Stop it with the damn light effects

LordAzeroth · #1 08-15-2001, 04:27 PM

I went to a friends house, loaded Graal on his computer and saw the lighting effects.

TERRIBLE!

They're everywhere, and half of them don't even make sense.

You have a patch of grass that lets off green neon light,
the underground cave is pretty ugly itself with all those light effects.

Stop over using them, it looks like a newbies quake 2 map (I suggest you look at cranky steve on something awful).

I felt like jabbing my eyes out with a sharp object.

View GraalOnline Profile · #2 08-15-2001, 04:35 PM

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Originally posted by LordAzeroth
I went to a friends house, loaded Graal on his computer and saw the lighting effects.

TERRIBLE!

They're everywhere, and half of them don't even make sense.

You have a patch of grass that lets off green neon light,
the underground cave is pretty ugly itself with all those light effects.

Stop over using them, it looks like a newbies quake 2 map (I suggest you look at cranky steve on something awful).

I felt like jabbing my eyes out with a sharp object.

Yes master Tyne. We will stop.

Birdbird_0 · #3 08-15-2001, 04:35 PM

=/ the lake was the first time I ever used lights, oh well, Im not using them like that ever agian, I dont use them alot any more, NO FEAR

LordAzeroth · #4 08-15-2001, 04:35 PM

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Originally posted by ZanderX

Yes master Tyne. We will stop.

Thank you.

Birdbird_0 · #5 08-15-2001, 04:38 PM

VIVA LA REVOLUSHION

Admins · #6 08-15-2001, 04:43 PM

Arg the lights look very good, it makes
levels look more professional

wetferret1 · #7 08-15-2001, 04:55 PM

OMG!! I love the lights!!! How can I become a LAT (Level Maker) Because I love to do it! I am not bad! it's just my NPC Scripting is not that good!

Evolve · #8 08-15-2001, 05:58 PM

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Originally posted by Stefan
Arg the lights look very good, it makes
levels look more professional

They still look stupid

toad1413 · #9 08-15-2001, 06:02 PM

NO!! The lights are good! All hail the holy lights!! I am a good level maker btw.

SkooL · #10 08-15-2001, 06:03 PM

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Originally posted by toad1413
NO!! The lights are good! All hail the holy lights!! I am a good level maker btw.

I saw what you made for "Sagaquira". It wasn't that great.

Evolve · #11 08-15-2001, 06:03 PM

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Fai · #12 08-15-2001, 06:09 PM

The light effects look great. I like them.

toad1413 · #13 08-15-2001, 06:27 PM

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Originally posted by SkooL
I saw what you made for "Sagaquira". It wasn't that great.

Note: They were made about a month ago. I'm better now.
Also note: I must be good, otherwise iSplash wouldn't have hired me for ToT.
And finally, note: I'm still better than you.

Thank you and pleasefallofftheworld.

Cloud_X · #14 08-15-2001, 07:15 PM

I used to use them but, It lagged me too much because graal doesnt have voodoo support they kinda hurt my eyes. (not making fun of them they were just so many and they were very bright)

ownerofbabylon · #15 08-15-2001, 09:28 PM

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Originally posted by Cloud_X
I used to use them but, It lagged me too much because graal doesnt have voodoo support they kinda hurt my eyes. (not making fun of them they were just so many and they were very bright)

yea i got voodoo3 3000 and it lags me so bad!

Fai · #16 08-15-2001, 09:30 PM

It should get darker at night. the night/day is pointless unless it makes sense.

ownerofbabylon · #17 08-15-2001, 09:32 PM

yea, all it is is a stupid time thing. it would be cool if it showed darker backpals as night progressed and maybe even birds went away and bats came out

ownerofbabylon · #18 08-15-2001, 09:34 PM

And even some kind of evil creatures came out during the night like wolves. And they stayed in the darkness. The cities like Bomboria were well lit but the wolves lurked outside in the shadows ^_^

Rekad · #19 08-15-2001, 11:16 PM

someone should make a flare spell that blinds everyone with good computers by making hundreds of lighting effects on one level and they would stay for like a minute, that would be cool.

ownerofbabylon · #20 08-15-2001, 11:24 PM

and it flashes so fast it makes us all seizure

Rekad · #21 08-15-2001, 11:30 PM

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Originally posted by ownerofbabylon
and it flashes so fast it makes us all seizure

excpet for the smart people like me and tyne that dont see them.

TrueHeaT · #22 08-15-2001, 11:33 PM

i really like the lighting effects

Jerom · #23 08-15-2001, 11:56 PM

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Originally posted by Stefan
Arg the lights look very good, it makes
levels look more professional

Yeah, but when you use them in every other place on the level, it looks tacky and not pretty.
I guess you could think of it as cluttering the level with too much of the same thing.
Perhaps more light effect images need to be made other than light2.png. Perhaps we could have a few fog light effects around some of the mountainous areas of Graal that use light effects(to give the fog a transparent white fog look).
Then there's the possibility of transparent water. Just make an animated image which is able to use light effects, then make it blue and about 70% transparent. This would be a great idea for shallow water swimming, swimming pools, etc.

IceHawk · #24 08-16-2001, 12:13 AM

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Originally posted by Rekad
someone should make a flare spell that blinds everyone with good computers by making hundreds of lighting effects on one level and they would stay for like a minute, that would be cool.

Loriel made a NPC as a joke that made you display over 1000 light effects, crashed graal for me. He thought it was hilarious.

LilNiglet · #25 08-16-2001, 12:19 AM

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Originally posted by Stefan
Arg the lights look very good, it makes
levels look more professional

HUZZAH

FatherDante · #26 08-16-2001, 12:38 AM

I already said this before. Light effects do indeed look professional, but using any NPC graphic over and over again, light effect or not, looks un-professional.

So, light effects should contribute to the ambience, not just make the level look like a christmas tree.

Jerom · #27 08-16-2001, 12:40 AM

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Originally posted by FatherDante
I already said this before. Light effects do indeed look professional, but using any NPC graphic over and over again, light effect or not, looks un-professional.

So, light effects should contribute to the ambience, not just make the level look like a christmas tree.

yes, but when Christmass comes along...they will need to look like a christmass tree =)
Someone better prepare for a big snow tile replacement or something to we can have christmass trees to decorate with lanterns(keep in mind in the old days of Graal we didn't have electricity and light bulbs).

FatherDante · #28 08-16-2001, 12:42 AM

Graphics team ought to make it. Put up christmas tree tiles and fill it with color effects... what a charming idea.

Jerom · #29 08-16-2001, 12:45 AM

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Originally posted by FatherDante
Graphics team ought to make it. Put up christmas tree tiles and fill it with color effects... what a charming idea.

and you KNOW that Stefan will have to add ice to the coastal areas, freeze over the area around Jinn Island, expand a pond somewhere so we can have a frozen over lake to skate on, not to mension we have to have a big hill of some sort so we can go sled riding.
Then Santa(Stefan), will have to warpto through your playerhouse chiminy(sp?) and drop a present for the owner(not gralat, something special).

SaiyanSaviour · #30 08-16-2001, 04:41 AM

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Originally posted by Jerom

and you KNOW that Stefan will have to add ice to the coastal areas, freeze over the area around Jinn Island, expand a pond somewhere so we can have a frozen over lake to skate on, not to mension we have to have a big hill of some sort so we can go sled riding.
Then Santa(Stefan), will have to warpto through your playerhouse chiminy(sp?) and drop a present for the owner(not gralat, something special).

Sounds tacky, I like it!

RawPower · #31 08-16-2001, 04:44 AM

Lighting effects make the level look like an industrial wasteland.

Jerom · #32 08-16-2001, 04:50 AM

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Originally posted by RawPower
Lighting effects look the level look like an industrial wasteland.

yay I'm on your ***** list!!!
weee!!
(this post was meaningless and I already pointed out my opinions previously in this thread)

RawPower · #33 08-16-2001, 04:54 AM

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Originally posted by Jerom

yay I'm on your ***** list!!!
weee!!
(this post was meaningless and I already pointed out my opinions previously in this thread)

Yes thats something to be proud of...

Jerom · #34 08-16-2001, 04:55 AM

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Originally posted by RawPower

Yes thats something to be proud of...

Well some people in this world are proud for having the biggest rubber band ball, so why not be proud to be on someone's ***** list?

evilive · #35 08-16-2001, 04:58 AM

I like the lights

Here's an example as to why........

Jerom · #36 08-16-2001, 05:02 AM

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Originally posted by evilive
I like the lights

Here's an example as to why........

That was one of the good uses for the light effects.
Although some people plaster and paste them all over thier levels.

evilive · #37 08-16-2001, 05:03 AM

At least someone likes my lights

Jerom · #38 08-16-2001, 05:06 AM

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Originally posted by evilive
At least someone likes my lights

What would be really cool, would be if you could add lava pits, and at the bottom of the pits you could have molten rocks jumping out of them with red light effects =)

evilive · #39 08-16-2001, 05:09 AM

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Originally posted by Jerom

What would be really cool, would be if you could add lava pits, and at the bottom of the pits you could have molten rocks jumping out of them with red light effects =)

That my friend, I can do, now that I can script

I scripted some moving lights and scrap and now I think I can do anything! BWHAHAHAHA lol Except for making large scripts....

I can make something that moves... and hopefully I can script some turties after I get better... But rightnow, I need Klye's help...Well, maybe I should wait until I get home because this computer doesn't have a good graphics editing program....

Jerom · #40 08-16-2001, 05:10 AM

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Originally posted by evilive

That my friend, I can do, now that I can script I scripted some moving lights and scrap and now I think I can do anything! BWHAHAHAHA lol Except for making large scripts....

I can make something that moves... and hopefully I can script some turties after I get better... But rightnow, I need Klye's help...Well, maybe I should wait until I get home because this computer doesn't have a good graphics editing program....

use the JF firesnake image, then adjust it to have 4 layers(for the light effect) around it. Maybe you could also resize it if you felt the need to.