Loriel

[Warcaptain]

Im going to make this legal by putting it in improvements.

I think an improvement to graal would be to fire Loriel!

He is corrupt. Everyone knows it, only a few admins like him.
Hardly any players like him.

So tell us, do you think it'd be a good improvement to graal, if Loriel were fired?

[Zulithe]

Originally posted by Warcaptain
Im going to make this legal by putting it in improvements.

I think an improvement to graal would be to fire Loriel!

He is corrupt. Everyone knows it, only a few admins like him.
Hardly any players like him.

So tell us, do you think it'd be a good improvement to graal, if Loriel were fired?

Leave Loriel alone! I like him, and he's a good admin. Why not give us some good reasons why you think he should be removed?

[TDK_RC2]

well he did ban my jman9912 account for Credit Card Problems and i already payed the money off my CC so i wasted it and no one will unban it, i dont even kno him either i dont kno y he did it but stil...

[Zulithe]

Originally posted by TDK_RC2
well he did ban my jman9912 account for Credit Card Problems and i already payed the money off my CC so i wasted it and no one will unban it, i dont even kno him either i dont kno y he did it but stil...

If you think your account was banned wrongly, then try to find an accounts admin and speak to them about it.

[_0AfTeRsHoCk0_]

Zulithe, I probably never see you play Graal. You cannot make assumptions and jedgments about who is corrupt and who isn't if you haven't even seen what's going on.

[Zulithe]

Originally posted by _0AfTeRsHoCk0_
Zulithe, I probably never see you play Graal. You cannot make assumptions and jedgments about who is corrupt and who isn't if you haven't even seen what's going on.

Well I can't be there every moment, but I do play Graal, I've already played it a few hours this morning

[ZORG1986]

All staff are corrupt at times, but there is a differance between corruptness and fun, if you cant see that you should get a sense of humour. Graal is a game only people with no sense of humour and no life take it seriously 24/7 and comming from Warcaptain I do find it funny that he can insult any other staff for corruptness.

[Loriel]

Originally posted by TDK_RC2
well he did ban my jman9912 account for Credit Card Problems and i already payed the money off my CC so i wasted it and no one will unban it, i dont even kno him either i dont kno y he did it but stil...

Uh sorry, but Credit Card Problems are not my job! I NEVER banned anybody for CC stuff!!

[Fry]

I don't know why you guys think that Loriel is the bad boy and that he is destroying graal. He is the only on who is still doing anything for g2k1.

[psihunter]

Wheres the I dunno vote?
Or the He should lose just a little power?

[Warcaptain]

Originally posted by Fry
I don't know why you guys think that Loriel is the bad boy and that he is destroying graal. He is the only on who is still doing anything for g2k1.

you dont understand...

Loriel is the only G2K1 based admin!

Everyone else is Main server.

thats why it appears he is the only one working... cuz he is the only one allowed to work on it.

[Sir Triclops]

Me and Loriel talked quite a bit back when in Kharlia, and now "he doesn't even know me". To be honest, I now it seems as if I don't even know him. Maybe it's just that I don't want to know him anymore.

I've seen him abuse his power more than a few times. Who cares if it is fun for him and maybe a couple other guys, but is it a help to Graal? Not really. Just wasted space or time on the server. And you know it upsets more than a "few" people.

[6Burning6Church6]

Originally posted by Warcaptain
Im going to make this legal by putting it in improvements.

I think an improvement to graal would be to fire Loriel!

He is corrupt. Everyone knows it, only a few admins like him.
Hardly any players like him.

So tell us, do you think it'd be a good improvement to graal, if Loriel were fired?

You are the one who needs to IP banned from Graal. Now leave Loriel alone.

[smallballn13]

*votes 'No'*

[Sir Triclops]

Originally posted by 6Burning6Church6


You are the one who needs to IP banned from Graal. Now leave Loriel alone.

DarkLink, why does WC need to be IP banned?
Nobody said that Loriel should be IP banned.


And yes, why is Loriel allowed to make updates at will, have that kind of RC, and such?

I mean, sheesh, the guy threw posters all over the place to support his guild Graal Guard. I don't see anyone other guild throwing posters up to support them.

There are many other reasons as well, but come on, this is ridiculous.

[_0AfTeRsHoCk0_]

Originally posted by Sir Triclops


DarkLink, why does WC need to be IP banned?
Nobody said that Loriel should be IP banned.


And yes, why is Loriel allowed to make updates at will, have that kind of RC, and such?

I mean, sheesh, the guy threw posters all over the place to support his guild Graal Guard. I don't see anyone other guild throwing posters up to support them.

There are many other reasons as well, but come on, this is ridiculous.

That and he uses us as lab rats for his little NPC weapons. He goes around killing us to make sure the weapon works

And I know why everyone is sticking up for Loriel...

Scenario 1:
Loriel: "Hey you stuck up for me on the boards, good job!"
Ass kisser: "Thanks, let's be friends"
Weeks pass and sooner or later Loriel "slips" this suck up some extra cash or items

Scenario 2:
Same as scenario 1 except Loriel gets the ass kisser a job and eventually an RC, then FTP. Hola!

[Warcaptain]

Originally posted by _0AfTeRsHoCk0_

That and he uses us as lab rats for his little NPC weapons. He goes around killing us to make sure the weapon works

And I know why everyone is sticking up for Loriel...

Scenario 1:
Loriel: "Hey you stuck up for me on the boards, good job!"
Ass kisser: "Thanks, let's be friends"
Weeks pass and sooner or later Loriel "slips" this suck up some extra cash or items

Scenario 2:
Same as scenario 1 except Loriel gets the ass kisser a job and eventually an RC, then FTP. Hola!

exactly, if people had the balls to fight for what is right, maybe we wouldnt have corrupt admins.

Lycia was all nice and giving and stuff... then look at her now!

We underestimate our admins. And you are right, its not fair he can go post posters all over about his guild, and all other guilds get shi* to promote. his guild gets special npc's, we get nothing.


and he uses invinciblity so he cant be pked, and then gets into sparrs and kills people, then when he has to take it off, and gets pked, he jails that person (true story, he did it to me and zorro knows it)

And now he is hired for GM, this is pure corruption.

See, zorro and Nightlord are LUCKY to ahve their jobs, if it wasnt for contego is so nice, theyd be fired.

Cuz Unixmad offered contego GM job, and said hed fire NL and Zorro. And if anyone wants to say diff, ill show you the email!

I like zorro, he is nice and stuff, but he is only trying to get closer to stefan by hiring loriel for gm.. if this isnt corruption, i dont know what is!

[CloudStrife_2001]

Originally posted by Sir Triclops


DarkLink, why does WC need to be IP banned?
Nobody said that Loriel should be IP banned.


And yes, why is Loriel allowed to make updates at will, have that kind of RC, and such?

I mean, sheesh, the guy threw posters all over the place to support his guild Graal Guard. I don't see anyone other guild throwing posters up to support them.

There are many other reasons as well, but come on, this is ridiculous.

I am with Poizon, Loriel done many stupid thing, including Jailing me for not buying a house key from him, and such more.

[Loriel]

Originally posted by _0AfTeRsHoCk0_

That and he uses us as lab rats for his little NPC weapons. He goes around killing us to make sure the weapon works

And I know why everyone is sticking up for Loriel...

Scenario 1:
Loriel: "Hey you stuck up for me on the boards, good job!"
Ass kisser: "Thanks, let's be friends"
Weeks pass and sooner or later Loriel "slips" this suck up some extra cash or items

Scenario 2:
Same as scenario 1 except Loriel gets the ass kisser a job and eventually an RC, then FTP. Hola!

I have never ever given someone special items or money or jobs for supporting me. If you need to make up stuff to attack me, you should probably stop it.
And again, since you probably do not listen, I did not kill people with the Zal Rifle for no reason.

Originally posted by Warcaptain

exactly, if people had the balls to fight for what is right, maybe we wouldnt have corrupt admins.

Lycia was all nice and giving and stuff... then look at her now!

We underestimate our admins. And you are right, its not fair he can go post posters all over about his guild, and all other guilds get shi* to promote. his guild gets special npc's, we get nothing.


and he uses invinciblity so he cant be pked, and then gets into sparrs and kills people, then when he has to take it off, and gets pked, he jails that person (true story, he did it to me and zorro knows it)

And now he is hired for GM, this is pure corruption.

See, zorro and Nightlord are LUCKY to ahve their jobs, if it wasnt for contego is so nice, theyd be fired.

Cuz Unixmad offered contego GM job, and said hed fire NL and Zorro. And if anyone wants to say diff, ill show you the email!

I like zorro, he is nice and stuff, but he is only trying to get closer to stefan by hiring loriel for gm.. if this isnt corruption, i dont know what is!

1) Graal Guard is not my guild. It's a staff thing, kinda like Police or Events Team.
Did anybody ever complain about Events Team or Police getting special NPCs? Nah, it's just because I made it, it's bad.
2) I do NOT have invinciblity stuff (besides 100Ap if you count this), and never had (as far as I can remember), and do not plan to ever have. Again, making up stuff is not a good way to argue.
For the jailing if PKed thing, I warned you that I am busy and on duty and stuff, but you just don't listen.
3) I am not hired for GM. Geez.

Originally posted by CloudStrife_2001

I am with Poizon, Loriel done many stupid thing, including Jailing me for not buying a house key from him, and such more.

Nah, it was jailing you for buying a house key, getting room and stuff, but not paying.

[Faheria_LAT1]

Loriel, give it up, those guys just don't understand at all what's going on and are jealous of what you are allowed to do.

[_0AfTeRsHoCk0_]

Originally posted by Faheria_LAT1
Loriel, give it up, those guys just don't understand at all what's going on and are jealous of what you are allowed to do.

Oh no someone wants special favors from Loriel now

[konidias]

Warcaptain don't even get me started on you. You have been police for one day and already I have had to jail you while you were working for doing something stupid. People are human and make mistakes.

As I recall you let the account eev out of jail when I jailed him and you only had his word on why he was jailed. That was ridiculous, that's why you got 100 rocks to break. Loriel has helped me out countless times and I admit it does get annoying when he uses that damn rifle.. that is the only thing that peeves me is that stupid rifle.. I believe this is why all this anti-loriel stuff has started.. it pisses me to no end because even when you pause he can still shoot you up in the air so when you unpause you can't move for 10 seconds.

[Sir Triclops]

Originally posted by Loriel


1) Graal Guard is not my guild. It's a staff thing, kinda like Police or Events Team.
Did anybody ever complain about Events Team or Police getting special NPCs? Nah, it's just because I made it, it's bad.

So Graal Guard is a staff thing now. It wasn't when you started it. Now it is? Come on people, open your eyes. Do we need another "Police"like staff position. That's pathetic. You don't need special npc's, GGuard doesn't even need to be here. This is not only GGuard, this is for other staff positions as well. (ex. ART?)

[/QUOTE]
Nah, it was jailing you for buying a house key, getting room and stuff, but not paying. [/QUOTE]
So you jailed him for not paying rent? Take his key back. Other house owners can't jail people for not paying rent. Why should you be able to?


See people, even he admits to do things that are downright wrong and uncalled for. Isn't it about time you guys and gals open your eyes?

[TDK_RC2]

actually loriel u r kinda right i didnt think u woud either cuz ive talked to u before but like so many ppl told me it was u but i guess i can believe u

[Faheria_LAT1]

Originally posted by _0AfTeRsHoCk0_

Oh no someone wants special favors from Loriel now

Right, I don't play on Graal except for Faheria when there are new things. Get it through your head, you just made up everything since you are jealous.

[_0AfTeRsHoCk0_]

Originally posted by Faheria_LAT1

Right, I don't play on Graal except for Faheria when there are new things. Get it through your head, you just made up everything since you are jealous.

Let me tell you something. I come to Graal to play. I don't want an RC, nor do I want FTP. That totally ruins the whole game. You can get any item you want and that's the end of that. What fun is playing Graal then?

Another thing, I don't want to be classified as a corrupt person so the last thing I do is to become staff. Again, I'm not here to work, I'm here to play, end of story.

[Warcaptain]

Originally posted by Loriel


I have never ever given someone special items or money or jobs for supporting me. If you need to make up stuff to attack me, you should probably stop it.
And again, since you probably do not listen, I did not kill people with the Zal Rifle for no reason.




1) Graal Guard is not my guild. It's a staff thing, kinda like Police or Events Team.
Did anybody ever complain about Events Team or Police getting special NPCs? Nah, it's just because I made it, it's bad.
2) I do NOT have invinciblity stuff (besides 100Ap if you count this), and never had (as far as I can remember), and do not plan to ever have. Again, making up stuff is not a good way to argue.
For the jailing if PKed thing, I warned you that I am busy and on duty and stuff, but you just don't listen.
3) I am not hired for GM. Geez.



Nah, it was jailing you for buying a house key, getting room and stuff, but not paying.

um loriel, your ap was blue, and i hit you with my sword and you laughed.

then you were suspended, but got bailed out.

[Warcaptain]

ok, now here is the clincher.....during costumes, the costume npc says 'dont use staff tags or you will be jailed'so when people added staff tags, i jailed them.then loriel gets mad when i jail his friend or something, so he removes my police tag and unjails everyone i jailed.

if im not mistaking, he should be in jail now for unjailing my prisoners. as that was my punishment.

then now, birdbird_0 and him are warping me right in the middle of the battles on the coast, so i get pked and lose my money.

this is POWER ABUSE.

stefan i demand action to be taken, this is the SECOND time he has abused his power, he was let off hte first, now he needs to have action taken.

and now banned for:

"very very often repeatedly harrasing me. harrasing other players. for no obvious reason. creating false rumors."

what about him removing my tag, jailing me for no reason after sparring him and winning. and what rumors? what harrsament? it was stated in the NPC not to use fake staff tags or you would be jailed, I DID MY JOB, sorry if he cant do his

and now he changed it to

Troublemaking -Loriel


to cover his butt.

[6Burning6Church6]

Originally posted by Warcaptain
ok, now here is the clincher.....during costumes, the costume npc says 'dont use staff tags or you will be jailed'so when people added staff tags, i jailed them.then loriel gets mad when i jail his friend or something, so he removes my police tag and unjails everyone i jailed.

if im not mistaking, he should be in jail now for unjailing my prisoners. as that was my punishment.

then now, birdbird_0 and him are warping me right in the middle of the battles on the coast, so i get pked and lose my money.

this is POWER ABUSE.

stefan i demand action to be taken, this is the SECOND time he has abused his power, he was let off hte first, now he needs to have action taken.

and now banned for:

"very very often repeatedly harrasing me. harrasing other players. for no obvious reason. creating false rumors."

what about him removing my tag, jailing me for no reason after sparring him and winning. and what rumors? what harrsament? it was stated in the NPC not to use fake staff tags or you would be jailed, I DID MY JOB, sorry if he cant do his

and now he changed it to

Troublemaking -Loriel


to cover his butt.

Warcaptain was police? Aren't you the one who's site got hacked?

Oh my god, I am really with Loriel since he "fired" you.

Even if you weren't Police, I still think Loriel was nice to me... Even through I thought he was a girl at first

Anyway, why do we have to do this anti ****? It is all immature, now can we all please remove those stupid little buttons that say "ANTI-LORIEL" and **** like that.

Lycia was nice to me too, but then she called me a ***** out of the blue.

Anyway, this thread should be deleted because it's .

Now all of you goto your mommy, and tell her you love her.

[freddyfox]

WOULD YOU PLEASE KINDLY STOP MAKING SO MANY STUPID THREADS ABOUT LORIEL SHOULD BE FIRED I REALLY HATE THIS