. That's how I've been able to lag my way through a lot of UN and Npulse quests

Yeah, that usually works. Except when the people are smart enough to have a NPC warp you to the next part, instead of a level link, or the link won't work.

Neonight · #20 04-22-2002, 07:11 PM

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Originally posted by toad1413

Impossible. If there's just a green screen, that means that the level hasn't even loaded yet. And the level loads before the npcs. So, if there is just a greel tiled level, then the npcs, including gralats, couldn't have loaded. Sorry.

As much as I would have believed that before I was more NPC-smart, I don't right now. If you're on the server, (npcserver) can still check your x/y...

NPC Code:

#s(this.x) #s(this.y)

If Graal2001 has a NPC that checks x and y, (which I'm almost sure it does) then even while the level is loading, it can track you.

You could call (Npcserver) like the American government:
No matter where you are, it will track you down.

You know the npc "trace" around them all when they have no picture? That "frame" counts as the gif/png/mng, and even though you don't see it, it's there.